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Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
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6 Feb 2012 3:02pm
Kiter's tend to grossly overestimate wind strength- a true 40 knots is completely farked- need to pay attention to those clouds.
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
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6 Feb 2012 3:43pm
Saffer said...

I think its easy to be judgemental, but we all take risks with the sport, whether its flying a little outside of a kites range or jumping when you know there are sandbanks nearby.

Its also worth noting that those who push the sport are generally those who take a little more extreme risks, after all, we've all seen Len10 out looping his kite in ridiculous conditions and said "wow, thats insane!"

I'm not saying its okay to go out and kite in these conditions, but before we pass judgement to remember that we've all taken these kinds of risks at some point or another. This could quite easily have just been another day where the guys went out and kited in 35-40 without incident.

Perhaps its just a reminder that mother nature is not that forgiving sometimes.


well said Saffer !
kiting kid
kiting kid
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6 Feb 2012 4:23pm
Having kited early in the day, i only saw clouds appear around 1ish but even from a distance you could see how wind blown they were. Generally in Melbourne, winds can change a huge amount between each site and the beach. it can be blowing 55knts at South channel but infact it would have hit differently because in theory, a true northly wind comes off the hills (and will lift if not strong enough), so the person could have experienced anywhere between 30-50knt in the space of less than a minute.

another note i might add is that westerly fronts in Rosebud are quite hard to pick except for a sudden wind drop, and a change in humidity

did manage a kite at 830 after the rain cleared.

Smithy
Smithy
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6 Feb 2012 8:41pm
Any updates? Anyone know how he is? Anyone know who he is??
gazman2
gazman2
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7 Feb 2012 1:08am
Got to tell you all that kitesurfing Rosebud on a northerly has got to be handled with alittle caution.Have lived here all my life and seen this type of weather happen plenty of times.We all new the front was coming in,its the fact that you dont want to have your kite up when it does.Unfortunately on this day the northerly didnt die of before the south westerly came in.Just bad luck.Hope the lad is on the mend..cheers all
juggler
juggler
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7 Feb 2012 7:18pm
Geez just read the title "kitesurfer blown on beach" and thought that lucky bugger!
hamburglar
hamburglar
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7 Feb 2012 8:34pm
Mr float said...

I was expecting this post to get pulled after reading that heading


i was planning to head down the beach without a kite
Jared888
Jared888
WA
389 posts
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8 Feb 2012 6:01am
bring it on 40+

I had my local spot to myself last tuesday week i think all euro invaders sitting in car park to light to hold there kite down

me 100kgs on a fully depowered 8 evo had a fat time yewwww!!!! gust can be funn
hamburglar
hamburglar
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8 Feb 2012 11:10am
thats a lot of kg's to go splat
Peterc150
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17 Feb 2012 10:52am
Here is an update on the kitesurfer injured at Rosebud

Rosebud hurt flyer defiant - Mornington Peninsula Leader : http://mornington-peninsula-leader.whereilive.com.au/news/story/rosebud-hurt-flyer-defiant/

Intensive care paramedic Andrew Burns attended the scene before Mr Mueller was taken to Frankston Hospital.

"It appears a gust of wind picked the kitesurfer up out of the water and blew him about 20 metres on to the beach," Mr Burns said.

"He landed heavily feet first and it took a large amount of pain relief to make the man comfortable before we could put splints on his legs."

Mr Mueller said he was just unlucky on the day.

"After entering the sea I was pulled into the air, lost my board, fell into the water, was pulled into the air again and was dragged very close to the shore and landed heels first on the sand," he said.

"I realised immediately that I couldn't move my feet and they were terribly painful."


Unlucky yes. But the forecast was for a strong frontal wind change, so this was avoidable. Picking the exact timing of the change is not so easy, but some forecasts were very close.

It seems he go lofted at least twice and may not have deployed his safety release(?).

He is recovering from two broken ankles and is still keen to kite.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
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20 Feb 2012 11:50am
I landed on the beach yesterday. well to be fair i jumped on purpose to avoid a bad rag dolling. I was kiting on my 15m flysurfer in 20-22 knots so well powered, i was on a borrowed board that didn't hold much power. well I found out the board couldn't hold much power as i was trying to choke speed heading back to the beach, but alas what i could do on my board i couldn't on this board so i just speed at full pace towards the beach. Realising a high speed rag dolling along the beach i sent the kite for a jump. jumped a decent hieght and glided for 30-40 meters and crash landed on the beach. All be it at a greatly reduced speed and no injury.

Since I regularily jump on land when i'm landboarding, jumping over a hard surface is normal to me. So I simply apply the techniques i have learned over the years to land slowly and softly.


It got me wondering about kitesurfers who don't land kite. Which i guess is 99% of you.

Purhaps this guy who broke his ankles freaked out and didn't control the kite for a soft landing? Usually when its blowing 40 knots you have ample power in the kite for a soft landing.

Maybe its an idea to practice jumping on the beach in controled conditions so when/if it happens in a lofting instance you are prepaired and less likeley to freaze up of do the wrong thing with the kite?

Perhaps a crash landing technique should be practiced? i have adopted a parrachuting crumple style of crash technique for hard landings on the land.
Saffer
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20 Feb 2012 3:58pm
Plummet said...

I landed on the beach yesterday. well to be fair i jumped on purpose to avoid a bad rag dolling. I was kiting on my 15m flysurfer in 20-22 knots so well powered, i was on a borrowed board that didn't hold much power. well I found out the board couldn't hold much power as i was trying to choke speed heading back to the beach, but alas what i could do on my board i couldn't on this board so i just speed at full pace towards the beach. Realising a high speed rag dolling along the beach i sent the kite for a jump. jumped a decent hieght and glided for 30-40 meters and crash landed on the beach. All be it at a greatly reduced speed and no injury.

