SLE/HYBRID self launch

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Jamin
Jamin
QLD
22 posts
QLD, 22 posts
8 Nov 2006 4:05pm
Hi all. I need help on how to self launch and land an SLE kite. I don't know if it's the same as for C kites.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
8 Nov 2006 4:19pm
hey jamin, do a topic search, its been covered heaps in the last few weeks. i think most people are over the topic and you might not get much response
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
8 Nov 2006 4:57pm
The main risk in launching a SLE is the bridle getting twisted around a wing tip. Make sure that you lay the bridles out down wind of the kite and make sure that your safety leash is attached to a flagging point on one of your lines.

Whilst I have done many self launches and it has not happened to me, a few friends have had some dramas with tangled bridles.

As stamp said, do a search, this topic has been extensively covered. The one I use is where you set the kite up lines upwind, bridles downwind, turn the kite until your far side wingtip is catching some wind, place a small amount of sand on top of the other wing tip. Walk until your lines are perpendicular to the wind, pull your back line that is facing the wind and voila - a self launch.

Please don't go off this post alone, read all of them and go to some of the links to video clips.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
8 Nov 2006 6:56pm
There are two techniques. One as described about, and another using sandbags. Not much around on the sandbag technique so I'll try get a video of it this weekend if there is enough wind.
Jamin
Jamin
QLD
22 posts
QLD, 22 posts
9 Nov 2006 6:09am
Thanks for the reply guys.

I suppose my initial question was: To launch an SLE, is it more like launching a BOW or a C kite or is there a method specific to SLEs?

If it is like a C kite then NO PROBLEMO! Have done 1000 of them.

If it is like a BOW kite then as suggested I made a topic search and found what I needed.

Cheers
NSW, 4382 posts
9 Nov 2006 8:34am
www.kitepower.com.au/blogs/news

Should cover most of what you need to know, self landing clip your leash to the flagging ring, don't have a flagging ring - get one, and then practice in lighter winds.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
Smasher
Smasher
NSW
59 posts
NSW, 59 posts
9 Nov 2006 2:00pm
I guess it depends on the specific kite.

By defintion a hybrid has characteristics of both C and Bow kites. The more swept back the wingtips are (more bow style), the more the kite will lend itself to the bow launching technique flying it off using the back line.

If the kite has little sweepback (more C style) then the technique you used on the old C kites should work better.

There's only one way to find out - Try both techniques on a light day with someone to help you out.
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
9 Nov 2006 4:48pm
Which kite do you have? Does it have bridles or just a 5th line that splits into 2?
Jamin
Jamin
QLD
22 posts
QLD, 22 posts
9 Nov 2006 5:58pm
It's a flow sle, so yes there is a bridle system.
Sorry to sound stupid but what do you guys call a flagging ring?
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
9 Nov 2006 4:33pm
Oh dear,oh dear,oh dear !!

A flagging ring is on the end of one of the front flying lines,connected to your safety leash. (Please don't ask what that is !)

When you activate your quick release,the kite is restrained by the one line,causing the kite be held at one end only,like a "flag"
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
9 Nov 2006 6:44pm
I used mine today...
Launched in about 25kt winds - with a mate launching for me, bridle got hooked over wing tip, started to loop, pulled the quick release and I was OK.

I always launch with my safety on the flagging line and then move it down to my normal riding position.
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
9 Nov 2006 6:45pm
With a bridle system you should be looking to use the method I described earlier
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
9 Nov 2006 8:12pm
There is an easier technique that requires 1 x sandbag, doesn't require you to drag your leading edge on the ground and has no risk of the bridle getting caught. I'm going to try get out tomorrow afternoon and get a video of it. Works well for launching and landing.
Uncle Rico
Uncle Rico
NSW
200 posts
NSW, 200 posts
10 Nov 2006 10:54am
Im not sure about the sandbag method, sure the bows are fairly predicatble in light wind, but if you get a gusty frontal wind the method is useless. Stick to the offical slide launch IMO. Also, im not sure about everyone else, but isnt it common sense that you should be connected to your kite, ready to depower it at any time when launching?

Also, riding bows without one line saftey is dodgy unless your unhooking. If you have any kind of equipment failure when the leash is connected below the bar, its useless and far more dangerous. If your worried about spinning the bar, get a spinning leash setup..

Im no oracle, but the safest ways to use these kites if obvious and I dont wanna get banned :).
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