who's on a mission then?

someones in for a good thruster then!
but on a serious note, all the new owners of crossbows i've talked to have not related any bad vibe about their purchase.
i think the kite has been quite well researched, compared to other products.

quote " Wouldnt it be great to have a kite that boosts, relaunches and depowers like the bow, yet offered the pure grunt, speed and wakey feel of a c
what would that look like? "

sounds just like an F-one Impact !

Hi poor relative

Coming back to the question you asked at the begining , the main thing that I find is lack of familiarity when riding the bows .

I have been kiting for 4 years , I have finally figured out how to do the things I want to with a C kite and now I get given a kite that flys totally differently . " I don't think I like it "

I have only used a bow about half a dozen times but didn't enjoy myself and got frustrated each time .

I feel it comes down to what you want out of the kite , I ride waves and only use a surfboard (no jumping for me anymore ) so I was very interested in the bows after reading Marks Shinn's write up claiming it as the best wave kite ever .
For the conditions I ride in and for my style of riding I feel I get more out of the C kites .

The biggest advantage is the turning , with c kites you can feel where they are and what they are doing . I also like to ride in the sweet spot of the range for a kite as this keeps it super responsive . With the the bows I found they had good range but were only as responsive as c's in a narrow band .

Like I said , its all about the conditions you ride in . If we had cross-off winds (like Mark Shinn ) and wanted to get onto a wave and then drastically reduce the power they would be great but while I am riding Scarbs slop in onshore winds I will stick to my c's as I find them easier to use . If I lived somewhere that didn't have constant winds and was very frontal I would probably be more interested in the bows but living in Perth it is easy enough to put up a kite and be in the sweet spot of its range .

Hope this makes some sense to you because , as always ,I am still fairly confused .

PS. Similar thing last night. The wind picked up to 20-25 knots and a guy on a 15m Fuel gets lofted out of the water half way up the beach.

Meanwhile guys on 12 Crossbow and Switchblade and 16m Crossbow were happily riding and did not even notice the increased wind strength.

Even when just cruising most guys are doing downturn transitions just because it is fun and so easy to do.

hey chimp boy
you're very much the poser aren't you? Do you make sure that on your way in, you are in the best position to show off to the adoring crowds?
Who cares?! I couldn't give a **** what people ride or what tricks theyre doing as long as they're having fun...and not being a little show pony for the kids playing with a bucket and spade on the beach.

Poor rellie, maybe its a little too early to say whether the bow is a complete success (still some small problems like folding and the kite inverting) but the traditional kites went through the same process. Its only one stage! It'll soon sort itself out.

Cheers
Dan

I am really happy with the bow cause i do not get out much. I certainly do not see myself improving with the once a week if i am lucky action. It is a pity i would have loved to devote myself to this sport but no time and age has caught me. Are they the long boards of kiting? i like that i think they are when i use em.

I can get out there and ride in all conditions cause of the depower. I do not have to stay strong and my permantly stuffed knee gets a rest. As much as i hate to admit it i gotta just stand back and watch the dudes "rip". thank god for the bow. But i wish i did not need it so much. I reakon a c kite would bash me now

well firstly TOTHEPOINT you are really great I am so glad you have mada it to 4 posts and all in the bow section hip hip hurray

Second I am a demi god I am not ashamed to admit it.
and I would like you to know I look really good On my peak shaped kite lets face it bows look very much like the shape of a baseball caps peak.

I think I should also mention That it has been pionted out that I am even better looking now I have bow kites I am by far the most sexy guy on the water becouse of my peak shaped kite every one knows it thats just a fact

Bridles are gay.
Pulleys are pus.

I'm so glad that kitesurfing is moving forward towards simplicity and not becoming over-engineered.

Regards
'slave

If bows are so good, how many of the pro riders use them on the pkra tour, from what I have seen not many.Naish are marketing their bow kite just for wave riding, a very smart move I think as c shape will be around for a long time yet.

Its all about driving those FN things.........that's all...who gives a Flying **** what you fly, drive or dodo..........too sad. TV might actually be better tonight.....nah doubt it.

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Originally posted by carbine

Anyway using your reasoning
Look at the world champion what does he fly? Flexifoil, I've seen one flexifoil in Perth and they were actually the world champions (now dan andersons dad flys them). Does that mean everyone is flying subpar kites? or that the kite doesnt really make a difference in competition?

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No that mean Flexifoil should have done better marketing in OZ... or on this forum !

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Originally posted by greenleader

i was in baghdad before you were in dads bag.

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Then you will be well aware, just as the rest of us veterens that two line kite's had bridals & pulleys...

What were bridals for again , to get the kite to turn !

What were the pulleys for , to speed up the turns of the kites !

regards browneee

Chill Rich, your riding speaks volumes

regards browneee

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Originally posted by greenleader

kite simplicity.

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Kite simplicity is an illusion !. To give something the appearenceing of simplicity, it has taken hundreds of man/womans hours in research & development, testing and riding to get it right. Just so when it hits the customers hot little hands it's simple !

I give credit where credit is due. The LB's & Takoon have developed awell thought out product for 05/06. Personally I think these style kites will be radically different in 06/07. Like I mensioned above, when a bow kite has no requirement for a bridal to support its structure or pulleys to aid in it's turning performance, then I think we'll be onto something remarkable...

Thats what we're striving for at bestkiteboarding...