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Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
17 Jun 2010 3:04pm
Just got this in the email

"Thank you for taking time to provide your views on daylight saving in Queensland. This is an important issue affecting all parts of our State, and I am grateful to Queenslanders for providing such a strong response to this debate.



Mr Peter Wellington, an Independent Member of Parliament, introduced a Bill to the Queensland Parliament which proposed a referendum on the issue of daylight saving for South East Queensland (SEQ) only.



As all Members of Parliament would have to vote on the proposal, our Government resolved to ask Queenslanders what they thought of Mr Wellington’s idea.



As a result, I asked Members of Parliament to consult with their communities and provide feedback on whether or not Queenslanders supported holding a referendum or trialling this proposal. In addition I set up a website to obtain people’s views.



The results of the online survey showed that the majority of those who responded supported a trial and a referendum on split time zone daylight saving. From the total responses received, there were 63% who supported a referendum, and 64% who supported a trial.



However, the online survey results also clearly showed that Queenslanders living in regional areas were opposed to any proposal to split the State into two time zones. The responses showed that almost 65% of respondents from outside SEQ were not supportive of a referendum, and 76% were not supportive of a trial.



You can view details on all of the feedback to the online survey at www.getinvolved.qld.gov.au/daylightsaving



The feedback Members of Parliament received from their electorates also confirmed that the idea of a split state is unacceptable for regional Queenslanders, with more than 85% opposed to a referendum and 93% opposed to a trial.



While I can see the benefits daylight saving would have for people living in the South East corner, my Government is committed to governing for all parts of the State. I do not believe it would be appropriate to disregard the views of regional Queenslanders.



Regardless of what side of the argument you support, what is clear is the community are extremely passionate about this issue. Given your interest in daylight saving, I thought I’d let you know that the Government will not be supporting the proposal for a referendum.



If you supported the idea of a trial or referendum, I know you will be disappointed by this decision. However, I trust you now have a fuller understanding of the thinking behind our decision.



Again, thank you for participating in the daylight saving debate and bringing your views to my attention.



Yours sincerely





ANNA BLIGH MP

PREMIER OF QUEENSLAND "


whatthe
whatthe
WA
186 posts
WA, 186 posts
17 Jun 2010 1:24pm
Democracy Fail.

How is it that 76% of Regional QLDers get to decide what SEQ do? Surely there are a lot more people in SEQ than Regional QLD?

And why is it so important to regional QLD that there not be a split time zone? Just because they don't want DS locally, doesn't give them the right to deny other areas. This really s**ts me, the majority of city/metro ppl want it and offer a compromise, but the Regional QLDers get to block that too.
westozwind
westozwind
WA
1419 posts
WA, 1419 posts
17 Jun 2010 1:40pm
You reckon that's bad. Here's a local pollie in WA who can't even get his basic physics straight. Stuff the cows getting confused and curtains fading more!

Dear YYYYY,
I write to you incredulous with the comments attributed to yourself in
the ZZZZZ recently.
I will admit that I am a Daylight Savings advocate, but some of your
statement beggar belief!
The statement :-

"In fact, daylight saving sunlight has been described as akin to being
bombarded by a celestial heater at the rate of approximately a kilowatt
per square metre. That is unpleasant, and it also presents a significant
skin cancer risk and dehydration".

Is wrong. There is no other way to put it.

This statement is worrying. Daylight savings does not cause
the sun to change it's energy output of 1kW per square meter. I suggest
you read the following and gain a year 9 geography/physics understanding
of insolation.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insolation

I am all for rational debate on the topic, but your scaremongering
statement, that have no rational or scientific basis are inflammatory
at best. Daylight savings does not bring about an extra hour of
sunlight. For that to happen, the earth would have to stop spinning for
an hour. Rates of skin cancer and the effects of dehydration are not
increased. This is the responsibility of those out in the elements to
ensure they slip, slop, slap and drink plenty of water.

________________________________________

XXXXX,
Thanks for your email.
I'll admit that the bit about the heater were a bit off target. I don't think that we were suggesting that the earth had stopped spinning.
Sure UUUUUUU usually gets a sea breeze. My electorate, and the reach of the local paper goes quite a lot further inland. They'd love a sea breeze at midday, but usually don't get one.
People who like an early bike ride, or to pull their amateur cray pots don't like daylight saving either. In fact your comments are the first positive comments that I've had.
The strongest comments about day light saving have come from people who have to put their small children on a school bus in the dark, and collect them off the bus at 3.30 pm standard time, when it is quite often the hottest time of the day. Inland, frequently it doesn't start to cool down until the sun sets.
Best wishes,


rusty7
rusty7
QLD
504 posts
QLD, 504 posts
17 Jun 2010 5:12pm
Thats still 4 to 1 in terms of people numbers if you apply the stats to population spread who want daylight saving ......F@#king Bligh government
has head in the sand. This a bullsht result ...total crap
Regonal QLD is already behind the times so they could just get out of bed later ......no biggy
dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
17 Jun 2010 3:44pm
the problem is that alot of QLD and WA IS regional and that is where the majoruty of marginal seats are . Both WA and QLD are very resource based states and you are not going to convince family's who have been farming for generations that a change will benefit them .


I love Daylight savings but i do agree that to get it through the WA voters they needed to end it at the end of feb . There was a poll and ppl would have voted it to stay if it ended up in feb and not march . I could accept a comprimise of a month less of daylight savings if that was the way to get it through .

people like amatuer cray fisherman can ****off as their argument doesn't stand. Use a freaking GPS and spotlight to find your pots . Thats how i do it . Dark or light doesn't bother .


Daylight savings is such a ****ed subject as it brings up some retarded comments from totally uneducated morons.
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
17 Jun 2010 6:10pm
farmers make me laugh when they complain about daylight savings.
They don't even have a job to get up early for, just pissed they can't get service in town after 5 o'clock standard time. (whingeing buggers)
rusty7
rusty7
QLD
504 posts
QLD, 504 posts
17 Jun 2010 8:56pm
the argument about upstting th cows is crap aswell. Coming from a farming background in NZ I can tell you it takes 2 days for the herds to adjust. The cows come to the gate wait 10 mins no one comes ... oh well, go back and eat some more grass. In a couple of days 1 hour later than usual they come to the gate.
This makes them a whole lot smarter than their owners who just cannot adjust to change.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
18 Jun 2010 10:33am
rusty7 said...

the argument about upstting th cows is crap aswell. Coming from a farming background in NZ I can tell you it takes 2 days for the herds to adjust. The cows come to the gate wait 10 mins no one comes ... oh well, go back and eat some more grass. In a couple of days 1 hour later than usual they come to the gate.
This makes them a whole lot smarter than their owners who just cannot adjust to change.



right that does it >i'm moving back to NZ .More progressive and a decent soccer team . Nope sorry the rest of the family can't put up with the weather .Looks like I'm stuck here in the Hunter Valley (the source of Sydney's wealth)
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