Teaching your missus to kite

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Neill
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30 May 2007 11:20pm
Who's done it successfully? Mine is somewhat keen (sick of sitting on the beach watching me, bored) but has a bung shoulder that i suspect will be dislocated if she lands on it the wrong way. I think she would pick up the flying and balance part pretty quickly though, she's pretty smart and reasonably co-ordinated.

She only weighs like 47kg too, if she's properly interested I was thinking a 9m 2006 Waroo would be a decent one-kite quiver ranging for 10-20 knots, as anywhere above that and she would be too scared to go out. Thoughts on this kite?

I would be doing the teaching, as well as forcing her to watch multiple kiteboarding instructional DVD's there would be LOTS of safety lessons for probably 3-5 hours before I even got her out on the board.

So who's done it, and what kite do you guys recommend for a 47kg rider? Definately will be a bow with solid depower.

cheers,


Neill
chronic
chronic
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30 May 2007 11:27pm
neil
like if you've got young kids this will half your kite time....
but then again its an extra smaller kite in your quiver isn't it
Neill
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30 May 2007 11:58pm
you read my mind chronic

But my sonic will go anywhere from 12 to 27 knots (tested) and if it gets above 30 then I'd be worried no matter what kite I was flying

It will give me less time on the water as I teach her, but after about 10-12 hours I would expect her to be up and running, whereafter not much input is required from me directly. She can yell questions like "why is the kite flying backwards" and "does my arse look big in this kite" while i scream past upwind of her.

On the next pass I can deliver my carefully composed reply "you oversheeted it, ease the bar out a bit" and "your arse looks big in everything, this kite is no different" etc etc etc
Blaster
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30 May 2007 10:12pm
Neill my mate streamlined his learning on that very kite. I learnt the hard way getting slammed with my C kites. So when asked I suggested a 9m waroo along with others he spoke to independently that said the same.

He is up and doing straight runs after 4 sessions of about 2 hours max in unfavorable gusty winds. He had no kite flying experience previously.

To cut the crap, they seem like very good kites to learn and continue on till intermediate level. Some say that once your into handle passes and stuff they aren't so good. Horses for courses as usual. I've got my eyes set on the 10m bularoo baby..

GL and hope the relationship survives, if not at least keep the kite for ya own quiver

P.S. some reckon they invert easy, mates does only when the wind dies under about 10 knots off...
andyy
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31 May 2007 12:16am
haha REASONABLY co-ordinated.... Classic.
Neill
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31 May 2007 12:37am
you don't reckon she'd be too light for the 9m? don't really want to step down to a 7m bow cause they just don't fly in 12-15 really well.

9m 06 waroo's can be had fairly cheap, they seem pretty robust and user friendly too. I learnt on a 10 cabrinha CO2 and would NEVER teach a dainty female on a grunty C kite like that, just too hard to turn the power down. a reasonably small bow will do the job pretty well, and the 06 waroo seems like a good choice.
youngbull
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31 May 2007 12:56am
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Kitehard
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31 May 2007 12:05am
Hey Neill,

Save your relationship, we see loads of guys trying to teach their girlfriends and it almost always ends in tears. Same goes for dads teaching daughters.

A girlfriend will really "try one on" with her boyfriend when things aren't going as easily as she would have liked, whereas she will not do the same with an instructor and will be more open to critical feedback.

When the going gets tough she'll get criticism from her BF and critical feedback from an instructor, the difference is in the relationship dynamic. Most girls won't play the "I just can't do it" card on a stranger (instructor).

I know of people who have taught their partners successfully and I guess that depends upon the dynamics of your relationship.

Let her learn the basics on the specially adapted gear in a quality school and after a couple of lessons, when she has gotten up on the board for the first time, then you take over. Learning relaunch, self rescue, water start and upwind body dragging is better done by a school whilst you are out ripping it up.

Just my 2 bobs worth, have fun either way and don't push her into it, let her take it up at her own readiness.

