Rebel vs Evo vs Vegas which would you choose & why

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doc jans
doc jans
VIC
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VIC, 70 posts
11 Jan 2010 11:18am
I am in the market for a 2010 9m kite. I currently have a 12m rebel 2008.

I can't decide between the others... so I would like opinions...

I like freeride, big pops, EASY RELAUNCH, kite loops, wave etc...

whatchareckon???
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
11 Jan 2010 10:19am
get a Rebel 2010, you can't go wrong!
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
11 Jan 2010 9:28am
ok for big pop and kiteloops you would definatly want the vegas..

The rebel cant loop at all and really isnt good unhooked. But for big boosts and easy relaunch and good freeride then the rebel is what you want.

I personally dont really like the evo i find the bar pressure to heavy and it pulls to hard i really find it hard to edge properally and jump.. but thats just personal preference i know other guys that swear by it

so its totally up to you for what u consider the most important aspects.. I went with the vegas cus i like the looping and unhooking, My two cents :)
pro merc
pro merc
NSW
300 posts
NSW, 300 posts
11 Jan 2010 12:44pm
i found the 12m rebel nice for un hooking but its too big a kite for me to loop (i weight 75kg's and my biggest kite is usually a 10m). heaps of pop as well.

the evo has slighly more bar pressure, not so good for un hooking but punishing for loops. the 9m is super powerful for its size!
simonp
simonp
216 posts
216 posts
11 Jan 2010 9:44am
I saw a Fuse the other day. It looks like a four line Rebel with a bridle but it is supposedly subtly different. More of a ring rather than a pulley and the safety system looks similar to the Cabrinha IDS.

The Evo does everything pretty well but it does pull really hard when unhooked.

Simon
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
11 Jan 2010 11:49am
None of the above......
rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
11 Jan 2010 12:19pm
simonp said...

I saw a Fuse the other day. It looks like a four line Rebel with a bridle but it is supposedly subtly different. More of a ring rather than a pulley and the safety system looks similar to the Cabrinha IDS.

The Evo does everything pretty well but it does pull really hard when unhooked.

Simon


i have a fuse they are a little different to the rebel but have a much longer hang time, had a 2010 rebel .....why because they work and have allways been good to me 4/5 seasons with north now no problems
Phezulu1
Phezulu1
WA
66 posts
WA, 66 posts
11 Jan 2010 1:50pm
Hi

I have 2008 Vegas (excellent kite), a 2009 Rebel 8 and a 2010 Evo 9. The Vegas was my favourite, but I think the evo is my new favourite, it has huge bottom end, great boost and very powerful. It's also pretty much stall proof, just sheet and go, and it stays where you put it and doesn't wander. Having said that though, it is closer to the Vegas than it is to the Rebel (it's very c-shaped), it pulls hard and needs to be edged properly to jump. If you grew up on c kites, you'll like the Evo. If you learnt on bows and hydrids, you'll like the Rebel
BrisKites
BrisKites
QLD
1293 posts
QLD, 1293 posts
11 Jan 2010 11:19pm
h20fly said...


I personally dont really like the evo i find the bar pressure to heavy and it pulls to hard i really find it hard to edge properally and jump.. but thats just personal preference i know other guys that swear by it




You will find the 2010 bar pressure is a fair bit lighter than previous years.
doc jans
doc jans
VIC
70 posts
VIC, 70 posts
12 Jan 2010 2:03am
I heard with the Rebel 2010 that the floating centre strut can be damaged rather easily if it goes under a wave... any comments on this issue?

Can anyone comment on the ease of relaunch on the Vegas? Do you have to pull on the 5th line to relaunch or is it as simple as pulling on the bar like the rebel?

I had a Nobile 666 NHP 9m before and i found pulling on the 5th line to relaunch a sketchy situation, pull too much and it flips on itself and twists.. this happened to me recently and I had to self rescue when i was 800m offshore with cross offshore conditions. NOT FUN.

Bigwavedave: what would you recommend? I would like to get a kite with 5 lines as I currently have a north bar.

Briskites: whats your opinion on the EVO?

Too many choices... grrr... (1st world problem, 3rd world problem = no choices, i prefer my problems...)
doc jans
doc jans
VIC
70 posts
VIC, 70 posts
12 Jan 2010 2:04am
PS thanks for the replies people!
doc jans
doc jans
VIC
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VIC, 70 posts
17 Jan 2010 3:02am
anyone? cheers
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
18 Jan 2010 11:44am
doc jans said...

I heard with the Rebel 2010 that the floating centre strut can be damaged rather easily if it goes under a wave... any comments on this issue?

Can anyone comment on the ease of relaunch on the Vegas? Do you have to pull on the 5th line to relaunch or is it as simple as pulling on the bar like the rebel?

I had a Nobile 666 NHP 9m before and i found pulling on the 5th line to relaunch a sketchy situation, pull too much and it flips on itself and twists.. this happened to me recently and I had to self rescue when i was 800m offshore with cross offshore conditions. NOT FUN.

Bigwavedave: what would you recommend? I would like to get a kite with 5 lines as I currently have a north bar.

Briskites: whats your opinion on the EVO?

Too many choices... grrr... (1st world problem, 3rd world problem = no choices, i prefer my problems...)


G'day,

I had my Rebel 2010 rolled by a big one while on holidays in Vietnam, looked like a scrunched up piece of tissue that disappeared under the white water, then as luck would have it, it popped up, unfolded, then relauched. No problem with the middle strut. A friend (on a 2010rebel) did just about the same thing the same day and no problems what so ever, again, did the scrunched up tissue at the end of the lines thing, with full recovery at the end of the ordeal. Luck maybe but I don't think the floating strut will be a problem.

cheers,

Robert.
Rooboy
Rooboy
SA
298 posts
SA, 298 posts
18 Jan 2010 6:14pm
I borrow a demo of the 2010 Rebel 12m and 2010 EVO 12m from my local shop a few months back and rode them back to back a few times. Ive riden North Rebels and Rhinos now for the past 3 or 4 seasons and found the Evo a lot better for unhooking than the Rebel. I found when the wind was borderline for unhooking i was being yanked down wind by the rebel and was often out of control where as the Evo just made it quite comfortable and easy.
I did have trouble with jumping on the Evo tho. Didnt seem to get the vertical lift im used to on the Rebel and Rhino. It had huge hang time but just seemed to float down wind. The 2010 Rebel on the other hand had that great vertical lift im used too.
Found the Rebel really grunty and diving the kite gave instant power where as the Evo had to be dived a few times to generate enough apparent wind to get up and riding but once u were up the power was very smooth and comfortable.
Out of the 2 the Evo was my favourite and probably would have upgraded if it had had the vertical lift of the Rebel or Rhinos. Hopefully that helps somewhat, but is just my observations and opinion.
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