Ronix One and Frank boot

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natemarshall
natemarshall
WA
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WA, 93 posts
23 Sep 2012 4:01pm
what is the difference between these 2 boots? flex and comfort wise.
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
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QLD, 1855 posts
23 Sep 2012 8:10pm
The Frank is the better and more rigid boot for kiting compared the the One.
The Ronix One is softer than the Frank.

The Ronix One will only last a season in ocean/ intensive kiteboarding use.
North and Ronix brought out the NKB Frank boot specific for kiteboarding where they use different material that is more durable.

http://intheloopkiteboarding.myshopify.com/collections/bindings/products/north-frank-boot

Also Liquid Force have a specific kiteboarding boots line and they are niceee!
Their 2013 kite bindings range will be available in a few days!!

natemarshall
natemarshall
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
23 Sep 2012 9:42pm
cheers mate
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
24 Sep 2012 6:28am
Has something changed with the Frank because it used to be promoted as the "one" on a budget ie same flex characteristics. I have the 2011 Franks and was thinking of getting Ones this year. I won't be if they're softer flex
Troyrotor
Troyrotor
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
24 Sep 2012 8:45am
My interpretation is that the one is the second stiffest boot behind the cell, the franks are really light weight as use gauze type material on the sides so water flows out easier.

My friend has a team series with 2011 franks and it is ridiculously light.
Although the north franks don't use the gauze. And I'm not sure if they are heat mould able. The price says they arnt otherwise I can't see the point in buying a more expensive boot?

I ride ones and have been for quite a while now with no sign of them breaking soon. I went through a pair of open toe Kai's before that which were covered by warrenty.
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
24 Sep 2012 7:57am
If you're in Perth stop into liquid elements in Bently. You can try the entire Ronix, LF, slingshot, hyperlyte... range and figure out what's best for you.

Reviews are good but boots aren't cheap so try, try, try if possible.

I ride LF Ultras and found them to be the right flex/support for me.
ewan kite
ewan kite
VIC
928 posts
VIC, 928 posts
24 Sep 2012 12:29pm
yer marve im pretty sure the one is stiffer than the frank and made to last better as its the top of the line ronix boot. The frank is cheaper and lighter. Id go the one if you were looking any boot!
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
24 Sep 2012 1:15pm
Whenever people talk boots the Ronix one always gets a mention. Says something doesn't it?! Frank has more flex than one. Get the one. You won't regret it
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
QLD, 1855 posts
24 Sep 2012 3:11pm
ewan kite said...

yer marve im pretty sure the one is stiffer than the frank and made to last better as its the top of the line ronix boot. The frank is cheaper and lighter. Id go the one if you were looking any boot!


from experience over past 2 seasons i can tell you the Franks last longer and are cheaper too. The Ones are more comfy and give you more support with nicer materials build in.
After a bit of use they are def stiffer than the Ones id say.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny
WA
1089 posts
WA, 1089 posts
24 Sep 2012 1:37pm
Is it possible to get step in bindings for boots? (Like snowboard bindings)
So the boots stay on your feet and you can walk around.
I have a foot injury I really dont want to aggravate.
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
24 Sep 2012 4:46pm
^^^^

Yes. Not sure what brand though
Troyrotor
Troyrotor
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
24 Sep 2012 7:12pm
Hyperlite the system. Snowboard style.
There are other boots with removable liners too, that stay on your foot
stitchedup
stitchedup
WA
32 posts
WA, 32 posts
24 Sep 2012 5:58pm
rod_bunny said...

Is it possible to get step in bindings for boots? (Like snowboard bindings)
So the boots stay on your feet and you can walk around.
I have a foot injury I really dont want to aggravate.



Rod,

Slingshot RADS have the 2 part slip on boot system. They are the comfiest boots i have ever used. They fit unbelievably snug. These boots tend not to loosen off as you ride, so you dont spend your whole session retightening them. Being slip ons they are super practical when you have to walk across rocky, gravelly and sharp ground to get to the water.
However they are quite weighty (2.2kg as compared to Franks 1.6kg i think), and i dont think they were intended for salt water use. The thin laces of mine hardened and snapped after a season and a bit. Keep in mind I should of washed them down with fresh water after every use which didnt happen. Slingshot aus had great service and sent me out a heap of new laces for free. 2 of the washers behind the laces mount started to rust out and stain the boots. I replaced these and was going to sell them but couldnt bring myself to. I still use them now and are washed in fresh water after every use. The inner boots lining material has started to come off from the boot a littlebut it doesnt effect performance or comfort. A few minor changes and they could be unreal.

