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tikityboo
tikityboo
WA
16 posts
WA, 16 posts
23 Jan 2012 8:57pm
Kitesurfing is awesome, I love it, nobody owns the ocean, everyone who wants to has the right to kite. But just lately the numbers of beginners is off the scale, there's that many learners at the suck it and see stage its scary.
Perth's kite shops must be doing a roaring trade, i've never seen so many shiny new kites. Unfortunately I am seeing large numbers of people with board leashes, I was taught these were dangerous. We are not exactly zero harm zero incident in this sport at the best of times.
Whether or not you agree about board leashes, BETTER TRAINED KITERS can only be a good thing. Learning to body drag up wind is not that hard, practicing this will teach better kite control as well as correct technique , which can only be a good thing. If you can't body drag up wind perhaps your not ready to try with the board just yet. Not everyone can be zero to hero, people learn at different speeds, some people need to take smaller steps. The learning period is not that painful if your dedicated, good kite control before moving on to the distraction of the board will help many learners.
Awareness of kite etiquette such as looking before turning, the ability to raise or lower your kite when on opposing tacks is good practice ( granted its hard to raise or lower your kite when first learning )

something needs to change if we carry on as we are the potential for disaster is too high.

CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ONLY PLEASE ( ha ha ) concerned local
Technologic
Technologic
WA
17 posts
WA, 17 posts
23 Jan 2012 9:39pm
Could it be a problem in that sometimes people are trying to save money by minimising the number of lessons they have? Plenty of people would get into Kitesurfing thinking that they can enjoy the thrill of Snowboarding without having to pay stupid amounts of cash for gear, lift passes, accomodation, travel expenses etc. Then of course they are told that they need $500 worth of lessons before they're ready to start buying gear and plenty of punters would think that they're all good after they've done a bit of body dragging down wind so they head out and buy their gear instead of forking out another $300-$500 on lessons they figure they won't need.

I'm pretty new to the sport but surely body dragging up wind is one of the easiest things to master for a beginner and it helps you practice in terms of flying the kite one-handed and also landing the kite safety. It amazes me that people can't do it.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
24 Jan 2012 12:59am


Blah blah blah

Wah wah wah

There's too many learners

Ones got ten posts, ones got seven

I bet you're both at the sucky get in the way learner stage and piss off everybody at your local
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
23 Jan 2012 10:41pm
Looks like you got your constructive critasium people welcome to seabreeze make sure your skin is thick, or have a box of tissues close by there is a lot of love that gets shared around......

[}:)]
tikityboo
tikityboo
WA
16 posts
WA, 16 posts
23 Jan 2012 11:26pm
Don't worrie about the doctor, he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
23 Jan 2012 11:40pm
tikityboo said...

Don't worrie about the doctor, he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box


he is the most twisted though
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
24 Jan 2012 6:13am
How would you all feel about becoming a registered kiter?
Oh wait….
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
24 Jan 2012 7:27am
How many times does it have to be said people!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tell anybody, hell tell everybody.........

kitsurfing is dangerous, is extremely hard to learn, is expensive, you need
to go to the gym 5 days a week to do it, helps if your Gay to fit in
with other kiters, sharks everywhere sometimes your got to weave in
and out of them, and be missing a chromosome [}:)]

this is guaranteed to keep beach free of shore creepers,has worked at my local
for years now

terryzarmzof
terryzarmzof
QLD
336 posts
QLD, 336 posts
24 Jan 2012 6:44am
Sharks?
ACT? Beach?
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
24 Jan 2012 7:52am
terryzarmzof said...

Sharks?
ACT? Beach?


have car, will travel ,though is hot in yellow suit with no air con

sometimes uncle Ronald takes me but only short stays cause he's got
fair skin
tikityboo
tikityboo
WA
16 posts
WA, 16 posts
24 Jan 2012 5:59am
Fair enough. Bring on the winter, strong winds, decent swells and hopfully empty beaches. Next season is going to be good too, properly the best ever. I can't wait.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
24 Jan 2012 12:49pm
TurtleHunter said...

tikityboo said...

Don't worrie about the doctor, he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box


he is the most twisted though


theDoctor is well out of the box
tatkins
tatkins
QLD
344 posts
QLD, 344 posts
24 Jan 2012 11:54am
theDoctor said...

TurtleHunter said...

tikityboo said...