Since I regularily jump on land when i'm landboarding, jumping over a hard surface is normal to me. So I simply apply the techniques i have learned over the years to land slowly and softly.


It got me wondering about kitesurfers who don't land kite. Which i guess is 99% of you.

Purhaps this guy who broke his ankles freaked out and didn't control the kite for a soft landing? Usually when its blowing 40 knots you have ample power in the kite for a soft landing.

Maybe its an idea to practice jumping on the beach in controled conditions so when/if it happens in a lofting instance you are prepaired and less likeley to freaze up of do the wrong thing with the kite?

Perhaps a crash landing technique should be practiced? i have adopted a parrachuting crumple style of crash technique for hard landings on the land.



Its probably difficult for most people to practice but its a valid point. I guess the question is how to practice it safely.
TurtleHunter
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WA
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20 Feb 2012 1:05pm
^^^ in the water
Mr float
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20 Feb 2012 4:15pm
Plummet said...

I landed on the beach yesterday. well to be fair i jumped on purpose to avoid a bad rag dolling. I was kiting on my 15m flysurfer in 20-22 knots so well powered, i was on a borrowed board that didn't hold much power. well I found out the board couldn't hold much power as i was trying to choke speed heading back to the beach, but alas what i could do on my board i couldn't on this board so i just speed at full pace towards the beach. Realising a high speed rag dolling along the beach i sent the kite for a jump. jumped a decent hieght and glided for 30-40 meters and crash landed on the beach. All be it at a greatly reduced speed and no injury.

Since I regularily jump on land when i'm landboarding, jumping over a hard surface is normal to me. So I simply apply the techniques i have learned over the years to land slowly and softly.


It got me wondering about kitesurfers who don't land kite. Which i guess is 99% of you.

Purhaps this guy who broke his ankles freaked out and didn't control the kite for a soft landing? Usually when its blowing 40 knots you have ample power in the kite for a soft landing.

Maybe its an idea to practice jumping on the beach in controled conditions so when/if it happens in a lofting instance you are prepaired and less likeley to freaze up of do the wrong thing with the kite?

Perhaps a crash landing technique should be practiced? i have adopted a parrachuting crumple style of crash technique for hard landings on the land.



A few days ago i had a hard crash onto the beach (ouch) I was riding a shorie and was going pretty quickly .the water sucked out and wham . I had nowhere to go as there was a guy riding upwind toward me .It happened in a nano second and i'm not sure if land kiting and buggying and years of kiting saved my sorry arse.
My advice well '**** happens " and sometimes experience or so called safety systems or whatever won't be of much help when its all over in the blink of an eye lid .maybe in a floating situation where you have a bit more time to prepare you might have some control over your destiny like good ol eric eck

Davereid
Davereid
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20 Feb 2012 1:26pm
why in the first signs of some serious danger do you not pull your safety?

i appreciate that it happens all very quick, but u got to be aware right?
sausage
sausage
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20 Feb 2012 3:42pm
Smithy said...

Any updates? Anyone know how he is? Anyone know who he is??


He does but just can't get to his computer at the moment
keke
keke
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20 Feb 2012 2:26pm
Spacemonkey! said...

Kiter's tend to grossly overestimate wind strength- a true 40 knots is completely farked- need to pay attention to those clouds.


So true. btw my new 5meter starts at 8knots.
Technologic
Technologic
WA
17 posts
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20 Feb 2012 8:41pm
Davereid said...

why in the first signs of some serious danger do you not pull your safety?

i appreciate that it happens all very quick, but u got to be aware right?


If you were 15m in the air, would you pull yours?
skinduptruk
skinduptruk
NSW
165 posts
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21 Feb 2012 12:28am
Plummet said...

Storm kiting is excillerating and hardcore. I look foward to the days gusting past 40 knots. you certainly know your alive in those conditions. with the right equipment it can be done in relative safety. But you do role the dice sometimes....


i've taken the role of dice and been rolled quite a few times myself
Davereid
Davereid
98 posts
98 posts
21 Feb 2012 2:56am
Technologic said...

Davereid said...

why in the first signs of some serious danger do you not pull your safety?

i appreciate that it happens all very quick, but u got to be aware right?


If you were 15m in the air, would you pull yours?



i would have pulled it before i got 15mtrs.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
21 Feb 2012 4:41am
Davereid said...

Technologic said...

Davereid said...

why in the first signs of some serious danger do you not pull your safety?

i appreciate that it happens all very quick, but u got to be aware right?


If you were 15m in the air, would you pull yours?



i would have pulled it before i got 15mtrs.


hehe... spoken like a true novice.

Plummet
Plummet
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21 Feb 2012 4:42am
skinduptruk said...

Plummet said...

Storm kiting is excillerating and hardcore. I look foward to the days gusting past 40 knots. you certainly know your alive in those conditions. with the right equipment it can be done in relative safety. But you do role the dice sometimes....


i've taken the role of dice and been rolled quite a few times myself



same. lets face it. without risk it would be boring.
Peterc150
Peterc150
VIC
710 posts
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21 Feb 2012 9:33am
I have kited in 40+ knots with my 7 with no major dramas . However if I was on my 10 or 12 and this came through I would either have to lose the kite or end up somewhere I didn't want to be.
Jared888
Jared888
WA
389 posts
WA, 389 posts
3 Mar 2012 2:27am
hamburglar said...

thats a lot of kg's to go splat


Hahaha, I really love this sport so many people like you

But i aplaude you guys for staying in the car park when the adventurouse are pushing the limits youll only get in the way.
Rob S
Rob S
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3 Mar 2012 10:02am
Peterc150 said...

I have kited in 40+ knots with my 7 with no major dramas .


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