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What's going on with aluula??

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Created by Youngbreezy 2 months ago, 18 Dec 2019
Youngbreezy
WA, 608 posts
18 Dec 2019 7:14AM
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Where are all the aluula kites?

Have ocean rodeo released aluula kites in aus yet?

Anyone actually ridden one yet?

How long before I can get an ultra light stiff strong 3 strut wave kite or even a super super light 1 strut??

Hurry up and change the game already!!!!!

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 870 posts
18 Dec 2019 9:26AM
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What? Why?

Gorgo
VIC, 4317 posts
18 Dec 2019 11:59AM
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Because it is a huge mistake to announce a new product, and then not deliver it in a reasonable and short time frame. We take it to mean that the product doesn't really exist.

KiteHume
NSW, 37 posts
18 Dec 2019 6:53PM
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Last I heard. Autumn some sometime.

weebitbreezy
439 posts
18 Dec 2019 9:45PM
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Same thing happened with the shift bar. That was a good 6-9 months from being able to register your email for interest until the product was physically in the shops.

I think in this case it was accidentally leaked earlier than they wanted so its probably going to be a long lead time.

EastCC
QLD, 317 posts
19 Dec 2019 5:47AM
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Final kites are in Canada now, I expect to have demo's in a few weeks in Aus.

Youngbreezy - WA in the front of the list for a demo Roam, they will be worth the wait.
In the meantime if in Perth hook up with Bonny if you get a chance, he has some demo standard dacron Roam kites over there, these are already lighter than most one strut kites.
All kite weights are listed on the Ocean Rodeo website.

bjw
NSW, 3146 posts
19 Dec 2019 8:22AM
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RRP?

Youngbreezy
WA, 608 posts
19 Dec 2019 8:26AM
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Hey nice one EastCC I am excited to see them in action!!!

Also if someone was to spill the beans on the rrp I am sure we would all be very interested

Plummet
4673 posts
19 Dec 2019 8:41AM
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bjw said..
RRP?


Is that the sound they make when they tear apart after a muppet tomohawks the kite into the water?

bjw
NSW, 3146 posts
19 Dec 2019 12:07PM
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It's a similar sound that is made when you invest in Bitcoin.

EastCC
QLD, 317 posts
26 Jan 2020 12:09PM
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I've had the Aluula Roam 10m here for a few days now, albeit in light winds, and a few peeps have had a run on it now, twintippers, SB and foilers.
All the feedback is the same, light, quick and responsive, super smooth, fantastic kite.
Wave riding and foiling is going to be crazy on this kite, it doesn't drift it floats. You have so much confidence in the kite.

Pricing, it'll be different for everyone whether they decide it's worth it for them, but for me - now I've been there I'm not sure I can go back.
My 2020 Roam 10m felt like a heavy 15m when I changed back to it.

Unfortunately we haven't been blessed with wind so its going to be up to the WA crew to get some decent video.

This kite is super stable in the air in very little wind- here's Adam from The Kite Loft giving it a test.















Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 104 posts
26 Jan 2020 2:14PM
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EastCC said..
I've had the Aluula Roam 10m here for a few days now, albeit in light winds, and a few peeps have had a run on it now, twintippers, SB and foilers.
All the feedback is the same, light, quick and responsive, super smooth, fantastic kite.
Wave riding and foiling is going to be crazy on this kite, it doesn't drift it floats. You have so much confidence in the kite.

Pricing, it'll be different for everyone whether they decide it's worth it for them, but for me - now I've been there I'm not sure I can go back.
My 2020 Roam 10m felt like a heavy 15m when I changed back to it.

Unfortunately we haven't been blessed with wind so its going to be up to the WA crew to get some decent video.

This kite is super stable in the air in very little wind.

















It was about 6 knots in the first part of the video. And more like 4knots at the end. You edited out me picking up trash from the water EastCC. And squeeljng as i whent through a heap of vlue bottles. Doing my bit!. Lol. What an incredible experience to have fun in such light wind with a run in tide.

