Sol 2007, and Torch! Perfect combo!

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JB
JB
NSW
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JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
9 Oct 2006 8:40am
I have just had probably the best kiteboarding weekend in Years!! Rode saturday, perfect Nor-east on 12m Torch and Sol 136. What a combo, wind was about 20knots. The Torch has unbelievable turning speed, wikid jumps/hangtime and the Sol is probably the smoothest ride I have ever had, No spray in the face, great flex, super responce from the wood core (vertically laminated like in snowboard construction), perfect for onshore conditions, waveriding and holding power and speed!

Then Sunday! WOW!!! Rode the exact smae setup, winds gusting up to and in excess of 40 knots! Was on the water from 1:15 till 3:30pm, Some of the craziest airs I have ever done. The torch has unbelievable depower, this is Naish's power freestyle kite, and it was very managable concidereing the condition. (BTW, I don't suggest to anyone to try ride a 12m in 40 knots!) Head high waves, and gusty wind never felt so good! I urge all to visit your local dealer and go for a test ride! Well done Naish, this gear is so on!

Hope all got a good session on the weekend, and hope there was no injuries!

Speak soon,

JB
kiteodyssey
kiteodyssey
QLD
17 posts
QLD, 17 posts
9 Oct 2006 10:19am
its a nice kite and board JB, I have an 06 torch and was riding the 06 Sol untill I snapped it last week....
As for riding any 12m in 40kn your spanking the monkey bro.... get your wind meter out and ill bet its probably maxing at 30 if yuor lucky..... im 93kg, been riding for a few years and if I can hold my 12 down in 30kn im fully impressed... super smooth wind, super glass water....
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
9 Oct 2006 12:24pm
Spanking the monkey asside, I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. I didn't use a wind metre (you look like a dork standing on the beach with those silly looking things!), I just read the wind reading around my area from the BOM during the time that I was riding, and many of the weather stations had reading higher than 40kts.

Anyway, like I said. I was more so commenting on the unbelievable depower of the 2007 Torch and the super smooth ride of the 2007 Sol. The 2007 Torch has probably twice the depower of the 2006 and the 07 Sol is a totoally different board to the 06!

I agree 12m kites in 30kts are a handful, and I was extremely supprised to be able to kite (and have fun) in the extreme conditions we experienced yesterday what ever the reading may or may not have been.

Kiteodyssey, I strongly suggest you try the New 2007 Torch! It is a different animal!

BTW, I have a fair bit of experience on my side too. I have been Kiteboarding for nearly 7 years and weight 95kgs. I would not suggest that anyone try to ride big kites (or at all) in winds of this strength, I always ride with extremely experienced riders and with beach support in conditions like this. Also please note W.A residnets that this is Sydney wind! Can be differnet to heavy density winds like W.A or Maui.

Regards,

JB
kared
kared
NSW
13 posts
NSW, 13 posts
9 Oct 2006 1:11pm
Spanking aside here is the wind graph for yesterday. Saw some massive air from those guys at north cronulla.


nattdogg
nattdogg
QLD
92 posts
QLD, 92 posts
9 Oct 2006 4:58pm
hey!! i was ridding a naish 9m torch3 in 35 40knots today. the kite was great with the gust, great turning speed and bar pressure. was ridding a 128 thorn!! great board handled the chop great and no spray in the facethe kite was great on the jumping side, jumping bigger then i have ever before.

paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
9 Oct 2006 5:18pm
great
890Falcon
890Falcon
NSW
383 posts
NSW, 383 posts
9 Oct 2006 5:25pm
Hey JB what settings did you have the lines set on your bar 1st second or third knot.
Jason tells me theirs only one 16 T3 left when is their another shipment coming in.

12 T3 rocks cant wait to try the 16.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
9 Oct 2006 5:23pm
anyone know about our heavy density wind here in WA? Im confused? does that mean WA riders can hold and edge better Is my X-Bow Ok to 45knots in Sydney?
hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
9 Oct 2006 7:56pm
J.B. its good that you had a good session but you forgot to mention that you are the Aus importer/dealer for Naish. ??????????????????? 40 knots ????????????????????????



