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wham70
wham70
NSW
44 posts
NSW, 44 posts
8 May 2011 10:27am
Hi guys I've been flying my kite for a while ,now I need a board. Looking for a larger twin tip i've seen longer but narrower , shorter and wider which would suit a learner better.
NSW, 1613 posts
8 May 2011 12:35pm
Need to be more specific than that mate,

Weight:
Height:
Style interested in:
local Conditions:
Surf or flat water:
ok
ok
NSW
1089 posts
ok ok
NSW, 1089 posts
8 May 2011 1:08pm
BOOOOOOOGIE-BOARD!
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
8 May 2011 11:43am
My girlfriend likes both length and width...

Seriously go speak to someone who knows what they are talking about. Length, width,rocker continuous or 3 step,flex and where the board flexes, the list goes on.
It wont make much difference when your learning. As for length and width goes I wish board manufactuers would put Surface Area on their boards, like volume for windsurfers. The kite is the engine, the board is just the tyres.
wham70
wham70
NSW
44 posts
NSW, 44 posts
8 May 2011 3:23pm
Hi sorry more specifics are

Weight:80kg
Height:6ft
more likely flat water:
Style interested in:be happy to be up and cruising
hope this helps
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
8 May 2011 1:25pm
ok said...

BOOOOOOOGIE-BOARD!


This guy is trying to get some serious information, take your trolling to another thread.
radman4
radman4
678 posts
678 posts
8 May 2011 1:44pm
Go with shorter and wider,wide in the tips will get you up on the plane quicker and you can drive upwind harder from a wider fin position,i would go for something around the 133 x 41 wide as a good all rounder.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
8 May 2011 3:47pm
I reckon you'll do well to look for a first board that can later double as a light wind board. Any larger underground flx, cab prodigy, nobile 555 or similar reputable freeride board from 2008 or later will fit the bill.

Dimension wise, width should be 42-44, length more variable, 136-148 as a guide. Anything within this range will be fine for you.

In NSW a larger board will get a lot of use beyond your beginner phase. Later you'll add something about 132-135x40cm.
NSW, 1613 posts
8 May 2011 4:01pm
djdojo said...

I reckon you'll do well to look for a first board that can later double as a light wind board. Any larger underground flx, cab prodigy, nobile 555 or similar reputable freeride board from 2008 or later will fit the bill.

Dimension wise, width should be 42-44, length more variable, 136-148 as a guide. Anything within this range will be fine for you.

In NSW a larger board will get a lot of use beyond your beginner phase. Later you'll add something about 132-135x40cm.


Definately agree with djdojo here. whilst a 133 might be your ideal board down the track you will get alot more use out of a Larger board. It will greatly improve your progression as well as your time on the water. Being able to be used as a light wind board down the track is also a big +. I would recommend a Cabrinha Rival 145, North Gonzalez 143, Naish Momentum 138, FlX 38 i think?, Slingshot SX 47?. I would be wary of the 555 like djdojo said, the choppy conditions in Sydney will result in a hard ride and some face splash.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
8 May 2011 2:30pm
Excellent advice again from 'djdojo' yet again.
If you can afford a 2 board quiver then a light wind board now will give you lots of entry level advantages for quite a while. By which time you will have a much better idea of what will suit you as a second board.
Lots of good boards to choose from - one light winder we sell that performs really well (beware some dont) is the Shinn King George - 140x46 or, the best option for lightwind and for learning too, 144x49.
Not sure where you will find them in NSW?
If you would like me to find out give me a call.
wham70
wham70
NSW
44 posts
NSW, 44 posts
8 May 2011 4:58pm
Thanks for all your knowledge and wisdom, I might be on the right path now.Cheers
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
8 May 2011 5:31pm
puppetonastring said...

Excellent advice again from 'djdojo' yet again.


+1

The board you learn on will be quite different to the one you ride full time once you get better. Now a longer and/or wider board will be helpful, and if you can hang on to it when you buy a new board you get a "free" light wind board.
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
NSW, 1114 posts
8 May 2011 6:43pm
I have always found that stamina is more important than length or width.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
8 May 2011 4:56pm
stabber said...

I have always found that stamina is more important than length or width.


Bull. don't you remember this one? "Long and thin - to far in, Short and thick - does the trick".
allano
allano
WA
188 posts
WA, 188 posts
8 May 2011 5:18pm
puppetonastring said...


If you can afford a 2 board quiver then a light wind board now will give you lots of entry level advantages for quite a while.
Lots of good boards to choose from - one light winder we sell that performs really well (beware some dont) is the Shinn King George - 140x46


I love this board . Went out on 13m Sat morning (most people on 12-13m). The only 2 people that could stay up wind was me (on the King george) and a guy on a Core 17m!
Then, when the wind picked up he came in and put up his 12m and I keep going on my original set up. For a bigish board it can really handle some wind and it is easy to throw around, comfy and no spray in your face (a problem with a lot of light wind boards).
Fooosh
Fooosh
WA
563 posts
WA, 563 posts
14 May 2011 12:20am
It's not about length or width, it's all about fit.
SlicerDicer
SlicerDicer
179 posts
179 posts
14 May 2011 5:34am
Fooosh said...

It's not about length or width, it's all about fit.


I am going to ride a rubbish bin just to prove you wrong!!!
woodys
woodys
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
14 May 2011 11:58am
dave...... said...

My girlfriend likes both length and width...



Hmmm ... that would explain why she plays around so much .....

Seriously though: There is a rule of thumb touted by many of the board makers that 1cm increase in width is equavlent to 5cm increase in length.
A pretty broad generalisation Im guessing but it explains the trend to shorter wider boards lately - esp in the freeride category.
IMO manufacturers should include surface area along with length and width.

At around 75kgs - and with lots of boards to play around with - I am finding current model boards around 132x42 (give or take a bit) are way better than my earlier preference for boards which was always around the 137/138x39/40 mark. If these are roughly equivalent surface areas (the area I find suits me) then its way better to be riding the shorter fatter board.

I guess that makes King Rowdy right again (but hey when is he ever wrong )
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
14 May 2011 12:47pm
woodys said...

I guess that makes King Rowdy right again (but hey when is he ever wrong )


Touche'
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