Don't worrie about the doctor, he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box


he is the most twisted though


theDoctor is well out of the box


Bring on winter
grillsy
grillsy
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
24 Jan 2012 12:09pm
Like it not the sport will continue to become more and more popular. If you would prefer it to remain a bit of an elitist sport accessible to few then you must also be prepared for the inevitable high prices of equipment that come without volume sales. This applies to all products including Kite Gear.....do you remember how much you paid for a plasma TV 10 years ago....
More participants mean more kites and boards sold which means more opportunities for more retailers to come into the market which mean cheaper prices...Get used to it guys
kaleidoscope
kaleidoscope
NSW
132 posts
NSW, 132 posts
24 Jan 2012 1:48pm
hamburglar said...


has worked at my local
for years now


Are you sure this is the reason people are scared away from your local where YOU kite
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
24 Jan 2012 10:59am
Couldn't agree more, this means it's time to raise awareness and educate people on the beach systematically. I don't think any of these beginners will read our forum posts...so it's all about taking actions on the field. If I see a board leash I tell them to go visit : kiteboardleash.com ... if they're not convinced after that I don't know what will...
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
24 Jan 2012 2:05pm
kaleidoscope said...

hamburglar said...


has worked at my local
for years now


Are you sure this is the reason people are scared away from your local where YOU kite


amongst other things yes it is,more than 6 kiters on 20 odd ks of beach
and i feel kiteophobic, like you know all cramped in
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
24 Jan 2012 2:07pm
theDoctor said...

TurtleHunter said...

tikityboo said...

Don't worrie about the doctor, he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the box


he is the most twisted though


theDoctor is well out of the box


i think the word your searching for is Closet
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
24 Jan 2012 2:11pm
grillsy said...

Like it not the sport will continue to become more and more popular. If you would prefer it to remain a bit of an elitist sport accessible to few then you must also be prepared for the inevitable high prices of equipment that come without volume sales. This applies to all products including Kite Gear.....do you remember how much you paid for a plasma TV 10 years ago....
More participants mean more kites and boards sold which means more opportunities for more retailers to come into the market which mean cheaper prices...Get used to it guys


i'd pay twice as much to no have dickhead blowins kiting through the
flags or taking up the surf break mowing the lawn and waving to the
spectators . Just tell them what i said
Stevo J
Stevo J
WA
109 posts
WA, 109 posts
24 Jan 2012 11:42am
The explosion of numbers this year is just insane. Even as recently as last season there were plenty of days when there were just two or three of us out at Trigg - now you can hardly ever self launch for the sheer number of kites on the beach
There's nothing we can do to stop it people, the writings on the wall so enjoy it while it lasts...
thestig
thestig
NSW
22 posts
NSW, 22 posts
24 Jan 2012 3:01pm
If you're so much better than them just stay the f$%# away from them and you can't go wrong. I always suss out who I'm not going to stand near whenever I rock up at a beach. Learn a bit of defensive kiting the same way you do on the road and predict what people are going to do. Its not hard.

We were all crap once and we are all crap compared to someone more pro.
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
24 Jan 2012 12:13pm
thestig said...

If you're so much better than them just stay the f$%# away from them and you can't go wrong. I always suss out who I'm not going to stand near whenever I rock up at a beach. Learn a bit of defensive kiting the same way you do on the road and predict what people are going to do. Its not hard.

We were all crap once and we are all crap compared to someone more pro.


Someone who tells it like it is.... Refreshing!.....

If you are switched on and have good skills then you will be able to stay away from trouble. Defensive kiting is the way to go..
dbabicwa
dbabicwa
WA
809 posts
WA, 809 posts
24 Jan 2012 6:49pm
Technologic said...

Plenty of people would get into Kitesurfing thinking that they can enjoy the thrill of Snowboarding without having to pay stupid amounts of cash for gear, lift passes, accomodation, travel expenses etc.


Kitesurfing compared with skiing/snowboarding?

Some kids start skiing when 3-4 years old, hooked with a leash to one parent. And doing it from the top of the mountain on the black slope/piste. Hardly any sport can be compared with this:)

Expenses: some do exactly the same for kiting. At the end, takes months to do the same hours on the water compared with skiing in a 7-10 days (8.5hrs kiting for me this month is one single day of snowboarding:)

Even taking a kiting trip sometimes is kite-waiting...
D3
D3
WA
1592 posts
D3 D3
WA, 1592 posts
25 Jan 2012 1:34am
hamburglar said...

How many times does it have to be said people!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tell anybody, hell tell everybody.........

kitsurfing is dangerous, is extremely hard to learn, is expensive, you need
to go to the gym 5 days a week to do it, helps if your Gay to fit in
with other kiters, sharks everywhere sometimes your got to weave in
and out of them, and be missing a chromosome [}:)]

this is guaranteed to keep beach free of shore creepers,has worked at my local
for years now




I'm impressed, you're either concerned about sharks on Lake Burley Girffin or you make a roadtrip to the beach, you know something Australia has more than 10,000km of?, and you're worried about getting crowded out by other people who enjoy the same sport you do.

