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DaveSpruce
DaveSpruce
WA
568 posts
WA, 568 posts
28 Apr 2009 11:12pm
Hey guys..

Just thought I'd let you know I've finally finished my new website. There are a couple of shots on there too, of course, and many from Woodies/Perth/Australia so have a little peek and let me know what you think.

photo.davespruce.se/

/Dave
fozzy
fozzy
SA
501 posts
SA, 501 posts
29 Apr 2009 8:07am
Never been a big fan of people referring to themselves in the third person. Would be more personal IMO if you simply stated, "I then travelled to.......where I.......

For what it's worth.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
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29 Apr 2009 10:52am
fozzy said...

Never been a big fan of people referring to themselves in the third person. Would be more personal IMO if you simply stated, "I then travelled to.......where I.......

For what it's worth.


We are talking about the art critic "Sprucemeister" though. He's allowed to refer to himself in the 3rd person.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
29 Apr 2009 9:58am
Sprucester, you are a glutton for punishment. You rag and bag so many people and photos they post etc. etc. and then come on to this site, after leaving the country in one piss bad mood to ask what we all think of your web site........................you have got to be kidding man.

Personally I like the photos you take, but that is as far as I go....take a strong look at your self and don't be surprised when you get abused or red arrowed.....but that is what you want isn't it? Negative attention if you can't get the positive stuff.

Nice web site though....well done, simple, good graphics and nice piccies....there is some talent there...


kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
29 Apr 2009 1:10pm
The format doesn't work for me on 1024x600 netbook screen - half the 'earth' etc is off the screen to the left. Almost every other site works fine, so I'd say it's the way you coded it. Could be something to look at.
Oakie
Oakie
WA
268 posts
WA, 268 posts
29 Apr 2009 1:06pm
'He soon became very popular and people realised his skills were there and wanted to make use of them.'

Did you write that yourself??


Really????
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
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29 Apr 2009 3:50pm
Oakie said...

'He soon became very popular and people realised his skills were there and wanted to make use of them.'

Did you write that yourself??


Really????


Saffer (It makes me more important to talk about myself in the 3rd person) thinks that sprucemeister wrote it himself based on the final sentence which says "Enjoy the photos, and don't hesitate to contact me for whatever reason.."

Saffer thinks maybe sprucemeister should have got someone to write it for him, and then put their name at the bottom so the sprucemeister doesn't look vain and self obsessed. Saffer agrees that people should be careful about criticising other people's photos when sometimes the person doing the criticising isn't perfect. Saffer does think the sprucemeister has potentially opened himself to some weird and wonderful proposals from some really sick people by saying that people are free to contact him for any reason, although Saffer is not sure on whether this was the sprucemeister's intention.

Saffer also thinks that the sprucemeister should get someone to spell check the webpage because their are basic spelling errors that could be avoided using the wonderful built in technology called "spell checker" found in most programs. Saffer also noticed grammatical errors in the story part, for example, Sprucemeister says "Dave started taking the photographing more and more serious". Saffer thinks unless the sprucemeister intend this to mean that the spruce became had more serious facial expressions, the sprucemeister should probably substitute serious for "seriously".

Perhaps the sprucemeister may now realise that it doesn't take an expert on web technology to criticise a person creating a webpage, much the same as it doesn't take a pro photographer to criticise someone's photos, and perhaps it may be an opportunity for the sprucemeister to learn that there are kinder ways of helping critique someone's work than in a public forum. The sprucemeister may also realise that contrary the popular sprucemeister belief, simply saying "This page sucks" doesn't help the author fix the problems, and perhaps sprucemeister should avoid this method of critiquing photos in future.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
29 Apr 2009 4:18pm
lotofwind thinks that the spruce shouldnt be pimping his web site here
scoop
scoop
86 posts
86 posts
29 Apr 2009 2:39pm
Which pics on the site have been published? Id love to know what the standard is.
scoop
scoop
86 posts
86 posts
29 Apr 2009 2:50pm
Constructive CC. I dont mind the kite shots but they dont appear cutting edge in the slightest. The attempts to get some added elements into the composition distract more then add value. They look alot like shots that you would see from circa 2002 or old kite calendars. They guy in the sky shots are old and done and the rest seem appear too tight with more a journalistic style to them. The one i reckon could make a mag would be the Jo Ciastula shot. Alot of the cropping looks whack as well. A little forced and cramped. Not trying to be harsh but fair dinkum
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
29 Apr 2009 3:01pm
scoop said...