Gazuki
WA, 1052 posts
27 Jan 2020 8:11AM
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You hinted expensive, how much for a 10m?

daddycool
WA, 325 posts
27 Jan 2020 12:03PM
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Looks like shopping bag material :)


Youngbreezy
WA, 608 posts
27 Jan 2020 12:14PM
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Damn that looks good !! There is basically no wind in that video!

I have a 10m ultra and my mate has a 10m cloud we could do a comparison once it makes its way over here

EastCC
QLD, 317 posts
27 Jan 2020 2:43PM
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Damn that looks good !! There is basically no wind in that video!

I have a 10m ultra and my mate has a 10m cloud we could do a comparison once it makes its way over here



Yeah it was really light. We only put it up to see if it would fly.
Next week mate.
That would be great.

Gazuki
WA, 1052 posts
27 Jan 2020 1:22PM
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Gazuki said..
You hinted expensive, how much for a 10m?


Sorry just checked their website.

3159 for a 10m roam with bar, thats up there.

Falco
86 posts
27 Jan 2020 2:25PM
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Gazuki said..

Gazuki said..
You hinted expensive, how much for a 10m?



Sorry just checked their website.

3159 for a 10m roam with bar, thats up there.

Is that AU or US dollars

lotofwind
NSW, 5486 posts
27 Jan 2020 6:33PM
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$3 159 for a 10m..........
Tell'em their dream'en.

That's nearly as expensive as windsurfing gear

warwickl
NSW, 1351 posts
27 Jan 2020 7:30PM
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Makes Cloud kites am absolute bargain.

iandvnt
QLD, 561 posts
27 Jan 2020 6:40PM
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10k for 3 kite quiver lol!!!!!!!!!!!

You can buy a decent car for that.

$3159 with bar and lines right?

might have to take up wingsurfing

Gorgo
VIC, 4317 posts
28 Jan 2020 10:59AM
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I assume the price information comes from here www.adventurekiteboarding.com/2020-ocean-rodeo-aluula-roam-kite/

A 10m kite only is USD$2,189.00. Transferwise converts that to AUD$3255. I assume you have to add postage, GST and duties onto that. Hopefully this is not the real price.

Kitepower shows $2280 for a 1m Switchblade. I might pay a couple of hundred dollar premium for a better kite. There's no way I am going to pay $1000 extra.

Even then, you can buy excellent kites from Switch for just over $1000.

At the moment I can't see much of a market for Aluula kites. Once the wind is 15 knots then anything will fly just fine and relaunch easily. After that it's up to the rider. Would an Aluula kite let me do anything I can't do now?

There might be a demand in the 5-15 knot range. I can foil quite comfortably in 10 knots +/- a couple of knots. I might consider an Aluula kite if it can be demonstrated that I can ride comfortably in the 5-10 knot range.

The bottom line is, I'm not going to pay big bucks for a better kite. It's more fun to practice more and just improve my skills. I might pay the extra money if it lets me do things I currently cannot do.

psychojoe
WA, 655 posts
28 Jan 2020 9:15AM
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Wow. So much negativity on this thread.
I will pay the extra. Kites last five years, average it out $200. I want the best gear money can buy

Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 104 posts
28 Jan 2020 2:21PM
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Thos prices are wrong. There were some early indicator peices that whent up and they have been revised. Ill leave it to eastcc to say but its hraps less than that

Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 104 posts
28 Jan 2020 2:29PM
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Gorgo said..
I assume the price information comes from here www.adventurekiteboarding.com/2020-ocean-rodeo-aluula-roam-kite/

A 10m kite only is USD$2,189.00. Transferwise converts that to AUD$3255. I assume you have to add postage, GST and duties onto that. Hopefully this is not the real price.

Kitepower shows $2280 for a 1m Switchblade. I might pay a couple of hundred dollar premium for a better kite. There's no way I am going to pay $1000 extra.

Even then, you can buy excellent kites from Switch for just over $1000.

At the moment I can't see much of a market for Aluula kites. Once the wind is 15 knots then anything will fly just fine and relaunch easily. After that it's up to the rider. Would an Aluula kite let me do anything I can't do now?