Good winds,



Muxu
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31 May 2007 8:14am
Yep
For sure to save any trouble go with an instructor !!! I learned with an instructor and even that I'm still fighting with Dad !!! Always good reasons !!
Cheers
Marine
user
user
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31 May 2007 6:27am
It would be like teaching your wife/gf to drive !

Dont do it!

Listen to Kitehard.Have an easy life !
angie pangi
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31 May 2007 9:23am
Yep teaching you GF or wife is hard.

Paul and i had moments for sure when he was trying to teach me basic stuff. Actually we still have moments when he's trying to teach me new stuff!! HEHE

Maybe save the yelling and book her in with local IKO kite school. Atleast the 1st lesson anyway so she gets the understanding of it all, makes it easier for both of you.

Any good bow kite in that range would be good. The more she can get flying a trainier kite the better she will be as she moves up in sizes and the easier the board will become.

Hope this helps, good luck

angie

mrbonk
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31 May 2007 9:28am
quote:
Originally posted by Neill

Who's done it successfully?


I've done it. The hardest thing is knowing how hard to push, so she keeps progressing but doesn't get put off. She also needs to be totally honest about the fear factor. Sometimes, "I can't" really means "I'm afraid to", but unless she tells you (and, like most of us blokes, you can't read minds), you won't know the difference.

We started with a small 4-line foil (Ozone Little Devil 2.1M) on the beach. She already had a pretty good understanding of laying out lines and rigging up etc from helping me do it. Once she had a proper handle on that (meaning she could loop it etc without smashing it into the beach), we started body dragging on my smallest kite (2004 8M Nemesis) and progressed from there.

So, be patient, try not to lose your cool and above all, when she says she's had enough, call it quits. It'll be frustrating, trust me, but it's also a massive buzz when she gets up and successfully cruises away from you on the board.....I was grinning so hard my jaw was hurting
Mr float
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31 May 2007 9:42am
Originally posted by Neill

Who's done it successfully?


Peter Lynn ! I think I can remeber Fiona saying that she appreciated Pete designing a kite for her that others can enjoy too!

I can remember her saying alot of other things too that I shouldn't repeat here
Neill
Neill
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31 May 2007 10:43am
Sounds like some of you guys have fairly strained relationships! Just need to know when to back off, and never get frustrated when she says "I can't" (I was ready for that one!). I would hope that the relationship will stand the stress but perhaps a first lesson is the go, then I can take over from there.

Oh and you are all forgetting the critical part of having arguments: the make-up sex. It's almost worth it....... almost.
echostorm
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31 May 2007 10:54am
Kitehard is right on the money, use an instructor or better still say that kiting is really hard and dangerous. You seriously will spend less time on the water or more time in boring "safe" locations if u teach ya missus. Just teach her to cook ur dinner the way u like it instead ... just kidding girls.
Neill
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31 May 2007 11:11am
So what do you guys do with your girlfriend/wife when you're out kiting? Mine is sometimes content to sit on the beach and read a book, but sometimes gets really bored.

Hence why I was thinking of getting her into kiting...
dave......
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31 May 2007 9:22am
If they mess up get into a fist fight.....Yep this happened to a lovely couple at lucky bay this summer. Unless youve done a course you shouldnt be teaching anyone...Blindingly ingnorant "teachers" give the sport a bad name
xtortya
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31 May 2007 11:14am
i send my mrs to work. 8am till 9pm. 5 days a week. She likes to come down and watch on weekends or stay at home and bake.
NJPornstar
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31 May 2007 11:59am
Yeah give it a go teaching her.
I taught mine and its no worries. Shes great and goes out in fairly strong wind too.

