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kiteman
kiteman
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30 Apr 2006 5:07pm
When is it good to be out on wellington point? wind direction?
What other spots around brisbane is good in the winter?
elizabethb
elizabethb
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30 Apr 2006 5:33pm
Heya Kiteman,

If you're going to venture to Wello, you'll save a lot of pain and agony by buying a pair of 'booties'. Have a read through this 'topic' about booties and recc. ones. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17977
Booties liek I have - been about a year, and still in prefect nick.


Wello is kiteable in all directions, however the best are NW/N/NE/E/SE. S'ly is particular gusty as it comes directly off the spit/ land and is fairly offshore if you aren't a competant kiter. W'ly as in most areas is gusty and not recc, however, Wello point is one of the only spots which you can kite in a W'ly.

At high tide, Wello is brillant as there is room for everyone to kite On the straddy side the water is waist deep and the manly side is extremely deep. You can kite low tide in a S through to E, however you have to walk up to the beacons and kite out in shallow water until you reach the deep water further upwind (not recc. for beginners as it's land totally downwind). In a NE/N/NE/W/and SW you can kite on the manly side of the spit but you need to ensure you can stay upwind really well, as it's a long way to be dragged over to manly and thornside.

At a high tide of 2m you run out of setting up space, but anything lower than 1.6m's are you have enough set-up space, or set up extremely qucikly on the grass and by-pass a council fine. If you are caught with any kiteboarding equipment above the high tide mark, the council can fine you a $275 fine

Other locations include Brighton, The pool, Woody pt, Queens Beach Nth at Reddy, Scarbs, and quite a few other places. It all depends on what stage of kiting you are at; beginner, int, or advanced to where it is a great location for you to kite.

Kiteman, head down tomorrow and you can see how the tide goes, where to set-up etc, what direction allows you to kite in certain areas, and get to know some of the 'locals'. I should be down there tomorrow for sure so give me a 'nod' if you want a hand, or send me a pm message. More than happy to help.

Goodwinds and hope for the 15/20 to show tomorrow!
Elizabeth Bate - Wello Kiter
shackle4life2
shackle4life2
WA
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30 Apr 2006 5:13pm
dont go to wellow that try hard zebb peters kites there
elizabethb
elizabethb
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30 Apr 2006 7:22pm
haha Shackle ... You in Brissy mate>? or where do u kite outta interest
malfi66
malfi66
QLD
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1 May 2006 2:49pm
Hi guys

I was interested to know what kiting at Wello was like today? I was hangin out to go, but by 2:30 banana bank wind was all over the place and I decided it wasn't worth it. Did you end up going out Elizabeth?
paulio
paulio
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1 May 2006 3:18pm
Dat chick was rippin put most of the goldy crew to shame
elizabethb
elizabethb
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1 May 2006 3:22pm
Heya Mal -

what to say about the wind today... and and lool

Arrived at 11.00, the wind was too light, two guys out on a 17m Cab and another on a 9m bow... Some more ventured out on 12 and 14m kites, the whole time my 10m is idely sitting on the beach At about 1.30pm the 17m kite comes in and is very powered, the 9m bow is perfectly lit, guys head out on 14m's I take the 10m, lit nicely for about 5 minutes, then bam, like 18 + knots of wind and gusts and I lasted about 20/25 minutes on total depower after that and came in.

After that a few of the guys over 85 kgs took out 12m C kites, 9m bow kites, and there were numerous 8 and 9m kites (men not boys, so that was the strength of the wind! The beacons don't accurately show how strong the wind actually was).

So all in all, a pretty nice day, the typical westerly, and great to see some of the Goldy crew and put names to faces

Cya at the next westerly
elizabethb
elizabethb
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1 May 2006 3:24pm
Backing me Paulio or teasing me mate [}:)]
paulio
paulio
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1 May 2006 5:43pm
Def backin you!! you should get down the goldy and ride with some of the girls down there and push ur limits
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
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1 May 2006 5:29pm
ahemm ahhhem ....scuse me butting in - but -
Paulio you need to empty your mailbox.
Cant stuff another envelope in anywhere
The drop-offs tonight & you will need the GPS data for the pickup.
Can you get Greenleader to lend you some fishing gear
Heading out at night "looking for kitesurfing spots" might not be the best story ever
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
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1 May 2006 7:32pm
Hi Liz

Thanks for the "deweeding assistance"

The 13.5 finally ran out of depower strap at about 3pm, so I had to come in.

Just wondering why you were flying your kite so high in the air and bouncing along only hitting the water every 5 meters or so. Are you working on some new high wind moves ??

Good spot to kite in westerleys (probably the only spot)

Paulio is going to see if we can get a few bulldozers sent up from the Gold Coast Council to organise the beach a bit better and to clear out some of the obstructions (rocks and coral bits) from the eastern side of the sandbank.

