What is the most scared you have been kiting?

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kiter789
kiter789
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15 Jul 2008 2:04pm
In response to this,

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39463

...someone suggested I start a thread with this question. So I did.

Often people begin these threads with their own tale to tell. However, I personally have never ever ever been scared kiting as I am HARD CORE, and unfrightenable (female, you see). However, I am aware that most of this forum's readers are not female...they are the other one, what's it called again? With the furry faces and the beer...? Ah yes, male.

So...start writing...

GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
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15 Jul 2008 2:21pm
Dragging face first through sharp dried out dune scrub, kite deathlooping in front of me, safety release not working (though I was hooked up fully suicide, so had I got the chicken loop to release I was no better off).

The barbed wire fence I was was dragging towards had sections of rusty railway track for posts rather than wood.

You want to know how it ended up as well as how scared I was when it was happening?
mattyjee
mattyjee
WA
575 posts
WA, 575 posts
15 Jul 2008 12:24pm
Sitting on my arse on a reef in 6 inch deep water with 6 foot waves breaking and washing through on my head with a drowned inverted kite and over 500m from the shore with no-one else around.

Wasn't that bad, but i was a bit worried about being minced on the reef with the waves. I didnt realise it was so shallow when i caught the first wave. Gouged the crap out of my board trying to keep my soft flesh off the reef, had to wait until i passed over the worst of it and then self rescue and paddle back in.

This was followed by "the most unhappy i have been while kiting" - that being stuck at home untangling my lines for 2 hours while it was still blowing 25kts outside.
Beer Bong
Beer Bong
WA
350 posts
WA, 350 posts
15 Jul 2008 12:37pm
I dropped my kite in heavy surf, and as I was trying to relaunch, another wall of foam hit me and I tumbled forward onto my lines. They were fully wrapped around my torso, and it was only a matter of time before that same wave would grab my kite and tighten the lines, reducing me to a 2-piece human. In all the panic I somehow recalled which way I'd been spun, and so rapidly "unspun" in a less than gracefull underwater twist.

It worked !!! I was free - free to deal with the rest of a self rescue that is.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
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15 Jul 2008 2:41pm
Got wrapped up in my lines in a wave with a 8 foot break and a death looping kite (because the lines were wrapped around me). Pure stupidity going out in those waves with my skill level at the time and I was punished for it. No hook knife, I was lucky the kite hit the beach about 50m before a set of rock (I was dragged about 300m) and a fisherman jumped on my kite before it relaunched again and broke it. Needless to say thats the first and last time I have ever wanted to hug someone for breaking my kite. By the time that happened I hadn't breathed in about 2 minutes because I was getting dragged face forward.

...but I still wasn't scared coz I'm hardcore and I'm a guy. (if my pants hadn't been washed off I might have needed a change of underwear)
GreenPat
GreenPat
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4107 posts
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15 Jul 2008 2:44pm
Good point, there was one time at Scarbs I put my kite in a wave and didn't ditch it. The subsequent dragging underwater became quite unnerving the longer I went without air, I was awfully concerned by the time I eventually surfaced. Don't know if that beats the barbed wire fence though.
high as a kite
high as a kite
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15 Jul 2008 2:31pm
I was having a great sesh at my local wave and lost track of time, 1 hour late for my daughters wedding.
I didn't miss walking down the isle but was late for early photo's etc.
I was like treading on egg shell for a while
We laugh about it now, all's forgiven.



walshd
walshd
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601 posts
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15 Jul 2008 2:49pm
Yeh back about 5yrs ago, when I could barely go up wind, I were stupid enough to go out in cross-offshore winds. About 1/2km from shore a rear line wrapped around the wing tip. Kite crashed and wouldnt relaunch. Tried a self rescue but the wind swung around to direct offshore.

After swimming my gear in for about 1/2 hour I were'nt making any ground back to shore and were slowly getting taken out to sea. It felt like I were about 1km from shore at that stage. Decided it was either the kite or me and ditched the kite.

Swam back in on my board, had jaws music in my head the whole time and it was winter too. Luckily I had a good wetsuit on and my wakeboard vest.

