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daggy
daggy
WA
528 posts
WA, 528 posts
7 Apr 2005 5:42pm
now I'm just muckin' around so don;t take this too seriously o.k.?
I was down at Bunnings the other day and found a piece of CRAFTWOOD(like chipboard but very fine 'grain') measuring 1200 X 450 x 16mm price of $9.70 so I m thinking my boards got removable foot plates , right, So give me one good reason why for less than ten bucks I couldn't buy this wood , give it a once over with the old jig-saw, a couple of coats of paint from the shed, screw my liquid force foot plates to it and RIDE LIKE THE WIND BABY.
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my first thought was that maybe craftwood dont float? Hmmm what do you reckon- yeah I know this idea is a bit wak but there aint no wind and I'm going stir crazy sitting here.
addicted
addicted
WA
42 posts
WA, 42 posts
7 Apr 2005 6:18pm
Hey daggy how they hanging?

The thought is there
craftwood or MDF is not the stuff to use, it there is any exposed spot to water it will suck up the ocean and sink quicker than you can say where's my reciept.
There are some ideas on the link below.
Good luck and get ready for the baggers.
What about an old surfboard from the tip or garage sale?

http://web.media.mit.edu/~saul/zeroprestige/boards.htm

See ya
Nigel
cliffor123
cliffor123
455 posts
455 posts
7 Apr 2005 6:29pm
if you want something to do make a board out of carbon fiber of fiberglass, its not that hard to do and it will actually be a good light board.
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
7 Apr 2005 7:44pm
you probably want to use something like marine ply ... which is not nearly as cheap

quixand
quixand
WA
76 posts
WA, 76 posts
7 Apr 2005 7:55pm
Hey there,

My first two boards were built out of ply (standard stuff, not marine). I just had it lying around so cost was nothing, but you can get it for not that much.

Basically I glued 3x 3 or 4mm sheets together with bricks in the middle and stands on the end (to put in some rocker), gave it a few coats of varnish and thats about it. Made some fins out of plastic as well, but I think you can get away without them (i know others have).

Both boards are still going strong, and were plenty good enough for me to learn on. I have a production board now because I wanted something a bit lighter, but hey what have you got to lose? Give it a shot.
Ian Grose
Ian Grose
TAS
423 posts
TAS, 423 posts
7 Apr 2005 10:29pm
Looking for cheap fins for a custom board?

Try the Airborne Carpark Clearance on Saturday @ 10.00am.

Good quality fins from $5.00

www.airbornekitesurfing.com
CAUTION
CAUTION
WA
1097 posts
WA, 1097 posts
8 Apr 2005 6:49am
airborne airbone, yadda yadda

go the thin ply, then you will end up with a flexy board like the so called "trends" these days
look out underground...
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
8 Apr 2005 4:26pm
I made a board from MDF (from bunnings) and it didn't take on any water... the trick was to seal it with a layer of epoxy resin (ie the glass bit of fiberglass) This makes it heavy but i made it 100 x 38 so the weight was fine. I used the 12mm I think and it was strong enough.

I got a $6 pair of thongs (with a wide footstrap) from woolies and screwed them onto the board with some bike tyre (free from a bike shop) over the top to reinforce the thong's straps. I didn't bother with fins.

The board was fun to ride... in a way. It was a bit like jumping on a trick ski for the first time, or maybe a snowboard. Very slidey and it threw up a sweet wall of spray. It went like a rocket but due to the shortness it would get up to speed, catch the nose and I would cartwheel spectactularly. I was going to add some flip tips to help this, but then I decided to try to make a mini foil board out of it, with a 1ft winged fin giving 6 inch water clearance at speed. The project stalled out there as I couldn't find something cheap, light and strong to make the fin out of (I was sniffing round those 'stingray' anti-cav plates they sell for outboards, etc..)

Anyway I made the next one out of marine ply and it was far more expensive and far less fun. Flex v. weight is the biggest problem with bigger ply boards.
daggy
daggy
WA
528 posts
WA, 528 posts
9 Apr 2005 7:29pm
Jeeez, and I thought my head was screwed on lightly.
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thanks for the input guys. Had a good ride last night , about 5.30 at brighton before the 30 knotters came through, hope we got some more decent winds coming! before the long dark winter.
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
QLD, 617 posts
9 Apr 2005 11:44pm
Hey Daggy

I have made 5 plywood boards from 125 to 155 in size.

I wanted to have a variety and did not want to spend up big on a production board until I was sure of what I needed.

The boards were constructed from a core of 7 ml ply with 2 ml ply veneers on the outside. The 7 ml core has extensive cut outs. I just left material where the footpads and fins are bolted through and of course right around the edges.

The three layers were laminated together with Polyester Resin and laid upside down on a small table with the tips hanging over each edge. I just put two besser blocks on each end to create end rocker.

Once the resin was set I cut out the shape of the tips with a jigsaw and used a 45 degree router bit to create a 45 degree bevel right around the edge.

It was finished with a layer of silk on the bottom for graphics and coated with two layers of resin for strength.

These boards have no rocker apart from at the tips. They are upwind machines and absorb the shock of chop extremely well. Several guys at the beach have ridden them and I have been asked many times if I make them for sale.

The harder it blows the more rocker you progressively get.

After 8 months of riding them I bought a Lightwave 125 05 model. While this is a good board I still really feel more comfortable on my ply boards due to the very "cruisy" feel and the softness of the ride. (My knees are F*****d)

The pads, straps and fins can be always used on other boards you make or buy.

