We all found out about these places somehow, I spose' it's good if you didnt know the spot and bad if you did. The thing about posting good spots on the internet is that your not selective who you tell or how many. It's good to share secret spots with your mates and stuff but it's not something you want the whole world to know about, especially if your local.

Yeah Toowoon Bay sounds sick, might make a trip up there in the holidays and try some handlepasses.

i'm with u corey

d***head can show the good stuff
just leave off the names and locations

xenophobia is a good thing

I dont think it is good enough just to leave the names off because it starts the following chain reaction

1)As soon as you show these spots you generate intrest.
2)Ppl start talking.
3)Someone knows where it is they tell someone else
4)The circus comes to town
5)Everyone complains and wishes it was still like the good old days

So keep it to yourself!!! Unless you are telling me

Also the internet has sped up this progression so keep the spots of the net because anyone(all over the world) can find out our best kept secrets

more to the point his email address is there too
(although you may have to speak German!!!)

WA is an aweful place to kite! It totally sux!! no wind... water like sewarage... and stds are rife so keep away from the woman too!
Take my advice and go to Cairns! Best kiting in Australia... awesome... beyond belief... perfect wind: 22.58 knots between 12:00 and 18:00 everyday ( the locals set there clocks by it)... and the water is glass... even the perfect 8 ft barrels 1 km offshore have glassey faces!


There, I've started the campaign!

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[i]Originally posted by kiterdan
I just watched "a dude who is going off" in the north west which pretty much spelt how long it takes you to get there, how much is costs, what to bring, provision of lat/long details, mud map, animals...1 giant advertising campaign!

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lol
A semi-secret spot isn't secret.
It's just semi-common knowledge.

If you don't believe me.........
Click 'Graphs' at the top of this page..
Then click 'North West'...

Bingo...
Secret wave and wind info for the secret internet surf spot.
hahahah

Keep it real.

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Originally posted by waveslave

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[i]Originally posted by kiterdan
I just watched "a dude who is going off" in the north west which pretty much spelt how long it takes you to get there, how much is costs, what to bring, provision of lat/long details, mud map, animals...1 giant advertising campaign!

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lol
A semi-secret spot isn't secret.
It's just semi-common knowledge.

If you don't believe me.........
Click 'Graphs' at the top of this page..
Then click 'North West'...

Bingo...
Secret wave and wind info for the secret internet surf spot.
hahahah

Keep it real.

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So the graphs are there...woopdy do.
Mr. Netherlands doesn't know that so lets make a video, advertise it on kiteforum that is frequented by a majority of the worlds kiters, house it on youtube with location details etc. so that Mr. Netherlands does know about the spot. Is that northwest wind graphs URL a homepage for every single kiter that frequents kiteforum or that particular video on youtube? Didn't think so. It will implicate a bit more research on the topic though if they're inclined to do so.

Would you honestly not care Mr. Redneck, if someone made a 15 minute video of your local wave spot?? Albeit, it is not so secret, but for all those kiters and windsurfers that don't know about it, chances are they'll be more inclined to visit and bring their friends too. Nothing like sharing, but it ain't so special when 50 of your best mates come along. Besides which, some places can only handle a certain number before there are accidents.

By all means, come visit, we're all into the sport for the same reason! Show the videos but have a bit of respect for the "locals".

Perhaps you should keep it real you redneck.

[Disclaimer: this is not aimed at any foreigners who come to OZ, just the blokes wanting to mainstream some of our spots. I have some really good kiting friends from europe]

are there rednecks on this forum?

i'm a goin to get pa and flush them suckers out!

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=2750

For all the James Bonds on the WA coast:

First, the secret spots:
What is so secret about them? If you guys talk about them to other people they don't look too secret to me... How about calling them spots where you don't like other people to come and have a good time like you do!

