Slingshot REV (9m) for a beginner??

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mikekx102
mikekx102
WA
70 posts
WA, 70 posts
1 Jan 2008 11:03pm
Hi everyone! I'm 14 years old, 60 kg and just getting into the sport. Im planning on getting the 9m Slingshot REV. Is there a catch 22 to this kite I havent heard anything bad about it! Do any of you have problems with it?

I'm planning on riding at Woodman's point after a few lessons. Is a 9m kite too much for a beginner of my age? or would that be ok?

I havn't decided yet whether to get a 2nd hand board, a cheap (but new) board or a pretty good new one- probably f-one, is there anything wrong with the build quality of them? I'll get a reasonable harness and then LESSONS!

I'm trying to get the deal where you buy the equipment and then get free lessons, so I want to get it right the first time!!!

I know I've asked alot of questions, but thanks in advance, Michael.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
1 Jan 2008 11:26pm
7m would be better, its definitively a good choice of kite though... i got a board for sale that would suit you very well as well
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
1 Jan 2008 11:39pm
I weigh the same as you, and i have a 7m kite. A 9would be nice for under 18knots, but above about 20 i get overpowered , and rev is probablyt more grunty than my kite.
I can use my 7 in about 15-16knots, but cant stay upwind easy. Above that it is all good. Depending on board youll be fine on a 7.
cliffor123
cliffor123
455 posts
455 posts
1 Jan 2008 11:50pm
maybe a second hand kite, then you could afford a nicer board, there are some good 2007 kites advertised at the moment.
greg
mikekx102
mikekx102
WA
70 posts
WA, 70 posts
2 Jan 2008 12:26am
Dawn Patrol- would outgrowing a 7m kite be a problem? Or do you think you would you want a new one by that time anyway?

Cliffor123- I've thaught about that, but the majority of people i've spoken to said the kite matters more than the board?? Mabee I'll just spend another $600 and get a good board aswell!!! .... I need to go to work a bit more!

I'm trying to get a size that would suit all the conditions I'll go out in, as I'm only getting one. 7m would be better in stronger wind, but while I'm just learning will I be able to go out with a 7m kite when it's relatively calm?

Thanks for the replies so far, keep them coming!! Michael.


Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
2 Jan 2008 9:47am
Get the kite to suit you now, not in a years time. Plus that gives you an exuse to save for a new one next year.
I would prioritise kite more than board. If a board snaps big deal, but if a line on the kite goes well, could be interesting.
The seven probably wont get you going in calm conditions, im thinking anything under 15-16knots would be no good (depending on board).
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
2 Jan 2008 10:34am
im 80 kg [getting fater] and would buy a 7m and 11m if i was to get revs, i have 7 9 11 atm of a similar kite so if your worrying about out growing it i can assure you that you will look at getting another kite in the future anyway. unless you put on 10kg in one year your not even going to think about changing kite.
GranG
GranG
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
2 Jan 2008 12:29pm
I own a REV and I love them too.

Everyone is different, but my personal preference would be to get a 2007 kite at almost half the price. The subtle differences of the 2008 crop of kites are hard to realise when you are learning.

My order of "important things' for a learner would be

1) Saftey - ease of release and safety system simplicity
2) Depower - more is better and builds trust in the learner
0) (i.e. should be at the top) is a good instructor.

Seat harness definitely recommended if you start as the kite pulls up, but you can learn with waist harness too.

Learning to kite, the board is actually quite important in getting you planning early... I would spend more money on a good beginner (largish) board and a bit less on a kite.

Once you have it wired, buy a rev, which will then be second hand...

puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
2 Jan 2008 2:56pm
TurboDiesel 2 is Slingshots entry level kite. Bit slower, easier to control & more forgiving then the REV. If you are definate about 1 kite being 'it' for your whole first season then in Perth, for your size 10M TD2 would be what the book would tell you. (ie comfortably workable 14ish kts to a bit over 20 as a beginner) .
But the 9M REV is an awesome kite. At 14 you will probably progress really fast so I would consider it a realistic option. Your early sessions may be a bit more um ... 'exciting' (ha ha) but you will get the hang of it pretty quick.
Either of these kites would be a great choice if you can afford new. Maybe put off your kite choice till after your lessons and ask your instructor. I think the free lessons still work if you buy after ???
And IMO a bigger cheap 2nd hand board to start with. You wont loose much money on it, it will make learning quite a bit quicker & you will know what you want in a new smaller board later.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
2 Jan 2008 3:50pm
its called the turbo2, not td2... and its basically a heavy duty rev for learning and fast turning also better relaunch.
both are good but the rev is still what i would pick out of the two
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
2 Jan 2008 5:01pm
the rev is the wrong kite for a beginner.

I would look for other opinions coz if they are recommending that as a kite what ever other info they are giving you might be bs.

my tip. go grab some lessons from a IKO school then go buy gear after u have a better idea.

and btw the rev is completely different from a turbo2.

I think slingshot have a bit of a hole in their range. A good sle like a best waroo, airush flow sle, cabrinha omega etc will be better for you then either a rev or turbo2.