Constructive CC. I dont mind the kite shots but they dont appear cutting edge in the slightest. The attempts to get some added elements into the composition distract more then add value. They look alot like shots that you would see from circa 2002 or old kite calendars. They guy in the sky shots are old and done and the rest seem appear too tight with more a journalistic style to them. The one i reckon could make a mag would be the Jo Ciastula shot. Alot of the cropping looks whack as well. A little forced and cramped. Not trying to be harsh but fair dinkum


100% agree - back to piccyshop 101 for the Spruce and his other entities.

The colour and crispness are there, but I don't see any ideas or 'sumpin differant' that catches your eye (or imagination) in the kite section. In fact many of the shots are timed a bit off so as to make hot riders look a bit gumby. Some better attempts at composition in the other sections but wind is average (contrary to the self review).

Hey Dave - you sure are quick (and blunt) to critique other's input so take it on the chinny mate.


10 points for effort but minus 7 points for the self indulgance.


As for talking about oneself in the 3rd person well at least he doesn't have a posed for - then photshopped pic of himself as an avatar.. oh wait..
timmm
timmm
WA
55 posts
WA, 55 posts
29 Apr 2009 3:34pm
i thought that a couple of the pics were GREAT!

the one of Jo passing the bar with perth skyline in the background, and the pic of Rowdy on the pointy-rail and the pic of sci throwing buckets with the tanker in the background were very welltimed/classy -exciting shots.

didnt rate the pics that had the foreground objects blurred - probly meant for depth, but i found them too distracting.

TheChad
TheChad
QLD
142 posts
QLD, 142 posts
29 Apr 2009 6:31pm
Yeah I agree, out of focus foregrounds can be super effective sometimes, however very distracting most of the time.

Some nice shots though
DaveSpruce
DaveSpruce
WA
568 posts
WA, 568 posts
29 Apr 2009 6:02pm
Ladies ladies:) I'm happy to see I can still create a stir in your fine kitesurfing fraternity;)

I didn't post here to "pimp my website", simply to show you some photos. If you don't like them that's fine too, I know alot of you don't like the shots simply because I've taken them and for some reason you have a hatred towards me (even though most of you have never even met me). I appreciate ALL constructive critisism, and that's what I have been giving other people too, not "bagging and ragging". I always enter everything with an open mind, but if I ask "What camera were you using" and I get the answer "A square one" then why should I be humble and helpful? At no point have I ever just said "This photo sucks" or "It's crap" so I don't know what your deal is..

The reason I wrote the story in 3rd person is to make it less amateurish, less "I've done this website myself" kind of thing. Also bare in mind it's a "story" about me and not an autobiography. But since I have had sooo many people complaining about it I will change it. Spelling errors there may be as I wrote it all in one go (and I'm sorry that offended you Saffer, maybe I should have written it in one of the other 5 languages I speak) and was sick of the whole thing. Couldn't find a spell check in the software I was using and frankly didn't care as I just wanted to get it all online at that time. It's easier to update bits and pieces afterwards.

Regarding cropping: I've cropped some images to make them, IMHO, more interesting and to force the eye to look at a certain object first/last. Look in magazines and you'll see many of the shots are cropped or cut to pieces to fit the format/page/layout anyway.

Kiteboy dave: yeah I was afraid there might be some compatibility issues with the width/height. That's something I'll have to think about changing but to be honest, most of todays notebook/desktops have 16:9 screens so probably won't happen.

It is kind of funny too how everyone here disses and dislikes the photos, when the riders themselves love the shots, and have bought several off me for mags, sponsors and promotion.
scoop
scoop
86 posts
86 posts
29 Apr 2009 7:09pm
What camera do you use?
DaveSpruce
DaveSpruce
WA
568 posts
WA, 568 posts
29 Apr 2009 7:30pm
Started out with a Nikon D40 and now I use a Nikon D300
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
29 Apr 2009 9:31pm
scoop said...

