Anyone had their Waroo chickenloop line snap yet?

ive got the oldest one in Aus by like a month or so... and in the last month ive had both bridals snap and the chickenloop line went on Tuesday... Check EVERYTHING for wear...

Self Destruct Sequence is as follows:
- Valves will start leaking
- Quick release will randomly come off
- Bridals Will Snap about 2-3 sessions apart
- Pulleys will jam and break and need to be replaced
- Chicken loop line will snap with NO WARNING
- Depower strap will not release
- Whole Canopy will tear in half and flutter from the sky
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They are great kites tho, just treat them nice...

.....before you set up and go out!!!

i know someone who has a waroo and his bridles snapped when he was out in the surf- NOT GOOD!!

Just informing, another c-loop line went today at brighton (QLD) but this time on a bar from a 14m, the kiter never stresses any of his gear, and is only learning backrolls etc so it wasnt his fault... he got a kite in the 2nd brisbane shipment so watch out for it on yours...

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!! i would like to now point everyone in the general direction of the following link...
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=2438
its what my 9m waroo now looks like...
no it was not surf, no it was not a hard crash, it was when i just sined the kite down to get a bit of power....

Anyone want a 9m waroo? Has been easily converted to a 4.5m so would suit younger rider....

pffft back to the C's

interesting....i wasn't that impressed with the build of the waroo compared to ss, north or naish, i also saw a bridle on a moderately used crossbow snap yesterday as well.

Rhys when did you get your waroo?

my 12m is almost 7 months old and the only kite ive ridden so fair few hours on it.

havnt had any of the problems you listed. although that picture makes me worry

Its called maintenance, you drive a race car, you change the tyres
check the oil etc.
High performance=high mainteance

no maintenance = lots of break downs

ex demo kite = been thrashed by everyone

still its a bummer man.

Rhys,

Whilst I understand your frustration, and it is good to have your say, if you feel that it is a real problem with the Best kites, I think Kurt offerred you a very gentleman's solution ( I would say he went the extra mile towards you so it's your turn now).

On the other hand, we have to understand, we buy cheap, the quality may not (I said may not - this is not necessarilly the rule) be there, and the equiupment is getting used and abused as well during the mellow cruises as during the extereme tricks.

So, inspect your gear every day bafore going out and replace the lines with good quality ones as soon as you see they start to fry.

As about pulleys, I fond the cheap, small pastic ones you buy at the yacht shops are the best: no metalic parts, the palstic is of a very high tensile strenght, and are less prone to get jammed by sand.

And one last think, do you really believe that the problem with the Best kites is real? Or you just wanted you kite repaired!

Good luck and be safe

Myself and my mate were out at Kernell today (Sunday) on my 9m waroo. 25-30 knots N/NW with up to 50 knot gusts. No problems with the Waroo at all. No leaks, rips, tears, snapping-i think its is a great kite.

so what happens when / if the chicken loop breaks?
i want to know what to expect beforehand if this does happen.

hmmmpf.

i really like my waroo - hope this stuff doesnt happen.

When the bridal snaps - i take it it looks a bit worn / frayed before it goes - does this happen around the pulley that should be oiled and freed before kiting or at the knots?

Thx
Robbo.

If the c-loop line breaks the kite basically just flips backwards because it has no front lines anymore and your left holding the bar and the 2 back lines attached to the kite... because most of us only clip the safety to the chickenloop ring, we could lose the kite because the bottom half of the c-loop just falls out of the bar and is useless...

If it happens just dont let go of the bar and do your best to get to the kite.

Robbo: One of my bridal lines was a little worn before it went, but once that blew i went over the other one carfully and it showed no signs of wear... so i left it thinking it would be fine... so i guess as soon as you see any wear on EITHER line just replace them to be sure...
or do what a lot of the guys here have done, and cut out a meter of the existing bridal, 50cm either side of where its worn, then tie a knot on both ends and just replace that 1 meter. This saves you replacing the whole bridal etc which happens to go the complete way up the kite to the centre...

Hi Robbo,

Bridles snapping is not a new problem, The Wipika Airblast back in 2001 used bridles to assist in relaunch and they also snapped after time.

The answer to your question the answer is NO, they do not show signs of wear before they break, but you can check them by feel.

The core strands are the main tensional strength of the bridle and the woven outer is more of a protective sheath. The core strands will break and leave all of the load to the outer cover which is not designed for load.

To check, simply find where abouts the lines run around the pulleys and using your forefinger and your thumb, pinch the bridle line and pull it through your fingers, a broken core will show up as a skinnier piece of bridle. You wont see it, but you will feel it.

Bridle life can be extended by washing your bridle lines in fresh water after each use, or having failed this idea, keep a close finger on the bridles and be prepared to replace them before they break, Oh and if you break one, immediately replace both sides as the old one will be stretched and about to break and the new one will be fresh and tight.

I strongly advise all bridled kite flyers to check their bridles every other session after the kite is a few months old, depending upon level of use. I can speak from experience as a line snapped on my old Wipi AB 6'3 at around 25 feet in 30 knots of wind and I inadvertantly did the worlds first kiteloop and landed on my back hard enough to think I was dead! I hurt for ages and thought I would cough up or pee blood

Hope this helps,

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Originally posted by robbo

Thanks for the info guys.

I assume the bit of bridle that you are talking about is the bit that goes through the pulley, and thats the bit you can cut & paste?

Is it the action of going through the pulley that stesses the bridle, or is it best(<-LoL) to replace the whole thing?

robbo.

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It is the action of the line going thru the pulley.
Spectra type lines (that are basically as Kitehard explained) don't like going thru pulleys. Probably the bending moments don't keep the tension forces in line with the fibres.

It's not a question of IF they will break, but WHEN.

All airblast kiters saw these new bridle kites with lines and pulleys, and chuckled.

what lines do u use?

ok thanks