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Pat.Mc
Pat.Mc
NSW
50 posts
NSW, 50 posts
27 Jun 2010 3:57pm
Hi guys,

I have been searching through the forum for some info that would give me an indication of what life is like as a kiteboard instructor but have had no joy in finding anything. Maybe you can give me an indication of what it is really like to start a career in this area. Been kiting for two seasons so far and have some experience teaching english, if that would help at all ~

Been working as an Engineer for the past 5-6 years and finding that it sucks ass for the most part. Maybe I am a dreamer but the office is sucking the life out of me and I need a change.

I am aiming to get accredited before this season starts so I can maybe find some work at the weekends to see if it is for me. My questions are:

1. What have your experiences been instructing. Positive/negative?

2. Is getting accredited abroad (eg Thailand) as good as getting accredited in Aus?

3. Is there much work around?

Any info/opinions on this would be much appreciated. The crossroads beckons

Cheers,

Pat
Dan Fletcher
Dan Fletcher
NSW
114 posts
NSW, 114 posts
27 Jun 2010 7:11pm
Hi Pat,
I’m only into my first year of kiteboarding, so I’m certainly not an instructor. Nevertheless, here are a few responses based on my previous experience with my instructor:
1. Good communication skills and being able to get along with all sorts of people is of course hugely important (this is where experience with teaching English will definitely come in handy). The student will learn best if they get along with you. I was lucky enough to have a good instructor.
2. If you get IKO accreditation, then the country in which you received accreditation shouldn’t matter at all.
3. Go where the work is. Most places are seasonal in terms of the number of kiters out on the water, so if you like travelling, go to where the wind is (if only I had that luxury!).
Good luck with becoming an instructor.
onemorehuey
onemorehuey
NSW
158 posts
NSW, 158 posts
27 Jun 2010 10:22pm
Life your dreams mate -

you only regret the things in life you dont do!
specimen
specimen
WA
221 posts
WA, 221 posts
27 Jun 2010 10:22pm
Depending on where you live, but can you imagine every afternoon in the Summer the wind is honking well in WA anyway and your mates are out their ripping it up and your on the bloody beach standing there teaching for hours and missing all that wind. Personally not for me.
If you want to kite more and get out of the office lifestyle get a Sales rep job that gives you the flexibilty to kite, theres plenty of them.
That's my opininon I reckon it would sux big time to teach, but hey it your choice buddy.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
28 Jun 2010 8:31am
What kind of engineer are you Pat? I'm a Civil Engineer specialising in Geotechnics, so I spend a lot of time outside on site, which offsets the soul-sucking that is the office. I also spend a lot of time doings swings on mine sites, which gives me lots of time in lieu which, at the moment, I use to complete my Masters but in the future I'll be using to let me do other things I want. Since being back in Australia I have regularly been going to PNG and have done a stint in NT, with some awesome experiences.

When I lived in the UK I was working on contract basis and got paid such good money I could afford to take 3 month breaks over summer and not worry about saving pennies while I was travelling. I was even lucky enough to land a contract that had me working on a tunnel for 12 hour shifts, after which I was only 30mins from the beach. (The sun goes down late in the UK during summer!) My first job back in Melbourne had me based in Mordialloc which meant I was on the beach at 5pm every afternoon the seabreeze came in.

I would listen to the guys here - being an instructor (kiteboarding, snowboarding) is not as great as it is cracked up to be. Invariably you are caught in a lesson while its blowing a perfect 20 knots or you have just had 1m of fresh powder dumped overnight.

Sounds like you need a change within your career to get you inspired. Find a job within your profession that gives you the flexibility to pursue your favourite activities. The great thing about being an engineer is that your skills are in demand pretty much everywhere and you get paid well for it.

Either that, or save up take a break for a few months and head off to somewhere where the conditions are great and you can afford not to work for a few months. An engineer with 5-6 years of experience should be able to manage that pretty easily, you just have to "keep your eye on the prize"
J inthe bool
J inthe bool
VIC
105 posts
VIC, 105 posts
28 Jun 2010 5:48pm
Hi Pat01,

I’m in a similar boat as lostinlondon....
I work in the same industry, but I have set myself up as Designer/supervisor with a local council... so I’m out of the office heaps..... I seem to have a lot of site inspections down at the local kite beach......!!! hehe
A change of pace is nice... during day light savings, I’m on the water by 4.30ish most days, and my RDOs are scheduled around the wind.
As far as instructing goes (I’m not IKO), it does get a little frustrating when you’re missing out on another epic session... I only do it as a hobby and to help cover the cost of my own gear, so I can upgrade when I want.

Good luck with the dream (would be great to teach in the morning’s 10-15knots then if it cranks in... cancel lessions and have a blast)


Does anyone know when the next IKO course is on in AUS..?
79Boarder
79Boarder
NSW
94 posts
NSW, 94 posts
28 Jun 2010 6:58pm
Pat01 said...

