pigtails, what knot?

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the duke of dork
the duke of dork
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
9 Aug 2005 8:55pm
just wondering what difference if any,does it make to the kite and the way it flys? what knot is most commonly used and why? cheers in advance btw i have 3 knots and have been using the middle one...
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
9 Aug 2005 9:13pm
If you go to one of the kite manufacturers web sites and download a manual for a kite (yours would be best) you'll get a better description, but..

the knots are used to change the trim of the kite to meet the changes in conditions (ie. more power, by shorter rear lines, when the wind is low, and longer/less power when wind is high), and/or to compensate for stretch in flying lines.

as for the type of knot... a "figure 8" knot, because it provides a solid lump and does not weaken the line/rope as much as most other knots do.

how you got to ask this question (coz you did have lessons from a reputable instructor, din ya?) is a worry... this is basic setup and rigging theory. you should learn this before your first flight... but that is just my opinion... but, more importantly, you did ask!

kite safe; it's more fun!
anton
anton
202 posts
202 posts
10 Aug 2005 7:40am
Figure-8's also because they are easy to undo
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
10 Aug 2005 9:03am
Hey Duke,

The pigtails are really a bit of a left over from the days of 2-lines. They used to be there to change the set pitch or angle of attack of a kite before you launch. However, in this day and age, most standard bar setups have approximately 10-12 inches of travel on the centre line or chicken loop line and a further 6-8 inches of travel from the trim strap.

This is of course way more than you will ever need as most kites go from full power to slack back lines with around 12-14 inches of depower. Having used that theory the trim strap is then superfluous or the additional length of depower rope is superfluous. I mean what good is having so much depower that you cannot steer the kite when the bar is depowered?

You can however take advantage of this massive depower range to modify your bar setup to make your posture more advantageous ie remove the amount of depower so you don't have to lean forward to reach the bar when depowered, (this removes the poo-hanger stance)then utilise the full travel of trim strap adjustment.

You need to start off with the 4 flying lines on your bar at equal length when the bar is three inches from the chicken loop stop, this gives you around three inches of oversheeting which can be advantageous in jumps etc. The knots on the pigtails can be used as a quick adjustment at the beach if for some reason the bar is not even when you first launch without having to go to the trouble of rerigging and adjusting all your lines.

I teach much of this stuff and more in the intermediates riding clinics. Hope it was of some use.

Good winds
the duke of dork
the duke of dork
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
10 Aug 2005 12:53pm
thankyou for the info! best regards. as for the knot ,i was referring to the ones on the pigtails! cheers
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