But make sure she has a floaty jacket if she is the sort that may cry out in the water.
stamp
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31 May 2007 2:31pm
dont teach her anything; its bad enough that women are taught to read and write. they shouldnt be allowed to vote either.
i guess it depends on your relationship, i have heard of relationships almost coming to an end through learning to kite.
i have given my girlfriend a couple of lessons and she picked it up much quicker than me and with less hassle. i never push her to have a lesson or to keep going if she is not enjoying it. i use a 7m crossbow to teach her and always reinforce that it doesnt matter when she drops the kite (and try not to wince audibly when she slams it down).
looseunit
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31 May 2007 4:21pm
it might help if you had some time up yourself ,before you teach others how to kite this is the problem with kiting now days once they can stand up and go back an forth they think they can teach .get a couple of seasons up first
rooey
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31 May 2007 8:14pm
I ride shotgun with my sweet peach in the nissan zx whenever we go out drinkin,me drinken that is...so good, she take's responsibility for all my random action's...but when it come's to kite'ing and surfin she hang's on the beach lookin cute as she does...gee I wish she would kite...unload the gear...pump up the kite's...rig and unrigg...get the food happening...but it's not a perfect world
NeilT
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31 May 2007 10:54pm
Personally, I would recommend a PL Venom 10. At least if she's worried or confused she only has to let go and the kite won't go gaga but will just cruise back to overhead.

Also, get her some pro lessons..... it's just not worth the grief!!

cheers
Neil
Blaster
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31 May 2007 11:00pm
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Charl dv
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31 May 2007 11:03pm
y do u drag ur girls down to the beach to watch u kite. its like u try and force them to acknowledge ur kiting, if u wana have long sucessful seshns let them go out wid friends or go shoppin or sumfing. unless shes a stunnah then bring her down n flaunt it
stnkygoat
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1 Jun 2007 6:33am
quote:
Originally posted by Mr float

Originally posted by Neill

Who's done it successfully?


Peter Lynn ! I think I can remeber Fiona saying that she appreciated Pete designing a kite for her that others can enjoy too!

I can remember her saying alot of other things too that I shouldn't repeat here



Yeah I think his opinion is that he didn't so much as teach me, as just hand me the kite and walk out of earshot. This worked kind of well, except that I missed out on all the obvious stuff like launching and safety (no surprises there to anyone who has seen me kite). Actually, probably the person who really taught me to kite was Chris Brent - mainly because he was working alongside pete at the time and had a way shorter attention span for tantys. He was also pretty good at explaining stuff, so I guess my advice would be - teach your girlfriend, but teach her how to do it all not just get frustrated and hand the kite over cos you want to go out and kite yourself.
Neill
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1 Jun 2007 9:18am
All good suggestions and comments guys/girls, keep em coming!

After some suggestion and having a look at what others in that weight range are using, i reckon a 7m waroo is probably safer to start on for the little girls. That means i can use it as a storm kite when the going gets up near 30 knots too
GreenPat
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1 Jun 2007 9:24am
Dude, if she's 47kg and got a big arse, there mustn't be much to the rest of her...
ali
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1 Jun 2007 9:37am
My partners got a 9m Waroo and she loves it, it compliments my 12 and 14m quiver perfectly also. Now she's fairly competent at kiting i offer her advice when she asks rather than taking on the role of teacher! Just my experience!
meerkat
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1 Jun 2007 8:28am
7m is to small for you mate and that size kite starts to get in the "unable to keeps its flight characteristics" range when it gets really windy.

She will be learning in light winds and will need a fair amount of wind to get going. A 9m is probably better, then if she really hates it you can still use the kite regularly.
ltim
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1 Jun 2007 1:11pm
As an ex IKO instructor, teaching my girlfriend was not as good as kiting myself. We had some great moments away when she would ditch the kite and walk off, leaving me to retrieve a 9m drifting around some shrubs...

Better off using an ugly IKO kite instructor while you kite - therefore impressing your girlfriend and motivating her to get out there with you.

If there is anything she doesn't understand, help clarify and take the credit of putting the icing on the cake!

gOOD LUCK
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