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Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
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NSW, 446 posts
5 Nov 2009 4:46pm
Is it Dacron? Like the same stuff they use in sails?

I have a small mold problem on a (near) brand new kite.

No idea how it happened, the kite was fine when I first bought it, never even got it wet. Left it packed away for a couple of months and I notice today that some mold is starting to grow, its some green stuff.

I intend to use a 1% bleach solution in cold water to kill this pesky stuff. I want to make sure the material doesn't get damaged. I intend to soak for a couple of hours and then rinse and dry thoroughly.

So bummed - Its such a perty kite as well
79Boarder
79Boarder
NSW
94 posts
NSW, 94 posts
5 Nov 2009 5:42pm
Just leave it. I had the same problem when I packed my kite away wet a while back. I was told salt water won't go moldy, but it does. It will dissappear after a few sessions and you don't have to risk bleaching / ruining your kite. Try not to pack it away wet again.
Good Luck.
Ned
Ned
WA
71 posts
Ned Ned
WA, 71 posts
5 Nov 2009 3:00pm
try a solution of "clove oil" and water. Kills mould!!!
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
5 Nov 2009 7:49pm
Ok well I reckon I'll try it on a small part of the kite to start with and to see what happens - I'll keep you guys updated on how it goes.

I know this is the standard way of killing mold on sails - done it before, but I don't think kite material is quite the same thing.
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
5 Nov 2009 7:50pm
79Boarder said...

Just leave it. I had the same problem when I packed my kite away wet a while back. I was told salt water won't go moldy, but it does. It will dissappear after a few sessions and you don't have to risk bleaching / ruining your kite. Try not to pack it away wet again.
Good Luck.


My problem is that the mold is still alive - I don't want it to spread
bargearse
bargearse
QLD
148 posts
QLD, 148 posts
5 Nov 2009 7:14pm
where you kite and got the mould was there a lot of fresh water from a river or less salty than the ocean lake or something? I would have thought taking your kite out in the salt water and getting it really wet will kill the mould. Never had mould grow on sails/ kites anything wet from salt.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
5 Nov 2009 6:36pm
as above or mix up some strong salty water.
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
5 Nov 2009 9:51pm
I think what happened is that there was some condensation in the kite when I flew the kite from overseas (somehow?). I have no idea though really.

Never flown it in anything other than the sea.

I also thought of the salt solution, but I don't know if it will be enough to kill it.

I asked my (scientist) dad what he thought and he suggested I chuck the kite into the pool - it would have the same effect as bleach at low concentrations.
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
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5 Nov 2009 10:09pm
^ and it's saltwater - so the kite is going to soak in the recently chlorinated pool for the next 2 hours or so. Hope the bladder doesn't fill with water!

I do worry about the effects of chlorine on the 'protective layer' they put on kites but I'll go grab some sail protector next time I get a chance just in case.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
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5 Nov 2009 7:11pm
Jimmyz said...

I think what happened is that there was some condensation in the kite when I flew the kite from overseas (somehow?). I have no idea though really.

Never flown it in anything other than the sea.

I also thought of the salt solution, but I don't know if it will be enough to kill it.

I asked my (scientist) dad what he thought and he suggested I chuck the kite into the pool - it would have the same effect as bleach at low concentrations.

hyper saline water will kill a lot more than pool water, go the salt jimmy
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
5 Nov 2009 11:01pm
Where have you stored it in the off season? In a damp basement?

I wouldn't worry about it TBH. Using chemicals on your kite will damage the material.

Mould doesn't tend to attack synthetics. Once you get it out in the sun, salt and sand it should disappear.
Nails0
Nails0
SA
4 posts
SA, 4 posts
5 Nov 2009 11:02pm
Dont mean to hijack your post, but I have a question along similar lines...

Does sunscreen affect kite material? I have a big white spodge on a near new kite. I managed to wipe most of it off but i'm hoping whats left wont soak in and affect the canopy. Surely this has happened to others, is it any worse than just having a stain?
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
6 Nov 2009 12:30am
Nails0 said...

Dont mean to hijack your post, but I have a question along similar lines...

Does sunscreen affect kite material? I have a big white spodge on a near new kite. I managed to wipe most of it off but i'm hoping whats left wont soak in and affect the canopy. Surely this has happened to others, is it any worse than just having a stain?


From memory I DID stain a shirt of mine permanently with sunscreen, but I don't think it will for a kite, they don't absorb stuff too readily so it will likely just remain on the surface.

Just took the kite out of the pool then.

If any more grows I'll use heaps of salt - my old kite has a coating of salt crust on it - it's been so long since I crashed it in the water so it's just accumulated all over the canopy

Nope, I stored it in a garage - open area, dry, decent enough ventilation.

I'll see what happens.
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
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6 Nov 2009 8:14am
Mold wont grow if you use it more often,try to get out at least 7 times a week. Should make for a happy mold free kite
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
6 Nov 2009 10:42am
Should make for a happy stress-free JimmyZ too
odetojak
odetojak
NSW
54 posts
NSW, 54 posts
6 Nov 2009 12:04pm

At which point did you think it would be a good idea to start using your kite to wipe your excess suntan cream off....?

can just see him on the beach now..


Hmm.. put too much suntan cream on...damn.. Towel... No... oh wait.. Ahh.. here we go.....
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
6 Nov 2009 1:20pm
Ok it's out of the pool.

The mold that was in the stitching is gone

There is only a TINY bit left on a white panel but it's gone from a healthy green to a dead black [}:)]

I rinsed the kite in fresh water and am leaving it outside to air a little before I take it inside and let it dry in the garage.

I found that much of the mold is growing in the seams where water just sits - wtf slingy! Luckily this water now has chlorine in it so I don't think it will be a problem for much longer :).

None of the colour has faded.

So there you are - salt water pools kills mold! :D ... well most of it.

For the record I only left it in there for about 3 hours (1.5 on each side).

I shall get some kind of protectant just in case and will dip (crash) my kite into seawater to get rid of the remaining chlorine.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
6 Nov 2009 9:23pm
Best solution I've found so far. Works everywhere

Mix 10 litres of warm water with 1kg of pool salt.

Apply liberally to your kite, tent, wife, dog with a soft broom

Leave in the sun until only the white salt remains on your kite, wife etc

Brush off the salt and the mould will be gone!!!

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