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Originally posted by dachopper
"Steve" I don't even know what the shop in Erina is called or know any1 there or have been to it, and I assumed the guy wans't lying about being told by them to not bother about a safety leash because of the massive depower on his kite.
Look I think it sucks that some bow kites did not come with a leash, but anyone who bought one from me got one chucked in.
It is not absolutely necessary, provided the person who is using the kites is aware of the downside.
You could have just called the shop in Erina instead of making assumptions and posting them on here.
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I don't have an agenda, I'm raising a serious safety issue, about a careless shop who accidentally or not told a newby not to bother about a safety system...
This is where your "story" gets all flaky again mate, you said he had been kiting for 18 months (see your own post below), thats not a newby???
Who's responsibility is it to make sure they understand the safety system on their kite?
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as soon as I mention bows you are the one who sticks his hand up with " it wasn't fully depowered",
Simple fact, you described the incident, you said he still had his hands on the bar, then you tried to say a lot of other silly things about other types of leashes or kites being safer in this incredibly dodgy "secret" spot.
The fact is that he was safest in this spot on the kite he was on, he just did not know how to use it properly.
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i think if i was getting lofted over land and i have been, on ANY kite the last thing i would ever do would be to punch the bar away so i now have no steering and drop out of the sky like a brick with what ever speed the kite last imparted on me, and snap my legs or worse
The guy did not get lofted more than a metre you said, he is hardly going to snap his legs from that height, he was unfamiliar with the kite, it would have stopped pulling if he had stopped pulling on the bar.
I have been lofted on land and paid a hefty price too, but I wish I had a bow style kite because if I did I would have none of my injuries. If you had a bow kite you would probably never have been lofted either.
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Car dealers never sell cars with air bags or brakes that don't work?, same as kite retailers shouldn't sell kites that are fitted for not with a safety line,It sends the wrong message out to all the new users of these kites who think it doesn't come with it so i mustn't need it which is probably what stopped the dude from realising how important it was. I'm sure you do a good job selling kites with safety lines at your shop wherever that is,. this post was ment to send a message to the ppl from erina who think a safety line is a waste of time with the proof of what happens when you have no option...
Car dealers do sell cars without airbags.
Car dealers do sell cars without having to be responsible for their safe operation.
Kite retailers are no different, but obviously it is in everyones and the sport interests if they have a sustainable and caring attitude.
Otherwise whose responsibility it is just gets silly and drags in the kite manufacturers, the inventors, importer distributors, etc.
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and yeah the spot we were at wasn't a beginner spot, he had 18 months or so of kiting, remember this isn't about the kite he was flying at all or the spot choice as the title says, it's about the leash that he never got and the bad advice that he did get. so that others don't get diddled aswell.
After all your "explanations", "refusals to disclose" and "disclaimers" its hard to see what the point of the post was except to have a bash at that shop and bow kites generally.
Cya and
Goodwinds
Steve McCormack