Hi guys,

Been working as an Engineer for the past 5-6 years and finding that it sucks ass for the most part. Maybe I am a dreamer but the office is sucking the life out of me and I need a change.



I know exactly where you are coming from. I am in exactly the same position. I had the brain explosion this week that if I work for a company that installs wind turbines they would just send me to all the windiest places on earth to work...
The best you can do is save heaps while working as an engineer and go on kiting holidays.
Good luck.
kitesurfbali
kitesurfbali
WA
531 posts
WA, 531 posts
28 Jun 2010 6:03pm
Use to have 2 schools....
Gave them both away!!!
1- One of the worst job ever...
Every time there is wind you are teaching... Never get to kite!!!
And I guarantee that after 4-5 hours of teaching even if the wind is good you don't want to see a kite from a mile away...

When there is no wind you sit on the beach and everyone want only to talk about kite!

2- you can be accredited anywhere you like but try to get a serious one..

3- there is allot of work if you are willing to work for free....
I receive so many request of people that would like to work in Bali and they only want a bed and some food...

If you are in your 20's and want to travel the world then is ok..

As a real profession it suck!!!

Bye Jankie
Jeff2231
Jeff2231
NSW
416 posts
NSW, 416 posts
29 Jun 2010 1:31pm
Hey Pat,

I did the instructing thing for a bit and while it is cool to be on the beach teaching it does get pretty hard watching everyone ripping on the water while you're stuck on the beach.

Add in the fact that you're in the sun every day, you cop windburn on your lips because you dont have your back to the wind while riding and you're half blind because you spend hours on end staring up into the sun at your students kites.

Plus I still get requests from friends of friends of friends asking for free/cheap lessons 5 years after I quit (the money was actually pretty good though for a full priced lesson).

I think it was a good experience for a season, even though it was probably the least amount of kiting I've done since I started kiteboarding. And I still get stoked when I see people that were students absolutely frothing on the sport this far on. The rewards can be worth it, but it's not all it cracked up to be.

Bnaccas
Bnaccas
VIC
1722 posts
VIC, 1722 posts
30 Jun 2010 11:18pm
I started a school in Melbourne with a mate in Summer 1998 (maybe 1999) and it lasted 4 months for the
same reason everyone else has mentioned. It sucked watching others on the water while I was teaching.
Not that there was many people doing it. But also back then you had to continually move bookings around
due to the wind as the wind range on the old 2 line Wipika Classic was pretty small.
olitwist
olitwist
VIC
56 posts
VIC, 56 posts
3 Jul 2010 10:40am
Dude just do it! Travel the world and get what you want from life.

I am in my 4th season of teaching and I frickin' love my life right now. I have been travelling for nearly 2 years and have done 2 seasons in Vic, 1 in FNQ, and I'm now in the Caribbean. I am living the dream and I wouldn't change it.

Yeah it sucks when your mates are kiting and you have to teach - that will always happen to some extent. The solution is to go to places that are always windy and you will still find you have plenty of time to kite as well as teach.

Yeah the money is not great - that can be a problem when there's no wind. The solution is to get yourself a little part-time job or some kind of skill that you can sell, and that you can turn to when there's no wind.

Do it for a few years and travel the world for free. You'll meet so many interesting people along the way and get to kite the best spots in the world if you're smart.

Good luck
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
7 Jul 2010 1:32pm
Hi Pat. just wondering what you ended up deciding.

Seems like you would have a good idea of the costs involved for insurance and accreditation stuff? I've heard it costs a **** load is that true? Also heard that if a single claim was paid then the insuring company would be bankrupted, meaning that the insuring company can't actually cover a single incident. Is that true?

I have no idea about it myself, just (possibly uninformed) talk I've heard on the beach. What would the insurance options be? IKO or AKSA I guess.. How do they compare? Is there a valid argument for not being insured and just being really careful? Would that be against some law?

interested to hear from anyone in the know
Pat.Mc
Pat.Mc
NSW
50 posts
NSW, 50 posts
9 Jul 2010 6:02pm
All,

Thanks guys for all the opinions and info. They definately shed some light on the subject and I think I am not looking at the idea in such a rose tinted mannor any more. The answer - a job with flexi time :)

I don't think it would be a satisfying career being instructor. Not for me anyway. Was considering it but when you look into it the job doesn't seem that flash. There seems to be too many negatives.

Smedg - I havn't looked into these issues as regards insurance. But I think the course costs about $800 or so.

Olitwist - your situation sounds sweet, however I've spent good chunks of my 20's travelling already so not too keen on continuing that trend. Just turned 30 so must be freeking out a bit

Cheers,
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