Tangled up in blue

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waveslave
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19 Jan 2011 10:43pm
You are riding along quite happily ...
and then somehow you tangle up your lines with another kiter's strings.
It's a big mess.
What do you do ?
lol.


she studied the lines on my face
I must admit I felt a little uneasy
when she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe
tangled up in blue

*Bob Dylan.
eppo
eppo
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19 Jan 2011 11:25pm
Did this happen to you pete? When?
wave knave
wave knave
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19 Jan 2011 11:25pm
Into the blue
And faded world of my daydreams
I feel I'm falling deeper everyday
Melting away down a dark and endless abyss
I'm grasping at straws and I'm chasing the wind
As I fall on my face over and over
Into the blue

*Sara Jackson-Holman
eppo
eppo
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19 Jan 2011 11:26pm
Did this happen to you pete? When?
waveslave
waveslave
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20 Jan 2011 10:12am
No, it didn't happen to me. ^^^
This is a made-up scenario.
I'm simply asking the forum if they know what procedures to put into place when this situation occurs.
poor relative
poor relative
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20 Jan 2011 10:22am
Loop it
tightlines
tightlines
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20 Jan 2011 10:36am
So how long until this turns into a discussion about leashes?

"I shall be released"

Any day now, any day now
I shall be released.

Bob Dylan
Marvin
Marvin
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725 posts
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20 Jan 2011 10:41am
Isn't this about idiots and wind?

Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out quick but when they will I can only guess...

I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now I'm finally free
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me
You'll never know the hurt I suffered not the pain I raise above
And I'll never know the same about you your holiness or your kind of love
And it makes me feel so sorry...

People see me all the time and they just can't remember how to act
Their minds are filled with big ideas, images and distorted facts...

Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
Blowing down the backroads heading south
Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
You're an idiot babe
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.

Bob




waveslave
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20 Jan 2011 10:44am
Both kites are down but trying to relaunch retardedly by themselves.
The strings are fully intertwined.
Both riders are in the water and getting dragged and pulled closer together in the strong wind.
What should you do ?
waveslave
waveslave
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20 Jan 2011 10:55am
waveslave said...
What should you do ?


One of the first things you should do is disconnect your death-leash.


waveslave
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20 Jan 2011 11:08am
What other things should you be doing ?
dave......
dave......
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20 Jan 2011 11:13am
Cut the Euros lines, cause he turned before he looked
waveslave
waveslave
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20 Jan 2011 11:20am
Another thing to do is place your hand on the chicken-loop quick-release in preparation of pulling the trigger.
dave......
dave......
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20 Jan 2011 11:26am
And after you get in, take off all the wheels of the wicked van and leave them in a neat pile, Most of them arent supplied with jacks...(or functioning brakes,seatbelts etc).....
Poida
Poida
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20 Jan 2011 11:26am
waveslave said...

Another thing to do is place your hand on the chicken-loop quick-release in preparation of pulling the trigger.


then place your hand on the leash quick release in preparation, if its dragging you under

or

then self rescue
Bo
Bo
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20 Jan 2011 12:01pm
tightlines said...

So how long until this turns into a discussion about leashes?
"Any day now, any day now
I shall be released.


pintofpale
pintofpale
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20 Jan 2011 2:37pm
You are riding along quite happily ...
and then somehow your chicken loop slips off and the bar is pulled out of your hands. You have decided for your own safety after reading about it on the forum not to use a "death-leash". The kite and flaying lines are flying towards a bunch of children.
It's gonna be a big mess.

You realize you haven't renewed your insurance/membership
What do you do ?
lol.
Bo
Bo
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Bo Bo
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20 Jan 2011 12:14pm
waveslave said...

You are riding along quite happily ...
and then somehow you tangle up your lines with another kiter's strings.
It's a big mess.
What do you do ?

I'd not be riding along 'quite happily', I'd be very very wary. Avoid riding near other kiters/in crowded places or you'll end up:

"Poisened in the bushes, blown out on the trail
Hunted like a crocodile, ravaged in the corn..."
TurtleHunter
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20 Jan 2011 12:31pm
waveslave said...

waveslave said...
What should you do ?


One of the first things you should do is disconnect your death-leash.




turn your death leash into a safety leash first with a quick release
TurtleHunter
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20 Jan 2011 12:34pm
waveslave said...

What other things should you be doing ?


stay calm and work out a plan WITH the other kiter
TurtleHunter
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20 Jan 2011 12:40pm
waveslave said...