The swim seemed like it took hours, paddling into about 25knt direct offshore wind on a twintip. Finally reached the shore and just collapsed kissing the sand and shivering my arse off.

My mate who fell asleep on the beach (the bastard) walks up to me and says "Walshy, are you alright? where's your kite. Want me to find someone with a boat to get your kite?"

The boat would have been nice about 2hrs ago!! I just said: "No dont worry about it, I need a hot shower and sleep"

1 wipika kite: $300, but learning the hard way about offshore winds: Priceless!!

If you dont have a boat handy, please dont go out in offshore winds!! I were self taught so didnt get that lesson drilled into me by an instructor
Neill
Neill
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15 Jul 2008 3:29pm
i haven't had any near-death experiences to terrify me, so my most frightening moment would be

25 knot cross-shore at main beach, stradbroke island. nobody else out, terrible conditions, massive dumping surf. managed to get out over the break and as a swell went up in front of me, i saw a large fin sticking up out of the water about 10m in front of me. downlooped the kite and got the hell out of there, eventually got the courage back up to go out again and in the same spot i saw a massive dark shape, thought it was a baby whale because it was so big!

anyway it moved a bit as i was heading towards it (i was pissing myself at this time) and i realised it was a MASSIVE manta-ray, the biggest one i have ever seen. it had been lying on its side with its fin out of the water, looked exactly like a shark fin. sneaky bugger! anyway i cruised around it and checked it out a few times, it was an absolute monster, must have been about 3 metres across i reckon. huge creature, but harmless.
bellz
bellz
WA
572 posts
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15 Jul 2008 1:34pm
was blowing bout 25 knots my 7 was broken so i went out on my 10 some of u know i weigh **** all so was totally maxed, this was afta nats had finished we were all going loop for loop, a few of the boys on the beach wanted bigger loops and downloops, so they got the betteer of me i pulled the trigger and that was fine, untill i landed and a line got wrapped round my spredder bar causing my kite to deathloop , this was at elliot heads and a most of u will know its just a river and on the downwind side is a big sand laggoon, so im being pulled allong toward a sand hill and i havent realised that im introuble yet, "Quote keahi u hit the bank and went flying like a ragdoll lol", i got dragged bout 50 metres then my pants got ripped off and i just got the line off my spreader(i had deploided all my safetys ownly to realise it was the line wrapped round my spreader) so i got up pulled my pants up checked the familly jewels everything was fine to my luck, i had soo much addreniline running through me i didnt realise my knees were pouring out with blood, so got home from nats 2 weeks out of the water as they infected
GreenPat
GreenPat
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15 Jul 2008 3:54pm
GreenPat said...


You want to know how it ended up as well as how scared I was when it was happening?


Ok I'll tell you. I ended up with my head wedged into one of the little dune shrubs about 10m from the fence, I was stuck so well that two of my kite lines broke under the pull of the kite and it flagged out (over the other side of the fence). Counted about 60 lacerations on my arms, legs and face that night. Was wearing a shorty wetsuit that copped it a bit too. Saved a lot of my skin though.
kiter789
kiter789
NSW
238 posts
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15 Jul 2008 4:09pm
GreenPat said...

GreenPat said...


You want to know how it ended up as well as how scared I was when it was happening?


Ok I'll tell you. I ended up with my head wedged into one of the little dune shrubs about 10m from the fence,


I know I should be treating this with reverence, but this image made me giggle.

I didn't realise people would come up with such good stories....it's pretty funny. How long till someone cuts chunks out of all these tales and then gives us all a good finger wagging talking to about safety? Place your bets now.....

I do have two tales to contribute but neither are too exciting. Both this year. Both times gave me the sicky-shakes so I reckon they're about the same.

First was last month, out in offshore waves in Northern California. 6C water and I ditched the kite...BIG SHARKS. I was pretty freaked. There were only a couple of us out (it's a pretty remote spot with big walk to get in there) and guys were riding past me telling me to let it go RIGHT NOW and just swim. Got hypothermia that day too...ah but they were pretty sweet waves!

