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sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
28 Jan 2010 10:59am
Abit of Australian hospitality,

Met this German tourist down at Brighton, good bloke very friendly and good kiter too.

My mate invited him for the week end at wedge Island, scored perfect conditions and massive downwinders(I thing he was stoked).

Another mate was heading down south to walpole for a few days and invited our new German mate, greatkiting again (I think he was stoked).

He decided to check Margs on his way back up to Perth, scored big margs main break and scared the hell out of him (I think he was stoked).

Back in Perth, we went kiting again down brighton (I think he was stoked).

Decided to head to Lancelin, he new of the tense situation with some windsurfers so made sure to rig away from the grass and made a point to not steal any waves.

Came back to his rental car in the carpark to find out that some low life scum had keyed the panels the full length of the car on both side

Since it was a cheap rental deal, he is not covered and has to spend $1500 at the local panel beater before he can hand the car back.

I am affraid that all the good Karma we would have built by sharing our magical backyard could have benn wasted by some exessive localism

Very, very, very sad, oh and if I ever catch someone keying my car, there will be a shallow grave on the beach.
Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse
WA
592 posts
WA, 592 posts
28 Jan 2010 11:07am
Dirty feckin B**tards

Feel for your mate, that's just rediculous.

D
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
28 Jan 2010 2:25pm
That sucks to hear, we didn't have any problems last weekend but we were also parked down on the beach.
loverboy
loverboy
WA
614 posts
WA, 614 posts
28 Jan 2010 11:33am
localism sucks....i am sick of hearing stories like this

2 things-

if you aren't local ask

if you are local communicate

then we can all get along.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
28 Jan 2010 2:48pm
I think we all suspect who it was, the big question is how long will people wait before they complain to the council and ensure that Werner loses his license. It seems its the only way he will learn.
trevor1
trevor1
WA
598 posts
WA, 598 posts
28 Jan 2010 1:56pm
and reported to the Police ?
Elroy Jetson
Elroy Jetson
WA
706 posts
WA, 706 posts
28 Jan 2010 3:00pm
Because it was very obviously scratched (to the metal in some places) the German kiter noticed it and reported it straight away at the cop shop.

It happened during the week. He was the only kitesurfer out with 3 other windsurfers and he said it was pretty quiet, plenty of space and did his own thing away from them.

The police told him that they had never had anything like this before.

The well travelled German kiter (previously a windsurfer but found it cost prohibitive for him to travel with all the necessary gear) thought he was just unlucky and that it could have happened anywhere in the world.

We explained about localism at Lano and that carpark was probably the worse place to park your car if you are a lone kiter. For a few days he thought we were joking - maybe because he was previously an experienced windsurfer and identifies with both sports.
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
28 Jan 2010 3:54pm
blah, blah, blah. Look, i've kited lano regularly for a few years now, never once have i had a problem with the mighty german and his peanut gallery . You don't have to go near them "on land", as for out on the ocean, do the right thing and chill out when someone makes a mistake, if a poley starts snakeing you, do the same back, they hate it far more than us because of there slug like mobility.
I was up there last weekend and i think there's a bigger problem looming, blow in euro kiters !!!!!!!!!
If your german friend is a great guy, perhap's someone should of told him not park there.
What happened to this guys car is well out of order and i'm sure it will add more fuel to the fire, Herman and his hermits are running scared at the mo but proof is what is needed. The local police we're even asking for kite lessons, the circle of life will win !
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
28 Jan 2010 5:14pm
Mate^^^^^,

I never pointed the finger at anyone as I certainly wasn't there to see who comited the act.

Does that make it an acceptable act? He should park somewhere else,you reckon?

Oh, sorry I forget, he is a Euro Tourist.Well so was your dad and I sincerely hope that he got a better reception when he arived on our shores

The whole Euro thing is an absolute disgrace, imagine if you were single out as an aussie every time you go skiing somewhere and the local trashed your car.Would you enjoy that?

Us kiters are actually a very small community so if you can't share the good vibe and maybe help the tourist gain some local knowledge and avoid trouble, you should change sport and go for something where you can chanel your agro better.

Unfortunately, you are not alone either based on the green thumbs so good luck to yous all and enjoy your next trip to Bali.
Elroy Jetson
Elroy Jetson
WA
706 posts
WA, 706 posts
28 Jan 2010 5:37pm
the walks said...

blah, blah, blah. Look, i've kited lano regularly for a few years now, never once have i had a problem with the mighty german and his peanut gallery .


Generation Me: So you don't mind what happens to fellow kiters as long as it happens to someone else and continues not to affect you personally into the future?

the walks said...

The local police we're even asking for kite lessons, the circle of life will win !


