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ste
ste
WA
524 posts
ste ste
WA, 524 posts
15 Feb 2007 12:26am
Just starting out and wondering if it is worth investing in a trainer kite,will it help?and will it make a big differance once i start a few lessons?Cheers.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
15 Feb 2007 1:32am
any amount of kite flying will help you when it comes to grabbing onto the big ones!
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
15 Feb 2007 2:48am
Get one cause then you'll be able to introduce your friends to kiting as well. Then if they can fly the trainer well you will feel confident when you give them the big kite (once you've learnt how to fly it properly!), but they are also great fun to play with also.

Cheers
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
15 Feb 2007 1:04am
Definately a good idea!

Get yourself a 3m. The 2m's are cheaper but they are more toy like and move at ridiculous speeds which is not like flying a big kite. It would be like training to drive a truck in a Mini Cooper S.

Good winds,

hawaii
hawaii
VIC
130 posts
VIC, 130 posts
15 Feb 2007 12:26pm
yeah but faster is more fun surely! I want a 1.2m naish foil they are awesome ...
em
em
318 posts
em em
318 posts
15 Feb 2007 11:07am
Go for it mate!
That's as much money you will save on lessons to reach your flying skill level!
Students who used to come to me with training kite experience background were improving twice faster than students who didn't.
As Kitehard mentioned, small kites will tend to have a bit of a mosquito effect, so make sure you focus on controlling them rather than just moving them randomly all over the window. Practice keeping the kite steady in one spot (rather than letting the wind decide... ) and once you can do this your eyes closed, work on control one handed (tip: right hand controls the left side of the wind window, left hand the right side...).
If you turn up to your first lesson being able to know where you kite is your eyes closed, it will only take you couple of hours to get used to an inflatable kite and you will be on the board in no time!
Definitely worth the investment...
Have fun!
NSW, 4382 posts
15 Feb 2007 2:12pm
Absolutely!
Every person we teach must have previous kite flying experience or we just cannot book them for a lesson. Its bad value for them and it just crowds out our small beach here.

Nothing can imprint the wind window in your mind other than kite flying experience, trainer kites are the only safe and economical way to get that experience.

The 2M size is the most popular, because it can be flown in almost any winds, and not all trainer kites fly well. avoid anything smaller than 2M, but anything is better than nothing, even a delta sport (stunt) kite will do.

The Ozone Imp 2M is by far the most popular training kites in Australia, and in my extensive experience flying foil kites, it is the best flying trainer kite on the market.
Other options would be the Best trainer, and the Slingshot, North or Airush.

Buy new trainers here
http://www.kitepower.com.au/catalog/category_253_Trainer_Kites.html

Or if in Sydney or Geelong hire one here
www.kitepower.com.au/news/index.php?id=45,0,0,1,0,0

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

quote:
Originally posted by ste

Just starting out and wondering if it is worth investing in a trainer kite,will it help?and will it make a big differance once i start a few lessons?Cheers.

Bloke
Bloke
VIC
8 posts
VIC, 8 posts
15 Feb 2007 3:05pm
Must admit, i took the recommendation of people here on these forum's to get some practice on a Trainer kite and I have been doing so for the last few weeks. It's great fun and you quickly work out how the wind window work's and how your bar movements effect the kite in the air. I've improbably had about 7-8 hours on it now and am almost confident enough to book myself some seasons before the end of the season. I think the trainer will be money well spent as some mates are already showing interest.
kitebored
kitebored
NSW
593 posts
NSW, 593 posts
15 Feb 2007 4:13pm
most local shops let you borrow a trainer kite for free if you have a lesson booked with them. In my opinion its not worth buying one, i've had a few mates buy em and them sell them for half the price after one or two goes..
em
em
318 posts
em em
318 posts
15 Feb 2007 2:20pm
quote:
Originally posted by kitebored

most local shops let you borrow a trainer kite for free


True too. Windsurf N Snow in collaroy has training kites available..... They're at disposition and can be borrowed anytime for free....
kitebored
kitebored
NSW
593 posts
NSW, 593 posts
15 Feb 2007 4:40pm
also you can't use these trainer kites when its over 15knts or so, we broke a set of lines in about 6 different places one day in about 18knts.. brand new brand name kite and lines..

we thought it'd be great fun in a big blow with a skateboard but not to be
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
15 Feb 2007 5:32pm
I have a 1.8m trainer kite and it has lifted a 10 year old in the air in +20knots before. Not only did the lines not break, but the 10 year old didn't let go and was lifted again after hitting the ground the first time.

Tough kid though, after going back to his camp spot and having a bit of a cry he came back for another go. This time with his dad holding onto him.

The lines didn't break with me flying it like said mosquito in tight 8s and loops in the centre of the power zone at the same windspeeds either mind you.

Definitely get one, borrow or buy. I say buy, they're great fun for non-kiters and I enjoy mine myself occasionally too, like when the wind is just picking up and not strong enough to ride on the water etc.
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
16 Feb 2007 12:13am
I flew a sport/stunt kite for two years before getting some lessons *Took me that long to discover the sport:(* Spent 15 minutes on a 2m trainer kite before jumping onto a 7m bow. Ok, so the stunt kite aint notheing like an inflatable but i found that it did give me the necessary skills to get started quickly. Cheaper option, lots of fun and just an idea...

p.s It wont pull like a trainer kite, but still has reasonable kick!
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
16 Feb 2007 12:30am
quote:
Originally posted by kitebored

also you can't use these trainer kites when its over 15knts or so, we broke a set of lines in about 6 different places one day in about 18knts.. brand new brand name kite and lines..

we thought it'd be great fun in a big blow with a skateboard but not to be



There's "trainer" kites and "power" kites. I imagine the kite wasn't made by Flexifoil, Ozone or PKD. Power foils are awesome. My old 4.9m Flexifoil Blade2 pulled like a 12m C.

I agree with other comments about the value of a trainer, 3m is an ideal size. I still have a 3.5, it's perfect to give mates or the GF to play with.
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
16 Feb 2007 12:28am
We use Liquid Force and Airush Trainers for our kiteschool and they are really good and stable. The LF one is slow and stable, while the Airush ones behaves just like a big kite, so learning to fly at window, doing figure of eights etc are really good. We have both brands in stock, new or used. Visit website for pricing.
looseunit
looseunit
QLD
111 posts
QLD, 111 posts
16 Feb 2007 12:40am
it allways pays to have trainer kite .its all bar practice ,plus when in a cyclone it makes for great buzz
ste
ste
WA
524 posts
ste ste
WA, 524 posts
16 Feb 2007 12:08am
Thanks for all the advise people,been very helpful,will defo invest in one.
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