Another thing to do is place your hand on the chicken-loop quick-release in preparation of pulling the trigger.

why not just take it off and hold onto it if you need to go between the other kites lines.
BigBlock
BigBlock
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20 Jan 2011 12:54pm
I have seen this happen, at the SAKSA state titles on the weekend. One rider was standing on the beach ready to land his kite after the final heat(only 2 kites in the air) and on the water, second kiter wasn't paying attention and completely tangled the two kites. The rider that caused the tangle immediately ditched his kite before the guy on the beach knew what had happened and was dragged up the beach on 2 kites managed to get draged through one kite while the other continued to loop. Bunch on officials jumped on the rider and more headed for the kite. Happened that fast QR and line knife were useless. Rider was lucky to get out of it with just his knee badly damaged not sure how bad.
Mister Dugong
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20 Jan 2011 12:55pm
Assuming its a big mess and un-detangle-able....

use oh **** handle to flag kites completely whilst not losing them (coz saftey leash is not atttached and probably goes to two front lines as opposed to one)

create a ball of string..

pack kites up and take turns swimming horrible mess in for a couple hours.

drink beer edit and argue while kites are repaired.


au_rick
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20 Jan 2011 1:43pm
waveslave said...

You are riding along quite happily ...
and then somehow you tangle up your lines with another kiter's strings.
It's a big mess.
What do you do ?
lol.


she studied the lines on my face
I must admit I felt a little uneasy
when she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe
tangled up in blue

*Bob Dylan.



"the answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind"

*Bob Dylan.
Prawnhead
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20 Jan 2011 5:02pm

You are riding along quite happily ...
and then somehow you tangle up your lines with another kiter's strings.
It's a big mess.
What do you do ?
lol.





"There must be some kinda way out of here"
Said the joker to the thief
"There's too much confusion
I can't get no relief"

"No reason to get excited"
The thief, he kindly spoke
"There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke"

Two riders were approaching
And the wind began to howl, hey
(key world's greatest guitar solo ever hendrix version)

maybe bob has already covered this topic.....!
harry potter
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20 Jan 2011 7:34pm
Hitting your safety is not the safest way to deal with the situation (as one of the above posts demonstrates ). Releasing your safety just ends up with one lkiter being dragged by two looping kites ( sure if they are already looping and you are getting dragged... punch out but 9 times out of ten it occurs because one kite has flown through the others lines ... With a calm approach you will find most o the time you can still fly the kite to the waters surface with a degree of control it's important to communicate with the other tangled and attempt to put both kites at opposite ends of the wind window. ... Ie one out to the left one to the right until their wingtips are on the water by this time the two riders should be quite close together at which point it is possible to either swim through the other kiters lines to untangle or unhook and pass your bar through.

Every situation is different and you need to use your own common sense as to what is the best plan of action. If they are well tangled and you are going to release make sure the other kiter knows and has the opportunity to do so as well.
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
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527 posts
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20 Jan 2011 8:18pm
Broken lines broken strings
Broken threads broken springs
Broken idols broken heads
People sleeping in broken beds
Ain't no use jiving
Ain't no use joking
Everything is broken

Robert Zimmerman
ok
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ok ok
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20 Jan 2011 8:57pm
banana bread and lemonade wave slave u should try pole dancing if you dont already do it.
BigBlock
BigBlock
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20 Jan 2011 7:50pm
harry potter said...

Hitting your safety is not the safest way to deal with the situation (as one of the above posts demonstrates ). Releasing your safety just ends up with one lkiter being dragged by two looping kites ( sure if they are already looping and you are getting dragged... punch out but 9 times out of ten it occurs because one kite has flown through the others lines ... With a calm approach you will find most o the time you can still fly the kite to the waters surface with a degree of control it's important to communicate with the other tangled and attempt to put both kites at opposite ends of the wind window. ... Ie one out to the left one to the right until their wingtips are on the water by this time the two riders should be quite close together at which point it is possible to either swim through the other kiters lines to untangle or unhook and pass your bar through.

Every situation is different and you need to use your own common sense as to what is the best plan of action. If they are well tangled and you are going to release make sure the other kiter knows and has the opportunity to do so as well.


This would be ideal, but one factor to consider is that kite lines under tension crossing each other will burn the line and cause it to break if moved fast. So when positioning your kites slow is better.
if you do manage to get the tangle out you need to consider the possibility that you may break a line on the way back in. So depending how far you have to get back, body dragging may be the best option. Then check your lines once back, you will see the burnt lines easily.

Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
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20 Jan 2011 10:17pm
Why ask the question if you already know the answer slave?

Go and ask the noob forum :D
waveslave
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20 Jan 2011 10:08pm
Bigwavedave said...

Why ask the question if you already know the answer slave?


I'm not really asking anything. ^^^
I'm just theorizing and playing around on the internet game show.
Don't you want to play, Dave ?
There's always a chance you might learn something from these made-up scenarios.


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