Second one was the first time I kited where I live now. Got dumped by a couple of waves and the lines wrapped around my neck with kite dragging etc. I wasn't focused on the lines round neck business though because the pressure inside the wave warped/damaged my eardrum and it hurt so much. Waaa! Had to go to the doctor for the first time in TEN YEARS (that was the scariest part)....

Darryl F
Darryl F
NSW
58 posts
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15 Jul 2008 4:12pm
I actually had my first bit of trouble on my kite this weekend. I have now been kiting for just over a year. So I was attempting my first shot at backloops at the weekend.

presumably I had sheered the kite up too powerfully as when I came down to land the kite had come right over the top of me and it just dropped straight out of the sky. The canopy had also managed to get sucked inside out. Obviously my lines were twisted as well as I had come out of a loop.

Anyway - the kite did flip over and the canopy went back to normal but by this time the lines were well tangled up and was holding the bar at an angle, I was frantically trying to un-tangle the bar and lines but the kite was jumping up in the air, spinning and craching down again at a fair rate of knots. I knew I was on a losing battle and I was also heading towards some rocks.

Decided to pull the quick release and get out of there. Realised as I had never been in trouble before I couldn't remember where the chicken loop quick release was (sounds dumb I know...). So pulled my safetly line QR which obviously did jack all and then when the kite was in the water managed to un-hook the chicken loop.

I was very pleasantly suprised that without a fat Darryl on the end of it, the kite just gently blew into shore and sat there waiting for me (about 100 meters before the rocks). I managed to swim and find my board and got back to shore, so all is well. But the experience certainly shook me up and made me realise how dangerous this sport actually is.

My two learnings from this:
1) Always make sure you know where the QR systems are as when getting pulled through the water out of control you can't see too much
2) Don't be scared to seperate yourself from the kite as it tends to drift to shore and look after itself (whether I was just lucky I don't know?)
pfr
pfr
NSW
156 posts
pfr pfr
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15 Jul 2008 4:50pm
when i was flying my 04 fuel /suicide>the leash with this model fuel has no quick release,just bungee. i went to land it but forgot to take it off the chicken loop and put it on the flagging line ring.i unhooked, put the kite into a dive and this started the deathloops. lucky for me the wind was crosshore and it was a long beach with no obstacles to hit other than a rockwall about 250 meters downwind.I was getting dragged into the water,onto the sand,into the water,onto the sand.luckily there was a deadspot which gave me a split second to detatch myself. This happend 2 half yrs ago and it still is on my mind every day. Straight after this happened i launched my mate and he got lofted up on his 05 fuel,landed backwards on his arm on the low tide sand snapping his wrist and disslocating his elbow.The sound of it snapping and his screams were something i won't forget.
lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
SA, 402 posts
15 Jul 2008 4:40pm
Was kiting in some frontal winds on the estaury and the winds picked up quickly to the point I was overpowered - was out on my own and was a bit hesitant about landing as it was my second time on the Havoc - made it out as far as I could stand (100m from shore) and put the kite on the water and released the safety.

Walked up the safety to the kite when the safety broke (I could almost reach the kite) , I stood there looking at the kite with the bar and remaining lines flying towards the road and trees, all I could think of was the destruction I was going to cause as the kite crossed the busy road...

The kite made it between the trees unscathed which I couldnt believe and the remaining lines and bar snagged on the trees stopping the kite and a bystander secured the kite as I made my way from the estuary to land.

Ended up with that jelly oh sh*& feeling and have similar now as the current front is blowing tasty looking winds on the estuary right now
Johnt
Johnt
WA
108 posts
WA, 108 posts
15 Jul 2008 3:30pm
I had a black-tip cabby out in a really cross shore gusty wind. The kite dropped out of the sky and then a very strong gust took it and broke one of the lines.
I swam up to the kite without wrapping the three lines around my bar and tried to frog kick back to shore.
The more I kicked, the more the lines got tangled around my legs, body, arms and feet and the tighter they became and I didn’t want to let the kite go to undo the lines, because if it took off I would have been bounced along like a trussed chicken and drowned.
Luckily a mate came out and towed me to shore, where it took 10 minutes just to get the lines off my feet.
I still go cold when I think of it and ALWAYS have a hook knife.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
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15 Jul 2008 5:05pm
Great thread!

