Setting Rpm up

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wassaby
wassaby
QLD
92 posts
QLD, 92 posts
12 Oct 2009 11:10pm
Hey guys just got a question on the RPM's. I noticed you have 3 knots on the centre lines. Was wondering if you put it on the knot closest to the kite will this give you less power making the centre lines longer and when putting them on the knots away from the kite making them shorter, will this give you more power. Similar to the outside lines.
sandman
sandman
WA
432 posts
WA, 432 posts
13 Oct 2009 12:39am
hmmm, either I am reading that wrong or your post doesn't make sense. Remember, adjustments in the kites power come as a result of the difference in length between the front and back lines

If you attach the centre lines (ie the front ones) closest to the kite you are making them shorter in comparison to the back lines, not longer.

(if you attach the rear (outside) lines closer to the kite, they become shorter in comparison to the front lines which will power up the kite.)

Harking back to the day of pure C kites that would de-power you kite, the bridle might complicate this theory slightly but I can't see how.

(Note; some would argue that this is just a trimming option, and I would tend to agree, but I'm not going to get all conceptual on that side of things.)
wassaby
wassaby
QLD
92 posts
QLD, 92 posts
13 Oct 2009 7:53am
Would be nice if they sent that with the kite.

wassaby
wassaby
QLD
92 posts
QLD, 92 posts
13 Oct 2009 7:54am
sandman said...

hmmm, either I am reading that wrong or your post doesn't make sense. Remember, adjustments in the kites power come as a result of the difference in length between the front and back lines

If you attach the centre lines (ie the front ones) closest to the kite you are making them shorter in comparison to the back lines, not longer.

(if you attach the rear (outside) lines closer to the kite, they become shorter in comparison to the front lines which will power up the kite.)

Harking back to the day of pure C kites that would de-power you kite, the bridle might complicate this theory slightly but I can't see how.

(Note; some would argue that this is just a trimming option, and I would tend to agree, but I'm not going to get all conceptual on that side of things.)


Knots on the centre lines are are actually on the centre lines not the kite. On the outside lines they are on the kite.
wassaby
wassaby
QLD
92 posts
QLD, 92 posts
13 Oct 2009 9:10am
Read the manual and can't find much on the centre line knots. Any one know?
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
13 Oct 2009 11:18am
wassaby said...

sandman said...

hmmm, either I am reading that wrong or your post doesn't make sense. Remember, adjustments in the kites power come as a result of the difference in length between the front and back lines

If you attach the centre lines (ie the front ones) closest to the kite you are making them shorter in comparison to the back lines, not longer.

(if you attach the rear (outside) lines closer to the kite, they become shorter in comparison to the front lines which will power up the kite.)

Harking back to the day of pure C kites that would de-power you kite, the bridle might complicate this theory slightly but I can't see how.

(Note; some would argue that this is just a trimming option, and I would tend to agree, but I'm not going to get all conceptual on that side of things.)


Knots on the centre lines are are actually on the centre lines not the kite. On the outside lines they are on the kite.


edit, my bad I mean't it the other way around!
makes no difference,the pinciple is still he same. as sandman said, if you make the centre lines shorter you depower the kite by changing the angle of the kite and vise versa. be careful not to make the centre lines too long compared to the outside lines as this leads to oversheeting
bobjaan
bobjaan
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
13 Oct 2009 8:36am
"Bennie" wrote "makes no difference,the pinciple is still he same. as sandman said, if you make the centre lines longer you depower the kite by changing the angle of the kite and vise versa. be careful not to make the centre lines too long compared to the outside lines as this leads to oversheeting "

Think Sandmand said to make them Shorter to depower???

Hey dude, maybe have another look at the manual. If you make the centre lines longer this means the back lines are shorter in comparison. So think about when you suck the bar in, it shortens the back lines making the kite power up.

So by making the front lines longer you power up the kite. By making the front lines shorter you depower the kite.

Then vica versa.

I always try to teach people about the bar end and then make them see the connection on the kite.

So basic rules are back lines are power lines. If you shorten them the kite is powered up. Same as sucking bar in.

If you adjust front lines think about what they do to the back lines and you will have you answer to power.

Bennie the oversheeting thing is correct but that is because your back lines are too tight and the kite too powered up.
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
13 Oct 2009 1:02pm
When I've flown the rpm and I do the same with my revs and octanes, I put front lines on end knots and rear lines on middle knot so kite is powered up a bit.

If you want more depower then pull some trim in.


The only settings you need to stuff around with are the wake/freeride setting or the barpressure.
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