(this is comming from a slingshot pimp)
cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
2 Jan 2008 6:06pm
agree with carbine... I just got a 7 meter rev and its not a kite I would let a learner use...way too fast and powered in the loops means you will be in for some sweet spanks if you take your eyes of it when learning .its a great fun zippy kite.

go to a schoo they will give u info for the right stuff.

footnote..most kite videos have basic advice when learning tricks...large kite in light winds and hands in middle of the bar....
benji1489
benji1489
NSW
2 posts
NSW, 2 posts
3 Jan 2008 3:08am
yeah im just starting up too and im trying to figure out what i want to get. pretty much the same weight wise too. i was recommended the turbo2. the guy was pretty adamant it was the best kite for me to get

however.... ive had my eye on the flexifoil atom tho and would prefer to get that. i havent tried it and want to know if itd be a decent kite to get as havent heard much about it. whats the diff between the hybrid(atom?) and sle(turbo)? blah blah blah

:) cheers
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
3 Jan 2008 1:38am
youl learn all this in lessons dude..

yeah a 10m T2 is def a brilliant size for a 60kg rider.... NOT
mate i weigh between 74 - 76 atm and im riding a 10m as my sole kite in perth, 18 - 26 knots.. for you i suggest a 7m SLE wich is a bridled high depower kite such as the Airush DNA or flow, Ocean Rodeo Rise, Best Waroo etc. that kite size will get you going in anything over 17 knots. and when you grow n get bigger you can keep that as ur 25 plus knot kite and get a 10 for the lower end.. I strongly suggest you go see a good instructor personally recomending australian kiteboarding school at pinaroo, maybe Ian Young at Peli point or West oz kiteboarding at Rockingham. They will all be able to give you solid useable advice on what kite to choose and what size is right for you.

the biggest advice i can give you.. dont listen to people on this forum suggesting a kite then trying to sell their old ones off on you. it will most likely be the wrong choise.

Welcome to the sport mate and hope u like it
jacky
jacky
WA
41 posts
WA, 41 posts
3 Jan 2008 1:47am
I just started kitesurfing 2 weeks ago now and my first kite was the 9m rev and i love it as my first kite. I may not know the experience of other kites but from a beginners point of view the rev is a great choice. I was tossing up between the turbo or the rev and i kind of new that i would grow into the rev. I used my 9m rev a couple of days ago in 22 knot winds and it was just right for me. it was abit nippy but for a learner with a kite size like that it was pretty good. my weight is about 72kg and im only 15 years old. maybe take your lesson first then c what u think. cheers.
Ryland
Ryland
WA
1222 posts
WA, 1222 posts
3 Jan 2008 9:30am
i would go a 9m. the 7m may be a little fast for learning on but still a great kite. the 9m is alot more suitable to someone wanting a one kite quiver and in my opinion a great kite to learn on and you won't grow out of . carbine i know you have flown the 7m but have you flown the 9, its a alot slower than the 7m. they relaunch easy, heaps of depower and have slingshots bomber construction. i dont think you could go wrong with a rev.
sorse
sorse
NSW
509 posts
NSW, 509 posts
3 Jan 2008 6:50pm
I'm in instructor in newy nsw have one young boy who has a 7m rev as his first kite 2nd lesson up and riding having never kited before he demoed the t2 and rev on the same day during his second lesson and bought it 14 years old his dad did the lesson with him and got himself a 13m his young son is ripping around him loving it..
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
4 Jan 2008 3:37pm
I'm not sure how dramatically an extra 20+kgs makes to the kites performance, but I'm bout 85kgs and ride the 9m Rev. I found that the 9m Rev is more than capable of being comfortably riden in 35+ knts and will still get you cruising in sub 18s. I'd definately recomend the 9 over the 7. I found the 7 to be a mosquito in the air and didn't have that much more depower than the 9m. The 9m is much more smoother and loftier in every aspect.

Got to love the Rev tho. Massive, long lofty jumps and precision turning. Only thing I found to be both excellent and anoying was the Rev's tendancy to tuck into a C kite when fully depowered. This will save hurting yourself when a loop or trick goes wrong because you wont get catapolted downwind due to the kite's projected area minimising. However this makes the canopy flap around and the kite wont turn well.

Has anyone compared the Rev to the Rebel2, Bandit, Waroo Pro ect.ect?
cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
4 Jan 2008 7:57pm
The revs depower comes with what you do with your feet and has power in the turns and in light wind I find i get the most by signing the kite, the 08 rebels more to do with the bar sheeting and has no power in the turns, rebel works best as park and ride and uses apparent wind to really get going - 12 meter rebel is a nice light wind kite which I ride upto 18 knots most days, in winds over 18 knots the 7 meter rev works better in gusty stuff because of the constant load in turns and working the kite to get the power were as the 9 meter rebel tends to have more on and off power surges. (only rode the rev a few times so far though - 15 knots upto 25 knots since getting it) The rebel is very forgiving the rev not so much.

The original rebel was a little more closer to the revs in ride i think with regards to having power in the turns

Both kites are good but depends what style you like as they are very different kites. Revs more c and rebels more bow.
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