The gold coast crew have plenty of re-designed fins and board bases after the session today after plenty of scrapes with the bottom as the tide left us.

We should also get a few loads of nice white sand sent up to cover the gravel on the shorefront.

Thanks again for the use of your beautiful beach and I hope we did't upset the Poley's too much.

Get down our way soon.

Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
paulio
paulio
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1 May 2006 8:00pm
This should be discussed only on our shoe fones,its no wunder your code name is 69 (or was that because we all slept top to tail in Mambo)nevermind, greenleader has several boogy board bags from the shop to fill up so i gota go now, and remember DO NOT PLACE PILLS IN USED CONDOMS BEFORE SWALLOWING THEM. over and out
malfi66
malfi66
QLD
181 posts
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1 May 2006 8:06pm
Thx Liz

Great report. For me it's a long haul to Wello and I'm tryin to get a grip on what the beacons are sayin compared to what actually happens at Wello. I have a 16m Caution and a beat up 14m BT Cabrinha that pulls hard to the left so I think I woulda had a bit trouble gettin out today.

While I think of it, does anyone have suggestions on what to do with a kite that pulls hard one way. It has about six repairs including a main sail repair all the way down the middle which I think may be the cause. I was thinking of shortening the left hand side power line to try and get it to even up. I tried puting one knot in it (LH power line) the other day when I was at goldie but that didn't seem to make much difference. Maybe I gotta put a few knots in it. I thought logically shortening the left one would make it go right (effectively lengthening the left hand back line).

I can't see that LE bladder is twisted or anything. Any advice would be appreciated.

Mal
elizabethb
elizabethb
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1 May 2006 8:25pm
quote:
Originally posted by malfi66

While I think of it, does anyone have suggestions on what to do with a kite that pulls hard one way.



Pull it hard the other way when you're kiting jks

quote:
Originally posted by malfi66

It has about six repairs including a main sail repair all the way down the middle which I think may be the cause.



This would be where your problem lies. If your lines are all the same length, then the issue is with the kite itself. When the main sail was repaired, it most likely was sewn back on incorrectly with say even 1-2cm of wrong sewing, and the kite can 'drift' to one direction.

You can also ensure also your bladder isn't twisted (this won't make it drift too much to one direction). Pump up the kite with the bladder still in, and struts not inflated (somewhere non windy), so it is lying flat like so =====o===== along the ground, cup your hand over the leading edge (bladder underneath) and firmly "brush/ rub" it from the middle valve down to one tip, then re-start this same process from the middle to the other tip. This will just ensure the bladder is not twisted, or sitting incorrectly. If you want to be 100% sure, you can take it out and re-place it in. (Just don't forget to thread string or a kite line through so you can puyll the bladder back in)

Also, ensure that the 'knots' on both sides of your kite (attachment point) are exactly the same. This makes a huge difference. If you use a different bar and lines for both kites, check the line length of the bar and lines for this kite, because sometimes there have been miss-cut lines! It does happen

How did the girls go with their lesson? or wasn't the wind right.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
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1 May 2006 9:16pm
quote:
Originally posted by paulio
greenleader has several boogy board bags from the shop to fill up

Boogyboard bags - thats brilliant paulio
Who would ever dream of looking in there
Sheer brilliance - tis all I can say.
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
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2 May 2006 5:47am
hi liz,
let me know when you come down to the goldie. If you ask paulio nicely he will let you on his boat so you can come to the pin. It's a great spot to try new tricks and stuff.
Sounds like you had a good day at wello yesterday.

Take care, Angie Van hoof
Joffa
Joffa
QLD
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2 May 2006 6:41am
Alright guys going to get you all to think outside the box (safari style). Lived near Wello (10mins away) for over 10 years and know the place very well!! foot scares, broken fins, scratched boards, etc but mainly from a windsurfing angle...

In the middle of Winter on a west or sth westerly with the tide out, the flat water speed runs inside King Island are awesome! However, being an ex Redlander and often prefering thompson beach (aglae central)or Pt Hallorn on a northly (jelly dodging), here is my alternative to Wello on all the difficult winter wind direction..... Coochiemudlo Island ssshhhh not so loud! We don't want everyone to know about it... It sits a kilometre or so offshore from Victoria Pt and has a small ferry/barge service to it daily as it is inhabited with neuvo trendies (well becoming that way - otherwise Redlanders who can't aford mainland prices and are semi-retired)

The island has nice large sandy beach exposure on the southern and eastern side and would seem to be a place that would work in west and sth west winds and easterlies obviously too! The island is very small and can be walked around in less than 30mins and a beach safari would take 15mins from southern jetty to easterly facing beaches.