I once rode my North r2 20m in 40 knots. Its a great kite and its for sale at the right price.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
9 Oct 2006 6:02pm
Someone has to help dump all the redundant C kites !
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
9 Oct 2006 8:28pm
12m in around 40 knots i belive it, we had a young guy out on the gold coast at nobbys today with winds around 35 knots on a 9m t3 and was handling it fine and this kid is only around 60 to 65 kg, so if you know JB you know he is a little overweight but he also likes to ride super powered.
Remembering JB has won a National Title, so you think he knows what 40knts is.
I just got back from perth a few weeks back. Where i was on a 7m rebel fully powered in about 25knts and today on the gold coast i was on a 9m rebel in 35+knts. Just depends on how your riding at the time.

cheers paul j
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
9 Oct 2006 8:48pm
how do you know?
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
9 Oct 2006 8:52pm
seen what? Me ride straps on my surfie or was it when i had boots on my twintip.

paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
9 Oct 2006 9:14pm
now all my posts look out of wack cos some cheeky ****er took away their posts.

Pu*#y
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
9 Oct 2006 10:17pm
Sure there were posts there. You're just trying to cover for the fact that you're having an entire conversation with yourself
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
9 Oct 2006 10:26pm
paul you been talking with the invisible man!

and yes it was 30+ today readers, yipeeeeee

sore arms, tomorrow too!
mikekite
mikekite
QLD
55 posts
QLD, 55 posts
10 Oct 2006 6:19am
Hey Pauli, you been smokin again eh bro?
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
10 Oct 2006 9:18am
Ok, I can't believe how much this comes up. Yes I work for Windgenuity, and yes we are the importers of Naish, north and a whole bunch of other products, and yes I am a team rider for Naish. This does not change anything I have said! I compaired the 2007 product with the 2006, I haven't bull****ted or ****ted on any other product, and mearly recommended everyone to have a try of the equipment if they can get the chance! Hmmm I don't see the issue?

Anyway, As I said earlier, I didn't take a wind reading from the beach, I went off the BOM readings from many local area of the time I was riding, either way it was Farken windy!! But again, this is not what the post was about!

Wind density, it is possible for 20kts to be very different from location to location! For instance in Maui, your wind meter (if you use them!!) will read 25 knts and you will be on your smallest kite and shytin yourself! were-as in far northern Queensland or out in the islands on the east coast you will be on your biggest kite. W.A. from what I have experienced has a similar wind to Maui (STRONG!!). Sydney on the other hand which get F-all wind, rarely gets over 20kts! But when it does, it tends to tear dogs from their chains!

As for knowing windy from windy, I have windsurfed at a National level for over 15 years, and kited for pretty much 7 years. I also raced 505's, Lasers, and many yachts over the past 18 years, I've been in many a big wind. Last Sunday was by no means the windiest I've been in, but it was windy!

Now Jacko, all this posting to yourself! I am starting to get a bit worried!! Oh, BTW, i have lost 5kgs!! Woohoo, only 95kgs now.

Anyway, back to the main topic, It's seems those who have tried the T3 agree with me regarding it's depower and boost. I urge you all, if you haven't tried the T3, try and line up a demo, it is a wikid kite!

Also, I didn't know that "C" kites were redundant!! Wow, when I go to the beach I see more "c's" than anything else!! I think the market has accepted that there are many different styles of kite out there, each different and suited to different styles in different ways. This is why testing as many kites as possible is the best thing you can do, build up your knowladge of how different system and style fly, and make smart interlectual posts instead of trying to look smart by slandering something you know nothing about. kites are developing so quickely, it's hard to imagine whats going to come out next year! I heard naish are working on a kite that doesn't have any lines at all! It uses magnets............

regards,

JB
Classic
Classic
QLD
76 posts
QLD, 76 posts
10 Oct 2006 9:34am
What's next a kite that uses the force?
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
10 Oct 2006 7:45am
quote:
Originally posted by JB
I heard naish are working on a kite that doesn't have any lines at all! It uses magnets............




Hmmmm,
That might solve the problem of heads being chopped off by 30 metre bandsaws.
Maybe there is a future for kitesurfing on our public beaches.
Yeah right.
buz999
buz999
NSW
26 posts
NSW, 26 posts
10 Oct 2006 5:16pm
yeah paul who could that invisible man be?
cammck
cammck
QLD
108 posts
QLD, 108 posts
11 Oct 2006 8:18am
If a guy with all JB's experience tells me that it is 40 knts than I aint gonna argue. I am even tempted to get a T3 in the slim chance it may make me a better kiter. Sadly I think that the problems my kite has exist between the chicken loop and the board.

Camo
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