What camera do you use?


A Square One

KR

OceanBlue64
OceanBlue64
VIC
980 posts
VIC, 980 posts
29 Apr 2009 9:57pm
DaveSpruce said...

yeah I was afraid there might be some compatibility issues with the width/height. That's something I'll have to think about changing but to be honest, most of todays notebook/desktops have 16:9 screens so probably won't happen.




A good website layout should show well in most formats and browsers. If you use just css instead of the tables, you can get a far more flexible layout. BTW it shows fine on my standard screen (1280x1024 resolution) as well as my widescreen. Some nice photos too.
DaveSpruce
DaveSpruce
WA
568 posts
WA, 568 posts
29 Apr 2009 8:34pm
OceanBlue64 said...

DaveSpruce said...

yeah I was afraid there might be some compatibility issues with the width/height. That's something I'll have to think about changing but to be honest, most of todays notebook/desktops have 16:9 screens so probably won't happen.




A good website layout should show well in most formats and browsers. If you use just css instead of the tables, you can get a far more flexible layout. BTW it shows fine on my standard screen (1280x1024 resolution) as well as my widescreen. Some nice photos too.


Yeah I struggled with the tables, they just weren't doing what I wanted them too.. After a while thinking about it I cracked it and finally made it the way I wanted so not gonna re-design it now... and I don't know how to use CSS to get the layout I want so this will have to do..
Chris_M
Chris_M
2132 posts
2132 posts
29 Apr 2009 8:50pm
Hey Dave,
I know you have probably heard enough of this question but I am serious. What camera DO you use?

Cheers


Chris
scoop
scoop
86 posts
86 posts
29 Apr 2009 8:53pm
Keep it up Spruce. Ill be checking back. Keen to see what you come up with in the future
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Apr 2009 11:29pm
DaveSpruce said...
The reason I wrote the story in 3rd person is to make it less amateurish, less "I've done this website myself" kind of thing. Also bare in mind it's a "story" about me and not an autobiography. But since I have had sooo many people complaining about it I will change it. Spelling errors there may be as I wrote it all in one go (and I'm sorry that offended you Saffer, maybe I should have written it in one of the other 5 languages I speak) and was sick of the whole thing. Couldn't find a spell check in the software I was using and frankly didn't care as I just wanted to get it all online at that time. It's easier to update bits and pieces afterwards.


So you wrote it in the third person to look less amateurish and then didn't spell check it to make it less amateurish? Okay, that makes sense.

Thanks for letting us know that you speak 5 languages. Maybe you can add that to the story somewhere.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
29 Apr 2009 11:20pm
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
1 May 2009 12:20am
DaveSpruce said...

OceanBlue64 said...

DaveSpruce said...

yeah I was afraid there might be some compatibility issues with the width/height. That's something I'll have to think about changing but to be honest, most of todays notebook/desktops have 16:9 screens so probably won't happen.




A good website layout should show well in most formats and browsers. If you use just css instead of the tables, you can get a far more flexible layout. BTW it shows fine on my standard screen (1280x1024 resolution) as well as my widescreen. Some nice photos too.


Yeah I struggled with the tables, they just weren't doing what I wanted them too.. After a while thinking about it I cracked it and finally made it the way I wanted so not gonna re-design it now... and I don't know how to use CSS to get the layout I want so this will have to do..




You are making wrong assumptions dave. A LOT of laptops still run in smaller resolutions, and the number is growing as mini laptops become more popular. I running the latest lenovo yet I only see half your site.

Fix it. Fix it now.

Skwinty
Skwinty
WA
164 posts
WA, 164 posts
1 May 2009 12:00am
I knew you'd be back Sproose-Goose.

I saw this post (below) a little while ago and I thought I'd give you the benefit of the Doubt. Considering you created your own thread just to say " You wont, see me again here on Seabreeze"..... But deep down I new you'd be back.




getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
1 May 2009 12:21pm
Ha ha ha ha ha .. had to laff at rooey's comment
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
1 May 2009 6:54pm
Man this guy only brings it on himself.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Dave Spruce a real life example of what happens when one tries too hard.

Keep trying hard dave... freaking lol
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