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Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
1 Jan 2005 10:51pm
Hey fellow wind sport enthusiasts!

I want to get into kite-surfing. Where I live (Sunshine Coast) is mostly too windy or too flat to surf and too hectic to sail my catamaran.

What do I buy? I can't afford new stuff. I am 37, 90+ kg and fairly fit. (still playing rugby and surfing kind of fit)

Do I need different kites for different wind strengths? Is there an all purpose board that will get me started?

I don't mind getting lessons but I am sick of being given biased advice by shop owners with $$$ in their eyes.

Give me some honest advice please.

Dave
CarlBevo
CarlBevo
NSW
609 posts
NSW, 609 posts
2 Jan 2005 1:22am
BWD- get the lessons they are worth it for yourself and others

1) start with looking at the for sale forums and shops to get a feel for the prices of new and second hand gear

2) definateley need diff kite sizes if you want a good range - for your weight a common quiver might be an 8, 12 and a 16 not sure of the wind over there though (this is common for WA)IMO to begin with an 8 and a 12 is a good start

3) lots of schools of thought on board sizes for learners normally larger twin tips are the easier to learn on say a fat 150 TT - you will eventually want a shorter board

4) definately get some lessons


keep it safe and enjoy

PsYLoR
PsYLoR
QLD
927 posts
QLD, 927 posts
2 Jan 2005 2:56am
Yeah, i'd say buy a small trainer kite and learn to use that with your eyes closed and in all different wind strengths. You want to be able to feel the kite through the bar & be able to fly it without looking at it. This will be a huge help in learning the power zones etc when you move to a big kite. You will be able to trade it in on a big kite later too.

Lessons will give you a huge advantage because you will be told how to do things the right way from the start. You will save money on repairs because you will crash the big kite a fair bit when learning, so its better to use someone else's You will quickly learn the techniques used to body drag, self launch, water relaunch and will be able to go out after the lesson on your own and learn to get up on a board. (if you dont get to that point in the lesson anyway)

Read up all that you can on the equipment available. You should know all about aspect ratio and technical kite stuff before you buy a kite, so you know what your getting.... (Would u buy a surfboard because its called a surfboard or would you find out its dimensions & type to see if it would suit your riding style first?)

I live on the Gold Coast, but i'd say you probably get mostly 15-25 knot winds on the Sunshine Coast too? So a 13 - 14 meter kite would suit you best in the beginning. If you've had wakeboard/ snowboard experience you should pick it up pretty fast so keep that in mind when buying "beginner style kites" because 2 months later when you can kite well you may want a higher aspect (performance) kite or a smaller board.
A 140-150 length board is a good size for your weight in the beginning.(get a twin tip first to make it easy) Keep in mind that kitesurfing is 80% flying the kite and 20% boardriding so once you can fly the kite well you dont need a big board - Eg, My board is way too small for me to wakeboard with behind a boat, its way too hard to get out of the water. But with the kite lifting you out you dont need that extra length in the board so you get better performance from a smaller board.
IMO 'Slingshot' are very good kites & boards. You can learn on a Fuel 04/05 very easily and you will never need to upgrade to a better kite. Hope that hasn't confused you too much.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
2 Jan 2005 9:18am
Thanks Guys.
After reading up heaps lessons will be a priority. Safety in the water is number one for me.
kusu
kusu
QLD
485 posts
QLD, 485 posts
4 Jan 2005 5:11am
sent you an email dave
richo
richo
QLD
337 posts
QLD, 337 posts
4 Jan 2005 8:41am
if you get lessons you will be suprised how quickly your kite skills improve(as well as your life span). You will find that you will not be well received if you turn up expecting to fly your kite at a beach with out having had any instruction. It just makes you too dangerous. We all took lessons or had a friend teach us.

Time at the cable ski world park if possible is a must. Edge around whole course with left leg and right leg in front. It may take a few trips to the park, but you will just charge and need fewer lessons if you do this.

If you have a friend to help you and you get say, 3 lessons i see no problem with you starting on a 12.(your high wind kite). When your ready you can purchase your an all rounder. Also get a fifth line it is ideal for beginners adding a valuable safety feature.

You will find most of crew around 80+ have 14m as their all rounders.
It is hard when you are heavier. I am 95 and find the spectrum 15m gives me just a little extra over the 14 and is still fast to fly. I really like it. Yea maybe that or a 16. 16 12 and 10 is a good quiver for qld. You could get a really large kite for those light days but when your 90+ i think you just have to realise that 10knots to 13knots is just going to be a real struggle

good luck
kiteon
kiteon
WA
1 posts
WA, 1 posts
5 Jan 2005 9:27am
Hi Dave,
To start with, yes I am one of those shop owners with $$$ in my eyes but I though I would reply anyway.
Heres my thoughts, as the others have said get lessons first.
I agree with Richo on kite size a 13-14m is going to be the most used kite, only if you wanted a bigger wind range would you look at a 2 kite quiver of say a 10-12 and a 16-17.
You cant go wrong with a medium aspect kite. You will have problems with a high aspect kite and they wont necessarily offer you any benefits. If your on a budget I would reccommend you look for a Naish Boxer or a Slingshot Deisel. I know the guy at the wharf sells Slingshot and the guy at Caloundra sells Naish, so im not just trying to reccomend kites you would have to buy from me. There is some good used gear around but just be aware of apparent bargains and any costs you may incurr later. Take somebody who knows what they are looking at when you inspect used kites. The rite choices will hopefully see you kiteing for many years to come.
www.briskites.com.au/
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
6 Jan 2005 10:43am
Thanks to all for your advice.

I have booked in for lessons this Sat!!!
richo
richo
QLD
337 posts
QLD, 337 posts
6 Jan 2005 11:13am
your loved ones and your fellow kiters thankyou!
Have a wild time mate this sport is the bomb
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