When I had just started kiting about 6-7 years ago I was out alone at my local beach (Semaphore). I was cruising along fine then I saw a fin around 50m away, the dark shape beneath looked fairly big, mind you not 5m or anything lol. I kept my eye on it, was watching a bit too intently and caught an edge, the thing starts heading directly for me. At this point I am starting to **** my pants, before I can get my board the thing has reached me. The water was semi-murky I couldn not make out what it was. It circles me, I naturally stop thinking about the kite and spin around following it. Accidentally in the process I steered my kite hard into the water. At this second I felt absolutely helpless, attached to a kite pulling me around I wouldn't even be able to fend off an attack.

As it happens after a circle and a half it decides not interested and disapears leaving me with a packed wetsuit and a crashed kite. I still to this day do not know wether it was a shark or a dolphin but I will never forget the helpless "oh **** I'm actually about to be eaten" feeling.
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
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15 Jul 2008 7:40pm
hitting a great white of Stocko scared me a little....but didn't "jaws" get blown up in the end?
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
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15 Jul 2008 6:19pm
last year in winter i was riding my 9waroo fully maxed out on it, doing boosts at a secret spot with rock walls on eitehr end of the small estuary and also a rock wall straight down wind, at apex of one boost bridle snaps, i drop like a rock and the uncontrolled death loops started just as i was half a meter of teh water throwing me full speed down wind n hti the water pretty flat n hard, was getting launched down towards the rock wall and the kite hit the water, just enough tim for me to breathe and grab the bar looking to see which line snapped so i can grab teh right o **** handle, getting dragged another 150 odd meters underwater doing nothing but lookin for the right handle because i didnt want my kite ending between the houses, by the time i got it sorted and flagged onto one line my kite was resting against the rocks and i was exhausted!



other session was at quinns rocks a few months ago when i was at one of the outer reefs by myself about 2 k off, as i was coming back in i saw a relatively large shadow including fin about 200m off shore, the water was insanely choppy and was rather stormy conditions... i raced towards beach as fast as i could but decided to throw a kung fu on way in, i pussied out when i got thrown way higher then expected.. last second i said stop being a bitch n do something so i threw a pull up in instead, biggest pull up ive evr done imo.. came in landed smoothly skiming along the water on top of all the chop and swell.. rogue wave stood up infront n i face planted into it, got kite above head but as i recovered n body dragged to myboard the kite just popped open a valve mid air, at this point i was ****ting because im the only person on the beach, just saw a big shadow close to where i crashed and its soo choppy i cant see the beach unless i was siting on apex of the waves.. spotted a rough direction and just swam my arse off with my board, dragged the kite in by 5th line and didnt give 2 shyts about it until i got to the beach.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
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15 Jul 2008 9:38pm
Charl surely powersliding the woodies groyne has to be up there.
Rebel
Rebel
NSW
165 posts
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15 Jul 2008 10:09pm
This was when i was fairly new to kiting
i was in waves crashed my kite just out of the break zone and as the wind was being gay and wouldnt kick my kite up.. a 6 footer finally got my kite and the submarine voyge begins.

I got dragged a good 50m underwater by my kite.
You get pulled under and dragged..

Finally i released my chicken loop then i surfaced. then another pull and release my 5th line as my kite washes up on the beach

My board was still out at sea and i have to thank the lifeguards for rescuing that
Charl dv
Charl dv
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15 Jul 2008 8:09pm
that wasnt scary that was just exiting..i got a bit carried away and took riding sliders to a new level.


Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
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15 Jul 2008 9:46pm
Charl did the Shift key abuse you as a child?
Charl dv
Charl dv
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15 Jul 2008 8:18pm
the shift key is a useless instrument because i do not care about grammar on a silly forum full of people with nothing better to do than hang around and judge others by their use of grammar and punctuation.

i hate CAPITAL letters, commas and fullstops.
lemo87
lemo87
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15 Jul 2008 10:40pm
get angry, love it!
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
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15 Jul 2008 11:17pm
Spotting a shark at Mona (I put it in the shark thread a while ago)... it was very close to me and I was very new. Took a break and got a call from my lil bro surfing down at Warriewood (the next beach along the coast) telling me that they made everyone get outof the water because of a shark. Anyway picked up the courage to go back into the water and then I crashed my kite and tangled the bridle making it super hard to relaunch. I was getting blown downwind (south) towards the rocks and to add to the awesomeness I had been struggling for about 20mins or so when I remembered the shark was probably still there...