Agree: Our German friend was once an experienced windsurfer.
Natural
Natural
12 posts
12 posts
28 Jan 2010 5:37pm
water skiing areas use to have signs at every boat ramp explaining the rules of the spot, this will stop alot of agro between all water users! WAKSA should be shorting this with the local councils.
beefarmer
beefarmer
WA
328 posts
WA, 328 posts
28 Jan 2010 7:51pm
Well our German friend has had a great time, met a bunch of friendly kiters, had a great trip to wedge and walpole and margs and wedge again soon no doubt... so it sucks he got his car key'd, but overall i reakon he'll go home with a smile on his dial despite this. And its at least partly thanks to us, the friendly kite community in WA, so thanks guys, keep up the good work
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
28 Jan 2010 8:34pm
the walks said...

blah, blah, blah. Look, i've kited lano regularly for a few years now, never once have i had a problem with the mighty german and his peanut gallery . You don't have to go near them "on land", as for out on the ocean, do the right thing and chill out when someone makes a mistake, if a poley starts snakeing you, do the same back, they hate it far more than us because of there slug like mobility.
I was up there last weekend and i think there's a bigger problem looming, blow in euro kiters !!!!!!!!!
If your german friend is a great guy, perhap's someone should of told him not park there.
What happened to this guys car is well out of order and i'm sure it will add more fuel to the fire, Herman and his hermits are running scared at the mo but proof is what is needed. The local police we're even asking for kite lessons, the circle of life will win !


Whats that funny accent of yours again Tony?
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
28 Jan 2010 11:38pm
true blue english ray, but no blow-in, no forum junkie either, i just try to do my bit and give an opinion, if that upsets someone or body i'm big enough to say sorry !!!
whoops, sorry, i think !!!!!!!!!! oh s#it, where's that real world again.
bingles
bingles
WA
363 posts
WA, 363 posts
29 Jan 2010 7:49am
So which of these blow in teuro's are you referring to?? cos if it was my spanish mates, i'd like to know. These guys are some of the nicest guys i have met. And i will continue to show them the beautiful spots around perth.
Benz
Benz
WA
110 posts
WA, 110 posts
29 Jan 2010 8:37am
Lancelin needs new slogan


lano the place is a REAL HOT SPOT.................................................



Lano the place is.............
Bully
Bully
WA
170 posts
WA, 170 posts
29 Jan 2010 9:44am
Benz said...

Lancelin needs new slogan


lano the place is a REAL HOT SPOT.................................................



Lano the place is.............


Lano the place is ACE...well it is if you bugger off a few k's up the beach and get a patch to yourself

Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
29 Jan 2010 1:07pm
Bully said...

Benz said...

Lancelin needs new slogan


lano the place is a REAL HOT SPOT.................................................



Lano the place is.............


Lano the place is ACE...well it is if you bugger off a few k's up the beach and get a patch to yourself




The major issue is you shouldn't have to because of one douche who thinks he owns the beach. What disturbs me more is the fact that he can come along swearing and people and the parks guys support him. Whether he is right or wrong, the parks people should be telling him stop swearing and penalising him for his behaviour and throwing tantrums in public. He's tried to run people down on the water before, thats beyond abuse in public, its downright dangerous.

If its an issue with people kiting in the wrong areas, then if he had any common courtesy, he would walk up to someone and say "sorry, mate, you can't kite here, please move there and you'll be fine" not "F7ck off" and the latter is likely to be more positive for Lano itself as a location and leave people with a positive experience of the place. The council's support of him isn't helping much either, because instead of punishing him for his behaviour, they've supported him by giving windsurfers access to the spot and forcing kiters away. If you support bad behaviour, then people continue to think they can get away with it.

The only place in Aus that consistently has these issues is Lano, there is a post once every 3 months about problems there and generally with one person. That means one of two things:

1. There is a problem with Werner
2. Every kiter who goes to Lano instantly gets a dickwad personality

I'm kind of guessing that the latter is not the likely scenario unless Lano has something in the water that makes kiters become dickwads.
Idiot
Idiot
WA
577 posts
WA, 577 posts
29 Jan 2010 10:43am
Each time I'm reading a topic about Lancelin my blood starts to boiling.

I told my self 10 times to just don't read the sad stories about Lancelin but I'm always curious to see how one person is able to torture all of us mentally and physically

I wish him a hard & painful cancer but not death as he have all the rights to have a long life (with cancer).
AMEN
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
29 Jan 2010 11:22am
sounds like a good spot to hold kitestock this year
jas73
jas73
QLD
796 posts
QLD, 796 posts
29 Jan 2010 1:26pm
This is a really sad issue to read. I couldnt imagine having one person dishing out so much greif to a comunity. Maby he is frustrated because he is just so slow and cant work out how to kite. Try offering him lessons for free and he might turn into a nice guy. Or you could always send him to Queensland to see how far his tantrums get him over here.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
29 Jan 2010 12:14pm
Yep,

I vote Lano for nest Kitestock. It would be hilarious to see Werners face when 200+ kiters show up for a weekend. Can we put the main tents etc on the grass area please?