There might be a demand in the 5-15 knot range. I can foil quite comfortably in 10 knots +/- a couple of knots. I might consider an Aluula kite if it can be demonstrated that I can ride comfortably in the 5-10 knot range.

The bottom line is, I'm not going to pay big bucks for a better kite. It's more fun to practice more and just improve my skills. I might pay the extra money if it lets me do things I currently cannot do.



The kite doesnt just fly better in light wind. The wieght reduction also allows it to drift better. The stiffness allows it to turn faster, and the durability means it will requier less repairs due to reef, rock cuts and such. For an instructor, its almost paramount to have one as it opens up your lesson days heaps. And while the price may be more. I think it will reduce your quiver size.

ActionSportsWA
WA, 749 posts
28 Jan 2020 12:17PM
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From what I have heard, the Aluula makes a huge difference to kites larger than 9m, but the performance difference in 9 and smaller is not really enough to warranty the steep price tag.

We should have Aluula kites next season (2021). Everything I've heard about the Aluula is amazing and this info was not just from OR reps, so all good. I'm looking forward to these kites but more from a foiling perspective where larger kites will fly better with the reduced weight.

The price of standard quality brand kites is "up there" already and we are getting "push back" from many buyers at todays prices, so I don't expect the take up to be massive from the surf crew in WA who all use kites smaller than 9m, but like I said, the foilers who want light wind performance and don't want to go with a ram air foil kite, this could be a good choice. Having said that, a counter to these could also be the Flysurfer Peak 4 single skin kites than fly well in less than 4 knots and will be less than 1/3 the price of Aluula kites.

I just don't know, but am staying very open minded on this one. I like new tech

Just my 2c worth.

DM

dachopper
WA, 1457 posts
28 Jan 2020 12:56PM
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Gazuki said..


Gazuki said..
You hinted expensive, how much for a 10m?




Sorry just checked their website.

3159 for a 10m roam with bar, thats up there.



up there.... its about the same as Duotone !

I remember it being marketed as lighter than the 1 struts..... so what does the 10 meter roam weigh?

Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 104 posts
28 Jan 2020 4:16PM
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ActionSportsWA said..
From what I have heard, the Aluula makes a huge difference to kites larger than 9m, but the performance difference in 9 and smaller is not really enough to warranty the steep price tag.

We should have Aluula kites next season (2021). Everything I've heard about the Aluula is amazing and this info was not just from OR reps, so all good. I'm looking forward to these kites but more from a foiling perspective where larger kites will fly better with the reduced weight.

The price of standard quality brand kites is "up there" already and we are getting "push back" from many buyers at todays prices, so I don't expect the take up to be massive from the surf crew in WA who all use kites smaller than 9m, but like I said, the foilers who want light wind performance and don't want to go with a ram air foil kite, this could be a good choice. Having said that, a counter to these could also be the Flysurfer Peak 4 single skin kites than fly well in less than 4 knots and will be less than 1/3 the price of Aluula kites.

I just don't know, but am staying very open minded on this one. I like new tech

Just my 2c worth.

DM


Less weight =more drift not sure the peak is really up to drifting, or relaunching in waves. Plus the stiff frame which makes the kite faster on the aluula. Overall longevity in a kite will be worth the money.

Adam''KiteRepair
NSW, 104 posts
28 Jan 2020 4:20PM
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dachopper said..

Gazuki said..



Gazuki said..
You hinted expensive, how much for a 10m?





Sorry just checked their website.

3159 for a 10m roam with bar, thats up there.




up there.... its about the same as Duotone !

I remember it being marketed as lighter than the 1 struts..... so what does the 10 meter roam weigh?


1.78 kg

Mono 9 2.6kg
Mono 11 2.9kg

Gazuki
WA, 1052 posts
28 Jan 2020 1:48PM
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1.7KG ???? A lot of extra cash for 500g

A 10m Core section weights 2.35kg



iandvnt
QLD, 561 posts
28 Jan 2020 4:32PM
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Twist /flex (towards tips) allows kites to turn faster

i don't see a current problem with drift that needs solving unless you are into super lightwind wave riding which is kind of useless anyway if there is any kind of downwind angle.

Hopefully this new material is cheaper than dacron!



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