thanks general. I think they are out with their measurements... 5-23knots for a 13m. Was their rider a toddler?

The ranges on their site are for land, sea and snow. Hence they look huge.
I have a P3 13 and I do get a big range out of it.

Starts at about 11kn on a BIG board. The fun really starts 14knots.
I can hold it down in the high 20s but that is no fun. Starts to get a bit much at 23kn.

Obviously it all depends on the board and the choppiness of the water too.

mike

Heya!

For comparision, I have a Speed 1st genneration 13 m that I use:

17M Speed @ about 75kgs
On my Slingshot Glide (ultra light wind board) I can get up & going @ 6kts then upwind with any added apparent wind. But (esp if its not a super consistent 6kts+) its a battle to maintain anything workable unless you just keep going in a straight line. At anything consistent above 7kts then ur away - no problem.
On a 137TT the fun starts at about 8kts thru to about 13kts when it begins to feel like ur wakeboarding behind the Manly ferry. You could still work it beyond that, Im sure, but by then I reckon its time for something smaller & faster.

I reckon its a great option for lightwind AND especially good for heavyweight kiters in lighter winds because it really does have the grunt of bulldozer. When you push and hold a really solid edge this kite points upwind like you wouldnt believe. Unreal.

(sorry - dont know anything about the psycho's )

RHS mixer lines B and C shortened 1cm, I'm excited!!! Pity it's night-time and I'm in Toowoomba, I want to try that tractor pulling again .

17m P3 will turn slower and point a little less upwind (not by a huge margin though) than 15m Speed2

The only thing I've heard from FS Germany is that the Psycho4 should be out by Oct 08 - and it's definitely a ram-air foil

There's already too many inflatable brands in the market so I can't see FS starting to make them

Thanks for the input Ian. I was curious which FS kites are in your quiver this year?

PS. although the LEI foil topic is so overplayed: I think that the bridling of foils coupled with the rigidity of LEI's is the kite of the future. No current LEI matches the complete bar feel of a FS at the moment. It seems FS are slowly introducing more canopy structure to their kites which is a step in that direction....

ianyoung said...

Hey Puppet you should modify your Speed1 to give it much more depower - it's not simple but it gives great results - not as good as the Speed2 but they call it the Speed1.5 - try the demo I have in Choicey's shop & copy the mod if you like it.

Ian

I have a 13m Speed 1 and would like the 1.5 mod. If sent it to you, would you do the mod? I am happy to pay for your time and materials.

mark h said...

Hey Puppet

My 17M Speed 1 is on its way back from the USA where I have just had the 1.5 conversion done, I’m not in to spaghetti engineering so decided to get a professional job done.

I had a test fly on Ian’s 17m prior to sending it off, with the conversion it felt like the kite had twice as much depower than before, Had it out on the water in about 15knots and still felt in control

The all up cost including shipping, insurance etc was just under $500, a small price to pay to get the big scary Speed 1 out of the bag and back on the water.

Cheers

Mark

Mark

Can you provide some details on where you sent your kite and how?

Have you got it back yet?

Thanks in advance

rooey said...

Hay flysurfer groupies,what would a 68kilo North Rebel kiter, who is getting pretty keen on these Flysurfer kites need to convince him of buying one.......a roughy on size n price would be appreciated....p.s wind range 12-25 knots,flat water and small surf?

10M for sure! Pulse2, more stable and floaty for surf, but still heaps of lift for flat water and excellent upwind and jumping.

Regards

steve

Hay lads,I still can't find prices on Flysurfer kites on the net...any sugestions?,also is there major differences between models?...cheers

Thanks Steve...Noosa (sunycoaster)....yes the flysurfer range look impressive....don't see many in the air up this way?

Cheers Mathias,thanks for the imput.....yes the flying Doona's have some great advantages....be good to see a comparison of Peter Lyn and Flysurfer kites!