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theDoctor
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5 Feb 2012 6:55pm


what a lucky sod I thought 'till I read the article....

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8414279/kite-surfer-blown-out-of-the-water

Saffer
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5 Feb 2012 7:01pm
Yeah, bay winds were gusting up to 50 knots. It must have been around 2pm when the 50 knot gust hit. The poor guy wouldn't have seen it coming as the winds at South Channel looked pretty consistent prior to that but Fawkner and the rest of the beacons were spiking badly.



Does anyone know who it was?
suniboy21
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5 Feb 2012 7:03pm
Gusting over 54knots... Only crazy people go out in that kinda stuff! Wonder if he was riding a 12?
Mr float
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5 Feb 2012 7:17pm
I was expecting this post to get pulled after reading that heading
junglist
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5 Feb 2012 7:18pm
Anybody know who it is?

RPM
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5 Feb 2012 4:20pm
www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/strong-wind-brings-down-powerlines-in-victoria/news-story/0b9647733964730da283b2f1f6bbb08f

Obviously didn't worry about the impending severe storm and destructive gale warning?

Commonsense??

Sorry he got hurt, but people should consider their limits, abilities and mother nature..
junglist
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5 Feb 2012 7:29pm
RPM said...

www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/strong-wind-brings-down-powerlines-in-victoria/news-story/0b9647733964730da283b2f1f6bbb08f

Obviously didn't worry about the impending severe storm and destructive gale warning?

Commonsense??

Sorry he got hurt, but people should consider their limits, abilities and mother nature..


Yea, too true. I took a look at it today and thought better of it, at +35 knots you never know what can happen in the gusts. There are just too many decent days to go out to risk it in sh1tty conditions.

I hope he gets better soon but its kind of Darwin going out on days like this.



NickT
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5 Feb 2012 5:26pm
I regularly kite in winter and have been out in well over 40, I usually watch at least a couple of hours before hand and check the warnings on the Bom before I ride.

Thing is weather prediction isn't an exact science and sh!t happens hell I almost kited in the Perth storm a couple years ago when winds got to 65 kts ( glad I didn't after reading the warnings) you never know what's going to come through, just make sure you always have a contingency plan, and look at what weathers coming your way.

Hope he makes a quick recovery.
lostinlondon
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5 Feb 2012 8:36pm
Melbourne summer cool changes are pretty predictable in their behaviour - and the forecast was pretty spot on. The temperature and humidity, along with the northerly was steadily building all day. The bigger the northerly builds, the bigger the switch to the south will be.

It's just not worth venturing out in, and the best time to get out there is after the change once the front has gone through...

Two fractured ankles - that will be an annoying recovery!
Scotty99
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5 Feb 2012 9:02pm
Rose-leaf eh, dicing with disaster............

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rose%20leaf

I'll apologise in advance.
puppetonastring
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5 Feb 2012 6:13pm
Yep - recovery is going to be a major hassle with both ankles shot.
Very easy to talk with hindsight but turning from Nth to Nth West so quickly and already 30kts plus ???
Would like to think there would have been some warning signs amongst all of that happening. But reading the arrows it does look like it was amazingly steady winds for the whole of the day (ie gusts registering barely higher than the green average).

For noobs out there reading this post. When conditions hit the 30 kt mark your margin for error is amazingly thin. A 25% increase in wind speed in a gust is far more likely and it takes you into a whole kite size or 2 difference. The same 25% + gust with winds under 20 kts is usually just a bit of a thrill ride.
Be super wary of anything that isnt a seabreeze once its over 20/25 kts. Thats always when the real sh1t hits the fan.
And always remember the first commandment of kiting - "keep flying your kite" !!!
Its your only chance for a controlled landing. No guarantee but always the best (perhasps only) chance you have.
csjena
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5 Feb 2012 9:58pm
I was in Rosebud from 7.30 to about 12.00 but pulled out at 10.30 because after 3 hrs riding in a nice wind. I was getting tired and my 12 was far to overpowering. At about 12 the guys were flying on 8 or 7 but I thing the wind was not to strong. Quite gusty some time.
The wind was almost full onshore an the guys were pulling big airs and tricks a bit to close to shore...to my taste....anyway they seem to be pretty advanced.
Well I think he was just unlucky to be picked up by that gust.
It sucks but it could be far worst as there is a concrete wall infront of the car park

..Get well soon.....anybody knows who it was?

CS
Smithy
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5 Feb 2012 10:05pm
Dont be fooled by the arrows, it was knarly with gusts +\- 10 knots constantly coming through. I ditched the kite today for the relative safety of a sailboard. Even with a 4m sail I was getting blown off the water.

Hope he is ok, any names yet? Brings back memories of Lauries accident here at Aspendale about 5 years or so back, hospital for 6 months, only walking 10m after 12 months, only returned to work full time about 18 months back....
austin
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5 Feb 2012 7:07pm
id love to be out in those kinda winds again, roll on the fronts
csjena
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5 Feb 2012 10:14pm
There have been a couple of guys with bindings.
That is worst it think to land on the beach!

cs
selwyn
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5 Feb 2012 10:32pm
That westerly came out of nowhere- I wasn't kiting today so I was on my iPhone every 15 mins checking wind. It was about 25-30kts Nrthly at Rosebud beach when suddenly Point Wilson was showing 42 kts West. 15-20mins later, with no visual cues in sky or water the Westerly hit like a ****a.

On these days it's very important for experienced kiters to speak up, and TELL novice "know it alls" or novice "eager beavers" to put kite down. If they don't smack themselves they could smack you.

