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eppo
eppo
WA
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19 Jul 2013 8:13am
Is anyone secretly excited about the new lei chronic from fly surfer. Might be my old foil days creeping in but I must say this kite seems to have most innovation I've seen in a long time. Then again does it work, has the sake of being different over ridden the need for simplicity of design and flying characteristics.

Thing is which retailer will actually bring one in?
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
19 Jul 2013 10:22am
I wouldnt mind a demo of one, but I wouldn't buy one until after a year or two of it being on the market. Perhaps V2 or V3.
Hybrid_Z
Hybrid_Z
VIC
382 posts
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19 Jul 2013 10:27am
Big fan of flysurfer, enjoyed their foils when i kite buggied. Wouldn't take too many good reviews for me to go out on a limb and try one.
kitcho207
kitcho207
NSW
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19 Jul 2013 11:00am
eppo said...
[br]Is anyone secretly excited about the new lei chronic from fly surfer. Might be my old foil days creeping in but I must say this kite seems to have most innovation I've seen in a long time. Then again does it work, has the sake of being different over ridden the need for simplicity of design and flying characteristics.

Thing is which retailer will actually bring one in?


Ummm eppo, it's not such a secret now!!!
Plummet
Plummet
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19 Jul 2013 4:04pm
Yeah I'm keeping an eye on them. Could be the 10m I'm seeking.
radman4
radman4
678 posts
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19 Jul 2013 4:11pm
Just watched the promo vid for it and yea got to agree it has many many new interesting innovations ,would love to give it a fly,if everything checks out the way it's supposed to we will probably see a big move in the industry over the next couple of years.
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WA
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19 Jul 2013 4:21pm
eppo, when have you been secretive about anything???
suniboy21
suniboy21
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19 Jul 2013 8:36pm
radman4 said...
Just watched the promo vid for it and yea got to agree it has many many new interesting innovations ,would love to give it a fly,if everything checks out the way it's supposed to we will probably see a big move in the industry over the next couple of years.


Where can this promo vid be found?
radman4
radman4
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678 posts
19 Jul 2013 8:09pm
There's one posted on kite forum.com under the cronix topic.
Reevesy
Reevesy
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19 Jul 2013 10:15pm
Have a look on fly surfer site. Beautifully shot.
eppo
eppo
WA
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19 Jul 2013 11:33pm
Yeh yeh, true I'm not especially subtle am I!

But I know from experience they do make a great product albeit not suited to water in my humble opinion. To efficient a wing.

So I can't see why the lei is any different. Still just wondering if the use of trailing edge bridals and three quarter struts using battens to create a greater tuning range actually provides the first true all round kite, or is the gimmick factor higher than the performance produced.

And yes second or third gen for sure.

What I want to hear is reviews from well known lei flyers who have bagged foils for years...like pump me up on kiteforum. No point is listening to the already foil flysurfer riders, there opinion will mean diddly squat to me.

Lets wait and see...
airjunkie
airjunkie
WA
142 posts
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20 Jul 2013 1:45am
fair point eppo on not lilstening to the possibly biased opinions of the foil riders . . .

im probably one of those biased kiters -(before ozone I used to be flysurfer all the way still have a Psycho 4 in the bag and despite my c4's and edge's it's a foil heavy quiver)

disclaimer out of the way the infinity bar II is awesome true to the hype its the answer to never having to spin the bar again

the rest of the hype about the "rear mini bridle adaptive airfoil" is old hat for flysurfer they have been using that tech in their foils for years now so im expecting greatness !

all their flagship foils all have it and its amazing

That coupled with some of the most rigorous R&D in the kiting world and some of the best after sales customer service i've ever recieved flysurfer might just be raising the bar in LEI development

I can't wait to have a go on one - it's the most excited i've been about a new kite in years
radman4
radman4
678 posts
678 posts
20 Jul 2013 6:21am
I would say this kite will have been rigorously tested and refined prior to hitting the market just like the first generation Peter Lynn LEI kites
Both arnt the sort of company to come into an already saturated kite market with a substandard product.
Although air junkie I think you've got the wrong idea on the bar it unspins the centre lines only, if you loop the kite you will still have to spin the bar to uncross the lines.
Surfer62
Surfer62
1357 posts
1357 posts
20 Jul 2013 6:48am
flysurfer.com/project/cronix/

In the "features" tab check out the short video and the "self launch" feature, a sand bag anchor to the LE with a pin release as the kite launches, interesting self launch idea but must be limited to lower wind range ?

