Hey qfmike737,
Sans Souci, along Riverside Drive can be good in a Southerly but it is really onshore and can be a problem launching at high tide as there is no beach then.
Mick Moylans point can be empty and fun in a Nor Easter if you want to avoid the crowds at Dolls Point. Same run out tide if not faster, and you can tack up to Dolls. It's no good in a Southerly. However it can be ridden in a Westerly if you are desperate enough (super gusty).
The Northern side of Towra Point between the Outer Towra marker and the Entrance to Quibray Bay is fun in a Nor Easter in the shallows which keeps the chop down (no tidal effect). From there it is an easy work upwind to Kurnell or back to Dolls.
You can only kite Brighton Le Sands South of the Novatel ie no closer to the Airport than the big white hotel. Along the Grande Parade it is very choppy with huge bay chop. The beach is narrow and any problems sees you wash up against the rock wall in a Nor Easter. It does work in a NE, SE, SW, but there is very little beach at high tide and too many fisherman.
The Beach out front of Novatel is OK if there aren't too many peeps on the beach but again the water is choppy and the beach usually crowded in summer with tourists.
You might also try Yarra Bay @ La Perouse in a Westerly or Sou Wester which can be fun or also most of Kurnell is fun in a Nor Easter. The entrance to Quibray Bay is good in a Southerly but make sure you can stay upwind due to next stop being Ramsgate.
Other secret spot which few know about or ride is the leeward side of the sand bar off Pelican Point in the mouth of Wollooware Bay in a southerly. If you go there at mid to low tides you get the smoothest water on the whole bay, I mean buttery smooth, lots of room and no one there with clear winds (no peanut gallery or audience, no crowds!). You need to launch at Sans Souci on a low tide on the sand flats and work upwind to the sand bar. Check it out! It's awesome, but can only withstand about 4 kiters. If you kite there, there'll be room for 3 more of ya mates.
The last spot which everyone frequents and complains about is Dolls Point. It is well known, overcrowded, choppy, overcrowded, filled with learners, overcrowded, has kite eating trees and powerlines and is small and overcrowded with heaps of people there, get the picture????
For surf you can check out Maroubra, (but you better know someone there and get an invite) or Cronulla at the Wanda to Greenhills section of beach in either a Southerly or Nor Easter, both can be gusty. If it's too out-o-control at Cronulla (swell and wind) you can kite Darook Park (look it up on the map). A dodgy launch but fun kiting in a Southerly.
I reckon that probably just about covers it, hope this helps.
Merry Christmas and good winds