Ive seen a lady hit by a 12m kite in 10kts of wind, when wind dropped right off kite dropped out of sky, hit her in side of head- she was out unconscious and off to the Alfred. That was in 10kts of wind

Don't let novices kite close to beach around families, spectators - especially small children. If you're experienced- speak up, take action before it's too late.



Many were lucky it went W and not SW - if you're out in water much deeper than your waist you'll be dragged into deeper water until you can't touch bottom then ....out you go..off shore. Better hope you can release and swim
manicskier
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5 Feb 2012 10:51pm
selwyn said...

That westerly came out of nowhere


Not really, it was forecast for a change to come through. And i could see a nasty line of black cloud coming through
McSalty
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5 Feb 2012 10:53pm
lostinlondon said...

Melbourne summer cool changes are pretty predictable in their behaviour - and the forecast was pretty spot on. The temperature and humidity, along with the northerly was steadily building all day. The bigger the northerly builds, the bigger the switch to the south will be.

It's just not worth venturing out in, and the best time to get out there is after the change once the front has gone through...

Two fractured ankles - that will be an annoying recovery!


Spot on.
Smithy
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5 Feb 2012 10:56pm
^^^ +1

We all knew it was coming, further up the bay you could see the big black clouds rolling in.

Those of us who have come from some form of sailing background tend to read the clouds and water much better than those who havent. Any name yet? Have a lot of mates that kite down that way in the northerlies...
Mr float
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5 Feb 2012 11:19pm
NickT said...

I regularly kite in winter and have been out in well over 40, I usually watch at least a couple of hours before hand and check the warnings on the Bom before I ride.

Thing is weather prediction isn't an exact science and sh!t happens hell I almost kited in the Perth storm a couple years ago when winds got to 65 kts ( glad I didn't after reading the warnings) you never know what's going to come through, just make sure you always have a contingency plan, and look at what weathers coming your way.

Hope he makes a quick recovery.


you're da man
Pat1
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5 Feb 2012 11:55pm
i was kiting down there when the front came through, you could see it coming. Majority of people put their kites down before / as it was starting to hit. Kiting in those conditions was super fun / hectic, big jumps and just popping off all the waves was a ton of fun!
Peterc150
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6 Feb 2012 12:03am
The northerly had some very big gusts up to 45 knots. The westerly was forecast and came in strong on time. The wind charts looked fairly steady but the BOM radar showed massive rain fronts so we decided not to go out.

Hope he recovers quickly.
selwyn
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6 Feb 2012 12:29am
manicskier said...

selwyn said...

That westerly came out of nowhere


Not really, it was forecast for a change to come through. And i could see a nasty line of black cloud coming through



I also read the forecast and was waiting for the change. The question is WHEN will the change hit? -what are the signs to show the wind is swinging west. That Black cloud you mentioned was there for hrs and it wasn't changing much- both before and after the West hit.

What I recall is the wind picking up from the Nrth....then BANG the Westerly hit. I didn't see any cloud ahead of the Westerly, I did see a darker rain patch out to the west but it had been there for hrs.

Normally I'd see a wind shadow, or clouds building in south west and heading north but today....people were putting their kites down because the N was getting too strong...then the West hit. There was no connection between N and the W. And there was no sign, other than Point Wilson was West when everywhere else was North
Peterc150
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6 Feb 2012 12:35am
There was a wind forecast that put the westerly change at around 3pm, it came at 2pm, as you can see from this South Channel wind plot. The gust recorded there was around 55 knots.


huddy
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5 Feb 2012 11:44pm
Two fractured ankles Bugger that I got one fractured ankle at the moment and that sucks enough. one week till I get my cast off!
gazza
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5 Feb 2012 11:36pm
Kiter blown on beach by a man wearing shorts over his wetsuit.
Plummet
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6 Feb 2012 4:59am
Storm kiting is excillerating and hardcore. I look foward to the days gusting past 40 knots. you certainly know your alive in those conditions. with the right equipment it can be done in relative safety. But you do role the dice sometimes....
SpaceCoyote
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6 Feb 2012 8:47am
I'm surprised that there weren't more accidents that day. I kited from around 9am till 10.30am on 9m bit further up. I got off the water after it first spiked to over 30. After my session I went to watch the other guys. Most were on 9s and 10s at that time yet a few noobs learning in the shallows were on 12m kites. Fully depowered and sheeted out and still getting lofted.

Anyway, awesome day on the right size kite.
axis
axis
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6 Feb 2012 8:58am
Bad news and hope the recovery is OK.

I went to Brighton about 12:30 and put up the 7m. By the time I rigged my lines it had picked up more and guys started coming in as it was too windy.

I waited it out but ended up packing up and going home. The first time in many years I have set up and not gone out. The amount of sand being blown down the beach was insane.

It was over 35knots gusting to over 45knots at the beacon between 1 and 2pm.

Peterc150
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6 Feb 2012 12:08pm
This was mentioned on the ABC radio news in Melbourne with Rosebud as the location of the accident. The news report cited possible spinal damage too.

After 6 years of questions from friends, family and acquaintances such as "is kitesurfing really safe" to which I answer "yes, if you get instruction, use the right gear and make the right decisions", it looks like I will get another round of these questions.
Saffer
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6 Feb 2012 2:28pm
I think its easy to be judgemental, but we all take risks with the sport, whether its flying a little outside of a kites range or jumping when you know there are sandbanks nearby.

Its also worth noting that those who push the sport are generally those who take a little more extreme risks, after all, we've all seen Len10 out looping his kite in ridiculous conditions and said "wow, thats insane!"

I'm not saying its okay to go out and kite in these conditions, but before we pass judgement to remember that we've all taken these kinds of risks at some point or another. This could quite easily have just been another day where the guys went out and kited in 35-40 without incident.

Perhaps its just a reminder that mother nature is not that forgiving sometimes.
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