eppo
eppo
WA
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20 Jul 2013 8:55am
airjunkie said...
fair point eppo on not lilstening to the possibly biased opinions of the foil riders . . .

im probably one of those biased kiters -(before ozone I used to be flysurfer all the way still have a Psycho 4 in the bag and despite my c4's and edge's it's a foil heavy quiver)

disclaimer out of the way the infinity bar II is awesome true to the hype its the answer to never having to spin the bar again

the rest of the hype about the "rear mini bridle adaptive airfoil" is old hat for flysurfer they have been using that tech in their foils for years now so im expecting greatness !

all their flagship foils all have it and its amazing

That coupled with some of the most rigorous R&D in the kiting world and some of the best after sales customer service i've ever recieved flysurfer might just be raising the bar in LEI development

I can't wait to have a go on one - it's the most excited i've been about a new kite in years





Yeh good points air junkie. From my time on the fly surfers there is no compromise in quality and indeed r and D. Excited slightly.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
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20 Jul 2013 1:00pm
KSS are (officially) Flysurfer agents - just havent been stocking cos no demand.
Looking into this one.Call me if you are seriously interested.
eppo
eppo
WA
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20 Jul 2013 1:08pm
Jesus puppet what don't you have the exclusive right to!!

No demand, why not? Lol!!

I will be interested if you get a 10m demo in and get us locals to ride and review it, rather than some of those weird European crew...lol.

Maybe we could have a FS revitalisation day!

You get one in, I promise I will ride and review the sht out of it. I also have a couple of crew down here I would respect their feedback.

airjunkie
airjunkie
WA
142 posts
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20 Jul 2013 2:20pm
radman4 said..

I would say this kite will have been rigorously tested and refined prior to hitting the market just like the first generation Peter Lynn LEI kites
Both arnt the sort of company to come into an already saturated kite market with a substandard product.
Although air junkie I think you've got the wrong idea on the bar it unspins the centre lines only, if you loop the kite you will still have to spin the bar to uncross the lines.


fair point you are correct about spinning the bar, I've used this system for about 5 years on a modified infinity 1.0 bar setup (same same as a 2.0 just less hard wearing)

The thought of spinning the bar to uncross the outside lines just didn't cross my mind as i like most people do it at the tail end of a trick without really thinking about it


also as a result of using this bar setup, with a pump of the bar after each trick to uncross the lines i found that the wear from abrasion on the inside lines is more than halved !
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
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20 Jul 2013 2:24pm
eppo said..

Jesus puppet what don't you have the exclusive right to!!



Lots & lots actually - just trying to stay one step ahead by picking up the crumbs ignored by others.
But it does seem that most of what Eppo likes is also what KSS has liked.
Pretty stoked with our slowly expanding range atm actually - Ocean Rodeo in particular. Hugely under-rated kites (& boards) in Oz - IMHO.

Wasnt about to say anything just yet - but as you have asked - we will have demos of the 8M & 10M Cronix in by the end of the month. Im excited.
airjunkie
airjunkie
WA
142 posts
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20 Jul 2013 2:24pm
Puppet can you PM me the prices for the Cronix ?
I'm bracing myself as I'm well aware that their prices are at a premium
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
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20 Jul 2013 2:34pm
airjunkie said..

Puppet can you PM me the prices for the Cronix ?
I'm bracing myself as I'm well aware that their prices are at a premium


I only have ex factory Europe prices in Euros atm. Should have more info on the Oz price sometime next week.
Extrapolating a few different figures from a few different sources suggests they will come in somewhere relative to current LEI's but YEP I'm also bracing for them to be up there as well.Time will tell???? Let you know asap.
eppo
eppo
WA
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20 Jul 2013 3:00pm
Let us know when they arrive. Hey junkie maybe you and I could demo them together to swap notes? I have a feeling it would need to be an all day affair with all the tuning options.

And yeh you gotta uncross the outside lines man! Now that would be something if it did those as well. Lol!! Yeh I always liked that pump to uncross the centre lines, but heck those foils just didn't work for me hey even after I was one of the few still on them! For real light wind they are good but heck I was on the 19m edge in Bali, that with a sector is unstoppable!
Hybrid_Z
Hybrid_Z
VIC
382 posts
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20 Jul 2013 5:20pm
Briskites have prices up, $2379 for a 10.
DaylightDebt
DaylightDebt
WA
296 posts
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20 Jul 2013 3:55pm
I would be very keen for a demo as well, I will catch up on Thursday, trailing edge bridal will this help with lift when tensioned?
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