Chris
WA Surf
WA Surf
WA
336 posts
WA, 336 posts
24 Sep 2012 6:06pm
stitchedup said...
Being slip ons they are super practical when you have to walk across rocky, gravelly and sharp ground to get to the water.


Chris


Not to mention amazingly fashionable, they just complete the whole kite shorts look on the beach, right Chris?
stitchedup
stitchedup
WA
32 posts
WA, 32 posts
24 Sep 2012 6:27pm
WA Surf said...

stitchedup said...
Being slip ons they are super practical when you have to walk across rocky, gravelly and sharp ground to get to the water.


Chris


Not to mention amazingly fashionable, they just complete the whole kite shorts look on the beach, right Chris?


Bring kite pants back!
likuid
likuid
QLD
330 posts
QLD, 330 posts
26 Sep 2012 12:57pm
as marv said.

franks have slightly more flex which makes them a better cross-over for kiting and cable & rails but still just as sic behind the boat. not to mention weigh practically nothing!

ones are slighty more support, less flex


both are heat mold-able to your foot.
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
26 Sep 2012 4:41pm
stitchedup said...

rod_bunny said...

Is it possible to get step in bindings for boots? (Like snowboard bindings)
So the boots stay on your feet and you can walk around.
I have a foot injury I really dont want to aggravate.



Rod,

Slingshot RADS have the 2 part slip on boot system. They are the comfiest boots i have ever used. They fit unbelievably snug. These boots tend not to loosen off as you ride, so you dont spend your whole session retightening them. Being slip ons they are super practical when you have to walk across rocky, gravelly and sharp ground to get to the water.
However they are quite weighty (2.2kg as compared to Franks 1.6kg i think), and i dont think they were intended for salt water use. The thin laces of mine hardened and snapped after a season and a bit. Keep in mind I should of washed them down with fresh water after every use which didnt happen. Slingshot aus had great service and sent me out a heap of new laces for free. 2 of the washers behind the laces mount started to rust out and stain the boots. I replaced these and was going to sell them but couldnt bring myself to. I still use them now and are washed in fresh water after every use. The inner boots lining material has started to come off from the boot a littlebut it doesnt effect performance or comfort. A few minor changes and they could be unreal.

Chris


+1 for SS RAD's ...and you can heat mould them
Transition_Surf
Transition_Surf
SA
286 posts
SA, 286 posts
26 Sep 2012 9:47pm
ewan kite said...

yer marve im pretty sure the one is stiffer than the frank and made to last better as its the top of the line ronix boot. The frank is cheaper and lighter. Id go the one if you were looking any boot!


Spot on Ewan!
rod_bunny
rod_bunny
WA
1089 posts
WA, 1089 posts
4 Oct 2012 9:01am
SSD Rads looks like they might be a worth a try...

and at $269 the CFO just gave me the go ahead!
http://ride.slingshotsports.com/2012-RAD?sc=46&category=36750

no, wait... thats the US site...

www.slingshotsports.com.au/Wake/.aspx?productid=16012
$455 over here...


Obviously using a different exchange rate to me.
www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=270&From=USD&To=AUD


No boots for me
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
5 Oct 2012 10:54am
hahahaha again SB - just awesome.

SS Rad is the biggest piece of sh!t boot you could buy. If you don't believe me buy it and find out.

Frank and one are similar. Franks are just made a little lighter and cheaper and don't have the same quality footbed as the One. Franks are also a little bit more flexy. Personally I wouldn't buy them, but some people like more flex. I find that the any Ronix boot is floppy as sh!t in no time so I stick to the Ones or Cells, which in my honest opinion are not noticeably different to each other (in flex) and if anything my last pair of Ones felt stiffer than my last pair of Cells... Go figure.

Other boots you could get are LF Watsons or, the Double Up range is pretty nice and goes for a good price.
sci
sci
WA
762 posts
sci sci
WA, 762 posts
5 Oct 2012 11:19am
I have been riding boots full time since January

I went with the Ronix Ones and was very happy with them. Top of the line boot and integrated seamlessly with my 136cm North Gambler.