He's a frustrated old poley stuck in a time warp of the 80's when windsurfing was big and even considered cool. We should "pity the fool" to borrow a quote from BA Baracus of A-Team.

Take comfort in the fact that he's old and can't do it forever. [}:)] And Lano will become the Epicenter of kiting in WA. The Government even built a shiny new road up there so downwinders to Wedge are possible with a 2 wheel drive

If Werner did key the car, he should be brought to justice. That's just wrong and cowardly.

KH
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
29 Jan 2010 3:15pm
Idiot said...

Each time I'm reading a topic about Lancelin my blood starts to boiling.

I told my self 10 times to just don't read the sad stories about Lancelin but I'm always curious to see how one person is able to torture all of us mentally and physically

I wish him a hard & painful cancer but not death as he have all the rights to have a long life (with cancer).
AMEN


The person that you speak of has issues it seems, and we understand your frustration, but your wish for him seems a bit much.My father and other good people I know suffered terribly from cancer .it is something that I would not wish for for anyone really
dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
29 Jan 2010 12:21pm
Kitehard said...
[ The Government even built a shiny new road up there so downwinders to Wedge are possible with a 2 wheel drive


by shiny you mean a dirt road that is not offically open yet and the only time you can travel on it without copping grief is at night then yes its a shiny new road . And i would like to see a two wheel drive get onto the beach north of wedge without any issues as well
Weta
Weta
WA
893 posts
WA, 893 posts
29 Jan 2010 1:07pm
I think a bit of a long bow has been drawn here>>>

I doubt the original post was intended to incite anti werner sentiment.........

I have been Kiting in Lano a few times this summer, been blown downwind past the poleys park, walked back upwind in front of the park and even had someone who was assisting me land my kite in front of the surf lifesaving tower on the grass. Not one word was said to me..............

Im heading back up to Lano this weekend, i wouldn't be if it was as bad as some of you make out!!!!
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
29 Jan 2010 1:09pm
sounds like a witch hunt
no proof
no one saw the person doing it

good idea for kitestock at lano though
michel
michel
NSW
413 posts
NSW, 413 posts
29 Jan 2010 4:15pm
kitestock @ lano would be the best retaliation, and the local panel beater would love it !how come no-one has taken this nazi out yet ,bring in the Americans to get rid of this dick-tator
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
29 Jan 2010 4:24pm
Since nobody saw Werner do anything I don't think anyone should be talking about bringing him to task on this. It seems that there generally is an excessive amount of dickhead behaviour that occurs in WA beach carparks from Woodies to Scarbs to Lano.

I have only been there once, was blown downwind past the club, had a guy in a tinny rescue me because I was being blown crosshore in a fading breeze. I even went up to the park and used the shower afterwards with no troubles!

Maybe a local kitesurf club could be set up with similar facilities and if the application is denied you could say that you aren't being granted equitable treatment.

Why do most of these issues seem to happen in WA? I have never heard of dramas in say, Queensland. (On SB anyway) NSW and VIC have a few dramas (mostly related to people riding in officially banned areas where common sense clearly prevails ie. riding Bondi or landing outside the St Kilda seabaths), but WA, despite its abundance of space, low population, masses of kiteable coast and perhaps the worlds most reliable seabreezes seems to have a disproportionate amount of problems.

This is a shame, because every time I have been over there, I have a spectacular time, see some amazing scenery and run into as friendly a bunch of crew as you hope to find anywhere (was down at Margs over New Years, riding out of Augusta, top bunch of people)
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
29 Jan 2010 4:36pm
The only thing I found lancelin was good for was fuel, pizza and to put air back into the tyres ( of and the awesome dune driving ) As a kiting spot o found it to be quite average that being said that werner guy is a cock..... Perhaps a handfull of old praws could be thrown into his van each time anyone visits then again The guy is an out and out bully and would probably only respond to being physically threatened. I know this is not in most kiters nature but surely if a few blokes bailed him up one night while he is packing up.... No violence required just a bit of intimidation........ Oh and remember to mention the war
Weta
Weta
WA
893 posts
WA, 893 posts
29 Jan 2010 2:00pm
The person in question is from Switzerland...............they were Nuetral during the WAR!!!
lurch
lurch
WA
312 posts
WA, 312 posts
29 Jan 2010 2:07pm
The local police we're even asking for kite lessons, the circle of life will win

Yep, gave them a hand yesterday and a few tips. The coppers are new to town and keen as mustard to get into it, good blokes too. I'm looking forward to seeing how our german friend and the shire rangers will approach them if they dare to enter the windsurfing domain!
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