I will attempt to send you some pics and diagrams of the finished product as I am not sure if it is possible to post pictures on this forum.

See Ya - Regards - Fitzy

kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
10 Apr 2005 10:40pm
Here's another tip: a mate of mine made some nice wooden boards and he used to buy $2 chopping boards from crazy clarks and shape them into fins with a jigsaw and upside down belt sander. You need to clamp them tight to drill out the screw holes. Takes some time but you end up with the size and shape you want for under a dollar a fin!
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
QLD, 617 posts
11 Apr 2005 10:07am
Hey Daggy

Clean out your mailbox. My email to you can't get through.

Fitzy
Cooky
Cooky
WA
148 posts
WA, 148 posts
11 Apr 2005 9:41am
Fitzy I'm keen on making some boards as I can gett all the materials really cheaply through my old man(boatbuilder). pls send me pics and info that you tried to send to daggy.
daggy
daggy
WA
528 posts
WA, 528 posts
13 Apr 2005 9:03am
I've been E - jacked.
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Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
QLD, 617 posts
13 Apr 2005 10:15pm
Bummer !
richo
richo
QLD
337 posts
QLD, 337 posts
15 Apr 2005 8:57pm
i have ridden fitzy's 140 it rocks really smooth through chop and upwind machine very nice.
bertram
bertram
QLD
36 posts
QLD, 36 posts
29 Sep 2005 6:49pm
hey fitzy do you still have the plans for those boards?

im about to try one myself would love some advice...
thanks
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
QLD, 617 posts
29 Sep 2005 10:09pm
Have posted some pics in the Photos section of this site. Go to Photos and look under the "other" heading. Pics of the finished board and the internal sections. I make them this way to save weight.

The one shown is 140 X 39. Good all round size and very good in chop due to the soft flex of the plywood.

Have made 125X39 130X39 135X39 140X39 155X39

Cheap As !!!!

Regards Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
29 Sep 2005 10:12pm
none of them seem to go missing on the broadwater!
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
QLD, 617 posts
29 Sep 2005 10:20pm
Nope !! They all have names and answer my call

Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
dun-king
dun-king
QLD
66 posts
QLD, 66 posts
30 Sep 2005 2:04am
hey fitzy
thats a bloody good idea about the 7mm core with serious cut outs to save weight.
the only thing you need i think is to find out how much a vacuum former is. basically a bag and a hoover.
after applying glue , put in former , over blocks to create desired rocker, and switch on and wait to till dry.

bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
30 Sep 2005 10:18am

is that what the vacuum bag is for? just for the rocker? i made a woody and just stuck it on some planks and weighted it in the middle whilst it dried, seemed to work fine.. what does the vacuum bag add?
dun-king
dun-king
QLD
66 posts
QLD, 66 posts
30 Sep 2005 4:15pm
a mate made a skate board in a vacuum former
it was concave all over , not just the tips
a vacuum former sucks all the ply's together nice and tight over whatever shape you lay under the board . you could play about with amounts of rocker and where you want it , a bit better than 2 bricks. but only worth it i suppose if your going to be making a few
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
30 Sep 2005 2:54pm
with the vacuum bags,
do you have to keep running the vacuum continuously or only until all the air is out??

How long does it take to dry?
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
30 Sep 2005 5:06pm
yeh its hard to get the rocker right with bricks - once you take the weight off you lose a little bit of the rocker, but its also easy to put too much in... and of course concave is near impossible to achieve with bricks, unless someone has a techinique im not aware of????
don
don
QLD
56 posts
don don
QLD, 56 posts
30 Sep 2005 5:43pm
Hey daggy I've made a number of wooden boards using a foam sandwich method with styrofoam and 3mm ply from bunnings. All the details are in a reply to Brady on the 3/7/05. Have a read because they work well,are light, strong and cheap. Don
Emu
Emu
NSW
24 posts
Emu Emu
NSW, 24 posts
30 Sep 2005 9:47pm
Coupla comments:

You don't need to fork out for "marine" grade unless you are going to immerse your board forever. Exterior grade is fine, readily available and half the price. I went with 12mm and its brilliant. I'd recommend making the first board out of 12mm before getting carried away with cutouts. I accept that the craftsmanship is a thing of beauty, but summer is coming and you don't want to spend a whole weekend on the board when you could be out there. Don't worry about rocker, the ply will return to original shape in time - besides, it bends enough when you ride it.

Taking the fins off gives it a different feel and there are some vocal advocates of no fins, but when it comes down to it there is a very good reason why nearly every production board you see has fins. Stiff, thin, symetrical and smooth fins are the way to go. The airbourne things (above) sound interesting.

Matt
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
30 Sep 2005 10:05pm
You thought you had some crazy home made board ideas, check out these guys!
www.mit.edu/people/robot/zp/zeroprestige.html
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
30 Sep 2005 8:18pm
ironing the board
thats a new one to me
elizabethb
elizabethb
QLD
2081 posts
QLD, 2081 posts
30 Sep 2005 10:23pm
Fitzy - Can I ask whether you just use galvanized screws to hold down the footstraps and the handle-bar and then just use an angelgrinder to get rid of the excess screw that went through to the base of the board; or do you do something else? Cheers mate- Great looking board and method
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
30 Sep 2005 10:38pm
unfortunately fitzy has gone mad from breathing sawdust and sniffing resin.
his carer has taken him to the pictures.
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