I recently purchased the North Ronix Frank Edition and I am equally happy.

The major difference between the two is aesthetic and design. The one is a little more luxury, padding and has some sweet detailing especially the 2012 model.

The North Ronix 2012 Franks came ready to fit onto the track system and is a very tight package all up.

So far the Franks are very comfy, well built and go well.

You will see a lot of the pro riders opting for Ronix which may give you some hints.

I think which ever you choose you will be more than satisfied.

Now that I have both the ones and franks I have some options.

Enjoy

Here is a short video I made which shows my migration from straps to boots.

stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
5 Oct 2012 1:36pm
maybe it's the graphics but that board looks like it has zero rocker. is it made for boots?
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
5 Oct 2012 1:43pm
sir ROWDY said...
hahahaha again SB - just awesome.

SS Rad is the biggest piece of sh!t boot you could buy. If you don't believe me buy it and find out.



You're not being very helpful there dude.

I'd like to know why the RAD would be the biggest piece of sh!t you could buy. They're fairly stiff, super light, the most comfortable boot I have tried and the easiest to get in and out. So it ticks my boxes.

Maybe not as good as the Cell but certainly up there with the top boots IMO.
If you look around in the wakeboarding scene you'll find heaps of people that love them. Is there anything in particular that is absolute sh!t about them?
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
6 Oct 2012 1:13pm
Where to start?

1. Price - Why pay more for a boot that is so much worse than competitors?

2. Boot is far to stiff - I love stiff boots (Watson, Cell) but this boot is on a whole nother level, it actually makes riding uncomfortable. Excessive pressure points and a feeling that if you crash your legs will break.

3. Padding - where is it? there is none. Lack of padding only worsens the "pressure point" problem and just makes the boot uncomfortable.

4. Bad fit - The boot fits terribly. It fits the length of your foot fine but the excessive room around your whole foot is just a joke. Ronix fits like a sports trainer, SS RAD fits like a gumboot a size to big. (could be an alright boot if you have a monstrous club foot).

5. Footbed - No padding, bottom out if landing hot.

I could go on but I don't really see the point. If you don't believe me just go ask some other non SS sponsored people that have had or tried the boot and you will get the exact same testament.

For the record SS once made a good boot, it was the D2 and the fact it was good was partly due to the use of "intuition liners" which they now cannot use due to Ronix have sole use of the patent for use in wakeboots.
SS boots relied heavily on that liner in my opinion to make it work properly for the way it was designed, now without intuition they suck. Perfect example was the D2 to D3... If you wore the D3 with the normal liner it sucked. If you put the D2 liner in the D3 it was pretty good.

Not to mention the whole taking the boot out of the boot idea is totally stupid, almost on par with Hyperlites new "system" binding technology. SS should let it go.

p.s.
SS's new girls bindings (2013 Jewel) actually look pretty good and the design looks solid. No inner boot just a normal low profile lace up design. Obviously I can't try them but I know girls that say they fit pretty well.
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
6 Oct 2012 9:16pm
Fair enough, but most of you points are personal preference.

Price - got mates
Stiffness, I'm an average kiter and I like it so far.
Padding, enough for me but it is on the lower side.
Fit suits me perfect got them a size smaller an they fit snug and I have fairly normal feet. Although there is room to move the toes up and some may not like that.
Inside boot is no problem at all, I guess it needs one because it's a bottomless boot. Saves in weight and it helps with drying so they smell less.
Pressure point, can't feel any so far, the boots are actually very comfortable even after a couple of hours.

As with anything, what suits one may not suite another.
So no, your argument's didn't convince me that they are the biggest piece of sh!t.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
6 Oct 2012 9:47pm
Of course all of my points are personal preference as it was my review of the binding...

I wasn't trying or needing to convince you, you asked me "why?", and I told you.

As always, most any boot will work, some however are better than others. I could ride the R.A.D. if I had to, but I don't as there are superior options.

You are also right that the R.A.D. may in-fact suit other peoples foot better than my own.
(However, I would say my foot is of average shape and size and the fact that the majority of people I know that have tried the boot feel the same way as me, leads me to believe it doesn't fit the norm well.)

Obviously you are free to do as you will with my advice, I'm just trying to help people out.

p.s.
I suggest to anyone to try before you buy boots (like anything).
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