Second, the not so secret spots:
If you guys have problems with kite hooligans not respecting waves, local rules, etc... In the old surfing days you would get bashed and beaten up by the localsc ! Kiters are a bit more civilized How about getting together with your local councils to erect some panels explaining the rules: rigging, launching, wave rights,... That will keep you from frustrations and most importantly will keep you kite spots open!!! Better get together with the localities now before it's too late...
Originally from Belgium, I know over there kiters have been banned pretty much from every where. there is only a few spots left open to them. They must wear helmets (I believe) life jackets, signaling devices, cannot kite further away than a certain distance from the shores... I believe it's like that in many places trough out Europe! So of course when they come and kite here they feel like they can do anything! And are they to blame? Who wouldn't act this way, coming from a very restricted environment to an almost "do as you pleased" one!

Pff! Secret spots, your'e all kidding right?. You do realise that next step from that is we will have people at the said "secret spots" asking the question of a stranger on the beach...."how did you find this location, piss off your'e not local".

The mine, all mine!! mentality breeds in such thinking, don't be selfish. If someone wants to go to the effort to get somewhere new and it's YOUR secret spot...then have a good hard look at yourself, because it just wasn't yours to begin with.

Aaron Hadlow's dad told me some very wise words when in Geraldton a few years back. He experienced a bit of the "secret spot" attitude and simply pointed out to me that if you go to all the "secret spots" around the world for surfing, you will find one common thing. "Lot's of Australians".

As far as advertising it goes via video.....

If we didn't have the selfish attitude I mentioned above and it was common knowlege about a certain secret spot of which I can't mention here for fear of reprisals from locals (yeah right! Oakajee!!!) , we wouldn't have last minute scrambling to try and tell everybody about it to save it from big industry cos' no-one knows it exists except a select few "locals". (none of which by the way were even born in the region let alone the closest town)

The world of kiters and windsurfers really isn't that big. The world which wants to make money from the same spots we call secret is far bigger and hungrier. I think there's no fear of hords of wind warriors rocking up at your local because they saw it on a vid and spoiling your buzz.

No such thing as a secret spot, I'm with Waveslave on this one. (gag! did I say that?)

"Semi-secret spots and the internet"

with a topic like that I just had to look.
Here is what I done and most likley a lot of other users because of your post.

Read the post (found out that it is not that secret)
found the topic on kiteforum & read that
found the link on utube
watched a bit of it
found a link to save the file from utube directly to my pc
watched it a bit more
downloaded the other vids & watched them

All this only took about 1/2 hour after reading your post
Are you now thinking what the hell have I done

Finding new and exciting spots is only natural, it is how we do it that has changed forever.
The Queen sent captin cook to find some new secret spots.
With the internet & peolpe who forgot what you need to do to keep a secret the world has no secrets.

Hope to get over there and enjoy it with you guy's one day.

ric

Fair enough! Simply a question to all kiters/windsurfers and my response.
For the record, the dude has since changed the title of the video and its contents and has removed the link from kiteforum.

The post was never about keeping it "secret" or promoting "localism". As 'slave said, semi-secret, semi-common knowledge. It is about showing a little of bit of courtesy to the others, local or otherwise, that love these spots too.

So in conclusion, as the eastern staters (including hirchausen) have said, let the visitors tell the world about your spot that you make a big effort to visit and have uncrowded conditions, so that the rest of the world can come.

At least it answered my original question!

I wouldn't have searched for the vid, if Steve hadn't posted it...great vid by the way.

Ummmmmmm maybe double sessions today........now, to which of the 8 secret spots within 20 min. am I going to go in the arvo. 3 kites out at one spot this am from 6:30, we each had a bay to ourselves...nackered.

Saw 5 dolpohins, 6 sharks (2 white pointers) and had a huge body drag.

OK, not sure if you're being serious there...but either way, no its shiite topic.

I just read some of the dribble coming from kiteforum users...threats etc. The bloke has a business to run which I don't believe will be helped by the reaction from some on that forum. Forum tragics!

It was never my intention to personally attack Bernie, who happens to be a good bloke, just raise an issue that I felt needed to be raised and to ask, is too late to even worry about videos/posts about these places.

Share and share alike, but Im keeping my cards to myself.