I wonder what your thoughts are on competition in kiting? or is that too crowded as well?

And dude? if you've got to go to a gym that often to make sure you're fit enough to kite just for recreation. I'd say you're doing something wrong somewhere

bobajob
bobajob
QLD
1535 posts
QLD, 1535 posts
25 Jan 2012 6:06am
thestig said...

If you're so much better than them just stay the f$%# away from them and you can't go wrong. I always suss out who I'm not going to stand near whenever I rock up at a beach. Learn a bit of defensive kiting the same way you do on the road and predict what people are going to do. Its not hard.

We were all crap once and we are all crap compared to someone more pro.


Not me man!
I was born smokin'
When I rock up, people get out of the water to watch and learn.
It's all about the respect, the dream.....

...Then I wake up...to mow the lawn
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
25 Jan 2012 8:07am
D3 said...

hamburglar said...

How many times does it have to be said people!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tell anybody, hell tell everybody.........

kitsurfing is dangerous, is extremely hard to learn, is expensive, you need
to go to the gym 5 days a week to do it, helps if your Gay to fit in
with other kiters, sharks everywhere sometimes your got to weave in
and out of them, and be missing a chromosome [}:)]

this is guaranteed to keep beach free of shore creepers,has worked at my local
for years now




I'm impressed, you're either concerned about sharks on Lake Burley Girffin or you make a roadtrip to the beach, you know something Australia has more than 10,000km of?, and you're worried about getting crowded out by other people who enjoy the same sport you do.

I wonder what your thoughts are on competition in kiting? or is that too crowded as well?

And dude? if you've got to go to a gym that often to make sure you're fit enough to kite just for recreation. I'd say you're doing something wrong somewhere



Man one day you'll thank me for keeping the beach clear of try hard want to be's
with there "look at me ,look at me" attitude . just check out WA situation every
second thead is wahh wahh this and cry cry that.

10 000ks of shore line with only limited areas suitable for kiting depending on wind directions ,kind of like comparing road stat's to shark attacks, ppffftt.

Competition kiting is usually a well organised controlled event "this is good"

I'm always doing 425ml arm curls any time after 12pm at my local gym

can you "please explain "what i'm doing wrong as i'm at a loss to what you mean?

the Burglar

D3
D3
WA
1592 posts
D3 D3
WA, 1592 posts
25 Jan 2012 2:33pm



Man one day you'll thank me for keeping the beach clear of try hard want to be's
with there "look at me ,look at me" attitude . just check out WA situation every
second thead is wahh wahh this and cry cry that.

10 000ks of shore line with only limited areas suitable for kiting depending on wind directions ,kind of like comparing road stat's to shark attacks, ppffftt.

Competition kiting is usually a well organised controlled event "this is good"

I'm always doing 425ml arm curls any time after 12pm at my local gym

can you "please explain "what i'm doing wrong as i'm at a loss to what you mean?

the Burglar




I kite at Penguin Island and Safety Bay over here, regularly more than 20 kites out there. They don't cause me any problems, even the half dozen learners body taking lessons right in shallows. In fact most people don't have problem with it, otherwise they'd be kiting somewhere else. also makes the post session BBQ's more fun

I suppose I don't mind the crowding, means more people to learn from and if I do want some space I don't mind roadtripping a couple hours to check out a new spot.

The comment about the gym got my goat a bit, none of the sports I've taken up for recreation have required me to go to the gym just to participate (part of the attraction is that they are enough of a work out I don't need to go to a gym to keep fit). Kiting is no different for me, the thought that I'd need to spend at least 5 hours a week at a gym just to be able do something for fun just doesn't seem right to me. Maybe if I was competing regularly i'd be working out to gain that competitive edge, but that's just my thoughts on that.

And there are always going to be people showing off in every sport, kiting just attracts more because it is such a flambouyant activity to start with, it's the nature of the beast. But if you really want to keep the beaches clear of people with the "look at me!, Look at me!" attitude, could you start with Jetskis?
nosmas
nosmas
WA
53 posts
WA, 53 posts
25 Jan 2012 3:48pm

hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
26 Jan 2012 9:10am
was attempted humor not sarcasm

not my fault Duncan has led a sheltered life
nosmas
nosmas
WA
53 posts
WA, 53 posts
26 Jan 2012 9:48am
Idiot was harsh... But you know what they say when begging on google...
TimKay
TimKay
752 posts
752 posts
26 Jan 2012 9:49pm
You guys are really good at arguing amongst yourselves
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