making fins - what to use for mould?

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salty
salty
QLD
51 posts
QLD, 51 posts
13 Aug 2006 8:56pm
Made some using epoxy and some fibre glass with plasticine as the mould. They came out ok, bit patchy where the plasticine got mixed in with the resin though. (kind of matches the dodgy finish on the plywood board I made!)

Wondering if anyone has better idea for the mould?

Cheers, Warren
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
13 Aug 2006 6:58pm
casting rubber? silicone. google
windpig
windpig
QLD
113 posts
QLD, 113 posts
13 Aug 2006 9:00pm
plaster of paris?
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
13 Aug 2006 9:02pm
Try these guys
www.barnes.com.au/

I agree, a silicon mould would be good, or make them out of polycarbonate sheet (lexan)?
Alan
Alan
NSW
125 posts
NSW, 125 posts
14 Aug 2006 1:10pm
Hi Salty,
I've made quite a few using modelling clay which is a bit harder than plasticine. I push the original fin into the clay to make the mould with a covering film of vaseline making it easier to get the fin out. Then reapply a film of vaseline again to the fin to line the mould more (use sparigly to aviod spiking). Once set, extract and use a belt sander to level the base. Hardest part is drilling the screw threads stright. Very fast to make but not as strong.
BoDiddly
BoDiddly
VIC
622 posts
VIC, 622 posts
14 Aug 2006 2:37pm
Well I was thinking the same thing.. what to use for some fin's. So as I was making my Toasted cheese sanga, I contemplated my chopping board, it was a firm plastic, 'bout 10mm thick! so off I went, got out the jig-saw and cut self 4 neat looking fin's, pretty much the same profile as the Nobile 45mm fin's.... Drilled 2 holes for the screws by putting the fins in a Vice with a template overlay so I got the spacing right every time - hey presto! I got some fin's!
Matches my 12mm ply board finish that is -rough-as-guts- but hey.. didn't cost me a cent!

Later.
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
14 Aug 2006 11:13pm
made a few with a silicone mould, there are profesional 2 component silicone mixes available, at a cost though. So I used silasic, works ok but you got to apply thin layers to the original, which I coated with a thin film of wax (rubbed a candle on) put some fiberglas into the mould and filled with epoxy resin. push a stainless screw into the soft mix, this will come out ok when the resin sets, wrap a wetted out glas fibre around the screw for extra strength if you want, grind off the top, one home made fin work well,

Ray
salty
salty
QLD
51 posts
QLD, 51 posts
15 Aug 2006 8:38pm
Thanks for the replies. Think I'll try me a toasted cheese sanga and see what happens afterwards. If not tough enough to handle me grinding the fins into wello rocks I will go for the silastic method. Ah yes, brings me back to my days as a mechanic -what a wonderful smell silastic has. Chrs, Salty.
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
QLD, 1499 posts
15 Aug 2006 10:07pm
The silastic mould that RayQ describes works ok. I tried using "all clear" hoping that it would be easy to see any air bubbles etc when putting the glass & resin in. The "all clear" took ages to set properly. I ended up with a much better mould using the cheapest silastic that Bunnings had.
Waxing the fin to be copied is easy with a mixture of beeswax and eucalyptus oil (used as a timber finish).
Although the moulded fins come out ok, I found the best way to make fins is to cut them from a sheet of polycarbonate (as suggested by Tobes).
Polycarbonate is sometimes sold under the brand name Lexan; just cut to shape with a jigsaw, taper with a belt sander, finish with some hand sanding, drill & tap the bolt holes and you have one bulletproof (literally) fin.
eightfootplus
eightfootplus
NSW
298 posts
NSW, 298 posts
15 Aug 2006 10:13pm
google for cabarita air force, the guy there Eric has a excellent site on board building and a specific article on how to mould fins.

I have moulded surfboard fins FCS type, by directly glassing onto an old fin using a release agent. The release agent works well, but does stain the old fins.

You can probably use latex rubber as well as a mould, it wont last as long a silicon.
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