Kept calling for help, raising my arms, no one could hear me over the waves etc, Eventually I became completely exhausted and because I had no buoyancy I started sinking between kicks and inhaled a bit of water every now and then trying to swim against my kite (how futile). Luckily surfers saw me and came and saved my ass...

I then decided I should learn to self-rescue

I'd say that and flying my kite by myself in Southerlies on Narrabeen, learning to board start in 6 foot waves getting hammered countless times being unable to dive attached to my kite and getting dragged underwater as Rebel said, it did however remove the fear factor to an extent when I got it right .

**edit** - I realise how avoidable the first situation was now that I can self-rescue, but in those moments of panic as a noob I probably would have ended up with a kite smashed on rocks or worse... at the time I obviously didn't see many ways out.

Oh and yes, I absolutely hate the feeling of helplessness when you think about some shark swimming below you that you could not see even if you knew in where it was, you just want to get OUTOF the water so fast... definatly one of those brain-snap moments where you cause yourself to panic.
Ben De Jonge
Ben De Jonge
WA
819 posts
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15 Jul 2008 9:59pm
First ever time flying a kite, no doubt about it.

A 'mate' took me down to Melville for a taster on an old Wipika white thing, 2/4 line conversion. Must have been 2003 or 04

Was howling on shore, he set me up with a harness and the bar in the shallows and went to the beach to launch me wth the very vague instructions - 'Just hold the bar and the kite will rise up and stay there, then I'll walk out to you.'

That was true for about 2 seconds until I must have steered the bar a bit, the kite whipped straight through the window, I got whipped off my feet and dragged, spinning around under the bar through the shallows, towards the beach, not really sure what to do next.

Luckily a tree between the beach and the road caught the kite for a bit so I could give the bar to my mate who had sprinted after me. I still had the wrist leash on so we were both attached to the kite as it took off again and bounced across the road.

Luckily a car ran into it and stopped it.

No one got hurt. Not even the kite.

I taught myself after that, mates are not to be trusted.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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15 Jul 2008 10:00pm
Although nothing extreme or exceptionally dangerous; I once got a feeling of utter dread waiting for impact when I was trying to teach myself back roll kiteloops. I was trying to do it with a C kite that lacked anything that could be classified as depower so the way back down was rather scary as my head was set to land first with some speed. I hated the feeling, waiting for pain, wondering if i would break my neck [30cm water] and knowing that something to do with my sinuses would be tested to its limit. Luckily nothing went bad and I just got the inside of my head flushed.

Other times I have been in a kitemare I have gone into a state where everything is in slow motion, every sense is heightened and I feel no emotion. I always remember that I can go 30 seconds with ease on empty lungs when I'm under water and focus on getting the kite under control.
poor relative
poor relative
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15 Jul 2008 10:19pm
This



Scares the **** out of me every time i see it
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
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15 Jul 2008 11:01pm
dw, i'm a lot bigger now days relli, we could be mistaken for twins!!


you should be scared

if your keen on a down winder one of these days you can come along... from North Cott to City Beach takes about an hour round trip with a stretch at the end and sometimes a cool off swim. do it about 3 times a week, only 10Km but you are running along a nudist beach so come summer I might go back to jacob's ladder
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
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15 Jul 2008 11:30pm
I don't think you were scarred then dave. But the bloody tree would have been.

Does anyone else find the wind drops to nothing along the nudist beach....Sooo annoying.
Haven't had a proper scary moment. Except when my kite almost washed into the pipe at floreat. Got lucky then. Also wiping out infront of a rather large wave. Big breath. Popped up. Even bigger wave. Bigger breath. Popped up, kite was still in air. Then Kite looped to beach to recover board.
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