kiting restrictions for moruya airport????

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pfr
pfr
NSW
156 posts
pfr pfr
NSW, 156 posts
8 Mar 2008 8:42am
I'm heading down to moruya monday.It looks like the wind will be NE all week.Does anyone know if there are any restrictions for kiters in moruya entrance,due to being close to the airport.Looking from google earth it should be good on the southern side of the entrance wall.
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
8 Mar 2008 10:56am
Come around to Shelly Beach. And kite safely. And Shhhhh.
pfr
pfr
NSW
156 posts
pfr pfr
NSW, 156 posts
8 Mar 2008 12:02pm
is there a caravan park at shelly beach?what turnoff do you take from the highway?
Skinner
Skinner
ACT
55 posts
ACT, 55 posts
8 Mar 2008 6:13pm
Nah come up to Conjola guys! Can't beat it in a NEly!

The rivermouth is pretty good tho...

Sk
lovey
lovey
NSW
177 posts
NSW, 177 posts
9 Mar 2008 9:35am
don't kite the rivermouth sat or sun 'cause apparently the civil aviation guys are there looking for any potential hazards. Don't want to push our luck.
Skinner
Skinner
ACT
55 posts
ACT, 55 posts
9 Mar 2008 3:58pm
I wouldn't worry about CASA. At its closest point, the kite spot at the rivermouth (south side) is about 700m from the flight path - WELL outside any projected gradient for clearance. If a plane is over that part of the rivermouth at 100ft its probably got bigger problems than a kite getting in its way.

And besides, if there was a concern, I reckon they would just declare the runway to be shorter from the South end so as to avoid any potential hazard. Even at the North end of the runway, if you were directly adjacent it at the beach you've still got about 250m. It's been a while since I've had to do those sort of calculations, but I'll bet a kite on 30m lines would still be under the projected clearance gradient to the side of the runway (I think it might be 6 degrees, but my memory is not so good these days).

The East/West runway is a little different if you were directly in line with the runway, despite the fact I don't think it is used very often (although I've never flown in there myself). The margin would be much less but I reckon you'd still be under the gradient. That said tho, common sense would tell you not to kite directly in line with it.

Its very easy to calculate the area where a 30m high object will infringe on the clearance for the airfield. If CASA was concerned they could just have bouys in the water marking a kind of exclusion zone. And they could put a note in ERSA (the airfield directory) or the charts with a warning symbol.

Sk
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
9 Mar 2008 4:26pm
The point is, as Lovey put it "we don't want to push our luck". There has already been a discussion of rules with the ranger when a couple of 's kited into the river at the end of the runway.....
I suggest, if you want to kite there, kite safely, always use a kite leash, it is rocky, a helmet is a good idea, the currents from the river can make things difficult if you lose your board...

Skinner said...

Nah come up to Conjola guys! Can't beat it in a NEly!


Good advice.

Oh, and don't upset the locals by starting a thread about their local spot and a non existant ban on the national kiting forum.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
9 Mar 2008 2:44pm
Hi guys,

Not sure about the more regional airports and strips, but there is a 3km exclusion zone around most major airports and the zone starts at the airport boundary, not the runway.

Sydney airport is a classic. If the FAC exercised their rights to enforce that law, almost all of Botany Bay would be off limits to kiters. The point of the matter is, a cautious approach to this kind of thing is the best bet and respect the locals requests as they are the ones who kite there all the time. If you stuff it up for the locals, you can pretty much not come back.

Be considerate when you kite!

Good winds,

Skinner
Skinner
ACT
55 posts
ACT, 55 posts
15 Mar 2008 3:47pm
Hey guys, hope I wasn't misunderstood - I definitely wasn't trying to say "go hard and damn the consequences", the last thing I would want is restrictions being placed on any kite spot, and particularly Moruya.

I drew up a diagram with the clearance zones overlayed on a photo of the Moruya site, but then realised that they apply only to unlicenced airstrips - Darren is quite right, different rules apply to licences aerodromes and they can make (quite arbitrary) exclusion zones, although I couldnt find any information relating specifically to Moruya when I had a quick look.

The diagram basically showed, though, that unless you were at the Northern shore of the river (directly in line with the runway threshold) a kite is unlikely to infringe on the flightpath. Unless youre Eric Eck, that is.

You guys missed a great session at Green Island on the long weekend - have posted some pics from my kite-cam, you can find them under my profile.

Sk
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