Worth a look during the winter months... I used to windsurf over to the island in the old days from Thompsons Beach and stick my mast in the sand so apparently it should now be called Joffa's beach! The ferry across is inexpensive and a regular service, i'm sure you would find the timetable online. You could also do an offshore run to the island and get the ferry back... Anyone with a sense of adventure willing to take a safari this weekend if the westerlies keep up send a post and bring your kites and bike!

Failing that how about a ride in your boat to Sth Stradie Fitzy with some of those distractions you often have onboard...I'm sure the fresh westerlies will bring out the white pointers!!

cheers ppls and hit me back....

Jeff >>>(now Gold Coast kite crew)
Rovert
Rovert
QLD
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2 May 2006 2:01pm
Ref malfi66's question about Wello yesterday (Labour Day) - it was great. I, with limited experience and arguably less expertise, had my 12m Waroo up from just after 1pm until nearly 5pm...I can hardly walk today! No heroics, just getting my hours on the water up with long runs and getting better board control. I learnt a heap.

Been watching the BOM reports today and they've been out of action at a crucial stage...very worrying. Too late now.

To Kiteman's original question, I only go to Wello when there's some westerly component and then go on the Manly side and head out deep...I wouldn't go anywhere in a westerly without a very depowerable kite. For me Brighton and Wello are about the same distance and Brighton is just so much nicer in an easterly....though I accept that a high tide at Wello can make things reasonable (if you don't get fined for rigging! - no risk of that at Brighton).
malfi66
malfi66
QLD
181 posts
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2 May 2006 4:32pm
Rovert!!!! UGGGGGGHHHHH!!!! (racked with jealousy). It looks like my next purchase will have to be a bow. Man that means sooooooo many brownie points I gotta get with the missus.

Yeah the girls got 2/3 of a lesson. Basically the wind was crap. I was able to give one of them a go at body dragging on Anzac day though. She did really well! and was thrilled.

I think I'll leave any further lessons for them until next season now though.

Coochie sounds interestink
ColTech
ColTech
QLD
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2 May 2006 4:32pm
So you can actually get fined for rigging there???? Whats the go with that?? Why?? Has it ever happened? Suppose some old lady complained, that usually what happens
elizabethb
elizabethb
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2 May 2006 4:44pm
Heya Col - It's at least a $370 fine from last reports , I thought it was less, but it must have increased.

One of the wello team riders have been fined, but that is all from my knowledge. I am unsure why there is a penalty if ANY of our equipment is above the high tide mark, but I assume it is as there are 30m's of lines that not only pram wheels, children, older people can trip over, and many other reasons. Compared to windsurfing, there is a lot of gear, lines, pumps, and extra things the general public could somehow "trip over" I presume... Sometimes it's one person spoiling the fun for everyone


Mal, great to hear the girls at least got out for part of a lesson and kind of got the feel of it. The new tempest are due in perfect timing for the new season, so we'll see what that brings ... Goodwinds mate

Elizabeth Bate - Wello Kiter
ColTech
ColTech
QLD
47 posts
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2 May 2006 4:52pm
Spose so. there really isnt much room there i guess. Are there signs warning of this? Cause ive set up there a few times and never seen any. mind u if its howling the last thing im looking for is warning signs
elizabethb
elizabethb
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2 May 2006 5:21pm
heya col - yep there's a sign, but you'll be blowed to notice it unless you read the signs as you drive in... from an old post, this was the pic I uploaded..



In other words, the council does not have jurisdiction below the high tide mark, hence why we are a-okay to have all equipment below this "high tide mark".

Goodwinds
Elizabeth Bate - Wello Kiter
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
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2 May 2006 5:26pm
One sign on the main road immediately before you enter the park says something like " Due to the inherent dangers, kitesurfing equipment is not to be brought into the park"

Another sign on the foreshore says something like " No watercraft, powered or unpowered are to be there" I understand that a Kite and board are legally referred to as a "craft" or "vessel" as far as the marine department are concerned.

I can understand these regulations. I was horrified at the number of people who enjoy this beautiful park. The problem lies with all the "tin Lids" running around the place. Inexperienced kiters launching and retrieving mixed with kids running around on the beach simply do not mix. Very small area to launch in a high tide.

Kites have to be set up and kept below the highwater mark.

Fitzy - Gold Coast OZ
ColTech
ColTech
QLD
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2 May 2006 5:27pm
Im to busy looking at the white caps driving in and to busy doin burnouts up the hill on the way out to see that!
malfi66
malfi66
QLD
181 posts
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2 May 2006 6:53pm
"Bringing Kite equipment into the reserve is strictly prohibited". So theoretically you could be fined for even having your gear in the boot or carrying your gear across the grass to or from the beach.

Hmmmm.
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