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diginoz
diginoz
WA
317 posts
WA, 317 posts
9 Apr 2008 9:57pm
A quick q for all you boys who never had to learn. ive had 3 lessons ( by a qualified iko instructor ) and been told that to advance any more i need to buy a kite and practice my body draggin .WHEN IVE LEARNT HOW TO HANDLE THE KITE I CAN BOOK MY NEXT LESSON .which will be in september if im lucky .only problem is all the kite pros ( well i can stand up carnt i ) seem to be slaggin all the newbees of for takeing over THEIR beach. If you read this forum and others like it to try and make sure your prepaired for going on the water theirs not to much encouragement for those of us who think were trying to do the right thing .
diginoz
diginoz
WA
317 posts
WA, 317 posts
9 Apr 2008 10:00pm
PS , I can spell what its the rest of my grammer i suffer with
harrytesties
harrytesties
133 posts
133 posts
9 Apr 2008 10:08pm
how do you type when you're drunk...?
harrysurfer
harrysurfer
WA
254 posts
WA, 254 posts
9 Apr 2008 10:28pm
go down to your local spot be nice make friends ask someone to launch you and off you go. just dont put yourself in dangerous conditions and you will be fine. ie 25knts+ until you are confident

double check your gear/safety release make sure lines connected properly
kite downwind of advanced riders
start off by not going too far out
and remember let go of the bar if overpowered or chicken loop unhooks from harness

might as well try the board straight away and you will get plenty of practice body dragging when retrieving your board.

to slow down edge hard upwind or drag your butt in the water. good luck mate you will be up and running in no time
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
10 Apr 2008 12:32am
Sound advice,i loved the bit about slowing down by dragging your bum
It reminded me of someone[}:)][}:)][}:)]
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
10 Apr 2008 8:35am
Start of by telling the "pro" guys to get ****ed. But don't go out to get in their way, and make an effort not to. Unless they actually own the beach.
Get out as much as you can. How quickly you are up and running basically depends on the time you can get on the water.
bobjaan
bobjaan
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
10 Apr 2008 8:47am
Yeah, go down the beach and chat to a couple of people, ask what size kite they putting up and you could do the same or go a little smaller to be safe.
Once rigged ask someone down the beach to check your lines if you unsure and just reiterate to them that you are learning and that any help would be much appreciated.

Newbies come down our beach all the time, Most people on your beach will be more than happy to spend 15 minutes of their time helping you out. I do all the time.

It makes sense because then they make the sport safer in their area and don't attract any unwanted attention.

If you try being freindly and you come across a complete tool, then move onto the next looking freindly guy or girl.

But take peoples advice, the thing that really pisses me off is when I even approach a learner that I can see is going to get into trouble and they just go yeah yeah had my lessons so leave me alone. Then you sit and wait for the accident to happen, usually some guy on 12m when everyone else on 8,9m and then it is show time for the locals. Those are the guys that don't come back
buckwheat
buckwheat
WA
85 posts
WA, 85 posts
10 Apr 2008 10:51am
diginoz, I was in your shoes a couple of months back, and I too noticed all the negativity on this forum to noobs. But then when I read between the lines, it seems to be more towards people who ignore quality advice and don't respect others. Therefore, in line with the advice already offered:

1. Ask locals about local etiquette. Eg the Safety Bay pond looks very inviting, but generally it is used by advanced riders. Learners should stick to the ocean side.
2. Ask locals about quirks - eg the left hand side of the Pt Walter spit can have wind shadow and cause dramas when launching. There's also a lot of rocks on the nth side
3. Ask advice as to kite size if its howling.
4. Let them know you're a noob and any advice they can offer is welcome.
5. Look where you're going at all times in order to avoid collisions.

I've used the above approach until I get the hang of a site, and everyone has been nothign but super friendly.

I've also tried to gently offer advice to people (launching downwind comes to mind) and been completely ignored. They're the sorts people on this forum complain about.

Good luck!
diginoz
diginoz
WA
317 posts
WA, 317 posts
10 Apr 2008 8:45pm
Thanks for the advice ' its why i joined to try and pick up some tips and ideas. Any how i made my way to my local beach today to finally get my kite in the air and do some draggin got the kite up went down the beach up to the point where the locals were flying kept the kite at twelve and walked back to my start point. came back down started to walk to land only to be dunked by a 3m bloody wave spun around for about ten seconds came out to see my kite in the water and a fellow kiteboarder to check i was ok and retreive my kite ( if it was you thankyou for your help ) my son was watching and thought i playing around ? instead of helping . this leads me on to my next question in the new post .
falconsforge
falconsforge
QLD
3 posts
QLD, 3 posts
10 Apr 2008 11:29pm
Welcome to crash and burn hell. Having just made my first actual ride I can well sympathize. Time, patience and the willingness to forcibly ingest vast quantities of seawater are in hand. Tip one, bribe an experienced rider to baby sit you and tell you not to choke the kite (repeat arms out, arms out, justin case you weren't sure arms out) I dont have much experience past this point but this was a major turning point for me. Im assured this is the hardest stage of kitesurfing (easy for them that make it look simple) but its a great feeling when you get it. I'm looking forward to duplicating my magnificent example of controlling several uncontrollable forces at once (for several seconds at least/someone taking a pic of me not face planting). 11 am to 3 pm, commit and point downwind. Dont choke your kite and keep your arms bent. CYA when we get to boosting bro!
falconsforge
falconsforge
QLD
3 posts
QLD, 3 posts
10 Apr 2008 11:38pm
Tip 2 If you need an experienced rider to babysit you. Hang around your local and launch/catch lots of kites. This is a great community and a little effort goes a long way.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
11 Apr 2008 1:28am
Diginoz,

I think the kind of newbies people hate on this forum are the ones that come down to the beach and don't chat to anyone before deciding to head out, then get all aggro when someone suggests they would be safer at a spot 100m up the beach.

If you take the time to say hi to a few people, get some advice on wind and the best place you should go then its generally cool. If you go out of your way to launch a few guys kites then you can't go wrong.

Even though you have had lessons its still a steep learning curve from here, and you are going to need help from others. The community spirit is what sets kitesurfing apart.

Good luck mate, be prepared to push yourself and spend a lot of time on the beach after blowing your chicken loop! You will beat yourself around the head for a while, then one day the penny will drop and you will forget all the pain of learning! Master your upwind body dragging and you will be away!
mikeb
mikeb
QLD
126 posts
QLD, 126 posts
11 Apr 2008 10:03am
diginoz,

you will find the majority of kites will be happy to help out and prefer someone is learning with a bit of supervision, your doing the right thing by working on your kite skills, ignore the anyone who gets on a high horse, they all had to learn too but conveniently have a short term memory.
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