No kickers and no sliders = no pics. Sorry.

yeah...y there no kickers and sliders??

hey i got a sick kicker if ne one can take it down and up
its not to heavy 2 people can carry it around with easily but its 4 foot high and 8 foot long and 1.2m wide if ne one has a van would fit prob
and be sick

call me if any one can take 0433321645 or just reply here

Ok,
Here's the skinny.
The area at kitestock is gazetted, so theoreticaly a kicker/slider could be placed in the water outside the gazetted area.

The gazetted area is pretty much the whole of Port Gregory except for the swimming beach which is right next to the moored cray boats. which is a no go zone for kiters at anytime.

If a kicker/slider is placed in the water in this area then it is outside of the event area.

The tricky part is this, if you are registered to ride in kitestock and something goes wrong outside the gazetted area which has been endorsed by AKSA and the insurance provider to the WA Government, Can you see where I am heading with this.

Basically, I doubt that the AKSA policy would cover you considering that you were at a registered event in which you registered to participate in and you hurt another person by kiting outside the gazetted area.

The resultant dramas for kiting would be significant, and for the sorry dude who wraps his kite around a 1 million dollar cray boat and strips their arials isn't exactly creating good will towards the kind fishing folk of Pt Gregory.

If it's just you hurting yourself, I know you are going to say that if I hurt myself I won't sue/blame someone else for my own actions. Unfortunately the reason insurance liability is required by the Shire/councils etc. is to protect them against people placing blame.

I'll give you a scenario that might help you to see the issue from an event organisation perspective.

A kiter attempts to ride a slider, mistimes it, slams into the side without a helmet on, goes unconscious. The risk management plan must reflect the abilty to prevent this person from dying right through to getting them to medical care.

To have sliders and kickers in the water at an event in WA there is a lot of "risk" that the event organiser must assume.

Lets take the above scenario and say that there was no-one on site at that moment in time to prevent you from passing on to the afterlife. (we are all kiting)
If your Mum or Dad wanted to come after me for not having adequate safety provisions in place, they are quite within their rights to do so and I would lose. I'd probably get a slap on the wrist and have to walk around with the guilt of being responsible for your death in the eyes of the law. That's best case scenario.

This is an event in it's first year, maybe in years to come we will have a full slider park at Kitestock, and I think that would be just awesome!. But for starters, let's just cope with the largest number of kiters ever assembled on the West coast.

I think that's quite enough for one weekend, don't you?.

Kickers and sliders are cool and fun, but as you will see on Auto focus, things do, and can go wrong.

I hope this has cleared things a bit for you kicker and slider lovers.

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Originally posted by hirschausen
for starters, let's just cope with the largest number of kiters ever assembled on the West coast.
I think that's quite enough for one weekend, don't you?.

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KN oath it is
I can almost guarantee that next years kitestock will include kickers & sliders (fully legit & fully part of the party) but for this year guys Im afraid that we just didnt have time to build em into the 'official' program.
If there are kickers &/or sliders there (and there almost certainly will be) they WILL NOT be sanctioned as part of the 'kitestock' event.
We will be advising all participants that using these 'kite aids' will negate any involvement in the official event.
Sorry - but that is just the way it has to be this time round.

so how come events such as tannum sands mambo and any other events over on the east.. are flooded with kickers and sliders....
why cant we put them in the event area... if you say kickers and sliders will come in years to come why not now!!! we have many kickers and sliders that could go up so construction isnt an issue its just transport...

Is there a WRITE ONLY mode that some people are in?

I like the questions, it's all good for letting you know how it is in this fine state we call WA.

Firstly,
1. In WA it's not like the east coast. I don't know how it works with insurance of events over there. But in this state we have an insurance company that covers ALL and I say ALL WA shires. Now they are a bit like your 14yr old school girl whc is slightly overweight and doesn't like the water. getting her to dive into the deep end and swim under water like a dolphin is a bit high an expectation. She is very risk adverse especially when she keeps reading about all these dangers in deep water. (assume the kiters doing stupid things like DYING as the dangers)

So that's the first thing.

Second,
In putting together a risk management plan it requires the event coordinator, safety coordinator and responsible body organising the event; to consider ALL risks.

It doesn't take long to realise that kickers and sliders are fixed objects in the water that if crashed into pose a bit of a hazard to 99% of the kiting population who don't usualy have to contend with such things in a new kiting location. With a bunch of kiters around they don't know who also haven't kited at this location is another consideration.

So to manage kickers and sliders effectively and assume responsibility for ALL OF THE KITERS the event organisers have to have some sort of plan and strategy to limit the possibility of injury occurring resulting in death and to also manage that injury should it occur.

Sadly, this takes a lot of work developing the plan through to managing it. If people are quite happy to sit around a kicker zone and MANAGE it's use for kitestock wonderful. Those people need to be trained in first aid to respond to a kiter who doesn't quite get it right.

Unfortunately there isn't a group/individual who has put their hand up to manage this for kitestock. If we had more volunteers prepared to do this, which would indicate to me that it's wanted by the MAJORITY as a PRIORITY in WA then we wouldn't be having this conversation. we would be looking forward to kickers and sliders at the first kitestock.

next question please.

i dont think there will be a rad kicker scene. WA isnt like qld, not many people ride bindings and there aint all that many people who have/can/will hit a kicker.

I might be totaly wrong here, but im looking forward to a good vibe zone of like minded people, to celebrate kitesurfing, just have fun no sub groups no agro competition vibe, I thank the organization for putting on such a thing, it almost sounds too good to be true.

Hey Guys,

What ever happened to the big inflatable sliders? I think there was one called a Fat Randal????? Surely an inflatable would be all good for next year, a nice safe option for all the punters to have a go. Simply bounce off if you miss the line up. No death or guts spilling out in the event of an accident.

Check this out http://www.colonawatersports.com/news.htm

Or after having visited their website, I reckon they have heaps of other more fun "obstacles" for "Park" riding. Check the link below.

www.ravesports.com/water_trampolines/

Good winds,

Leave her home, her self-esteem is already low enough referring to her as that.

Inflatable sliders are good in theory but can they handle a severe fins-first impact.
Kitestock would be the perfect opportunity to test them out.
I say submarine these sausage sliders.

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Originally posted by kiterpilot
You phuk up you bounce off...

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Yeah, all the way to Rocko hospital

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Originally posted by Shannon

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Originally posted by kiterpilot
You phuk up you bounce off...

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Yeah, all the way to Rocko hospital

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Yeah I still cant figure out what you did that on ?