i am about to get a large kite 18+. Anyone want to offer something, the money is burning a hole in my pocket!!!!!!
The liquid force M80 has been delayed (the source is good, i am not saying why cause i am not allowed) So for all those keen give it a bit more time. It should be a great kite

Titanium laminate is there new material
Should be good will bring the price of the chrome domes down

If your looking for something around Sydney, Longreef has an 04 pheonix pretty cheap, and would probably be either 21 or 25m. I think it's around $1000, and they were around $3000 new, so it'd be under cost. Don't know whether it's new or a demo though... If it is the demo then I know it hasn't been flown much anyway. I've been demoing their 22m pheonix II for ages now, so if you wanna go of that then you can grab it for a go(if your in Sydney that is). It works great in light winds and amazingly has great high end too. I can hold it up to about 18knots, and I'm having fun in 10knots. HTH.