Be interesting this year in WA with the Helix and Rev looking like two big discussion points. (and the North Rebel to some extend)... Saw two long term "C" kiters on the REV recently at Scarborough... interesting...

JB gave a good intro to the HELIX at SOS last night... probably the best sales pitch I have heard in a while - except that it did not sound very "sales pitchy." - maybe that is why. Thanks John for the beer and Pizza!

Rev has a new flattering review out here: http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2341101

I think the Naish Helix would attract even more attention if they can move the clutter free 2008 bar earlier... had a look in the brochure and it is day and night apart

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Originally posted by sorse

Beer and pizza night very cool, were there vids to? Have to get something going on the east coast.

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We would be up for that Dave, beer and pizza very popular down this way, especially if it involves anything to do with kitesurfing. Quite a bit of interest in the Rev, when can we expect to see a demo down south?

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

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Originally posted by GranG

Be interesting this year in WA with the Helix and Rev looking like two big discussion points. (and the North Rebel to some extend)... Saw two long term "C" kiters on the REV recently at Scarborough... interesting...

JB gave a good intro to the HELIX at SOS last night... probably the best sales pitch I have heard in a while - except that it did not sound very "sales pitchy." - maybe that is why. Thanks John for the beer and Pizza!

Rev has a new flattering review out here: http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2341101

I think the Naish Helix would attract even more attention if they can move the clutter free 2008 bar earlier... had a look in the brochure and it is day and night apart

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GranG

You have to fly the new Rebels man, seriously, just fly one.

I also think that this Rev looks very interesting too.

Helix for sure is the big topic for 2008 and I don't have to say fly one, everyone wants to, and so they should.

JB and Adam were in SA and we checked out the new stuff, great night, what I was most impressed with was the new Naish Boards, they are super strong and performing, there are things I didn't know about and that was the type of wood Naish uses is a high grade Aspen, not balsa etc, and that Naish did not have a single warranty on the Sols last year, (or something similar)

Thanks boys

Daz

You mean the green 07 ones or the ones before that because I know quite a few people with the 07 thorns who haven't hadn't any issues. I know the 06's were a nightmare.

Thats odd though because they came out of the Nobile factory and I didn't hear too many of the Nobile ones having problems either. Maybe its time to trade it on an 08 before anyone finds out

I need to put some light on Dazza'a post. There was no warranty on 2007 SOL (the only wood core board in the 2007 range), which is why Naish have chosen to have a complete wood core range this year. Normally, anything in kiteboarding is breakable, especially under the feet of a good rider, the wood core boards from Naish are extremely durable, and can take a major beating. Riding a wood core is amazing, anyone who snowboards would be able to appreciate a live core like wood, there is a reason why only the cheapest snowboards on the market have foam cores, wood kicks ass!

I must also point out that breaking a board does not nessesarily make it a warranty! Warranty covers materials and workmanship of a board used correctly. If any company were to make an indestructable board, I would imagine it would weight a tonne.

Space monkey, The Torch 2008 is an insane kite when comparing it to other existing technology kites on the market, and would probably still be rated as a world leader in freestyle kites if it were not for the SIGMA range! It was the hardest decision we have had to make to not stock it this year (especially concidering the TORCH is my kite of preference, well it used to be;-) but the SIGMA kites are really that good. Hard to believe, but true!

Regards,

JB

SM,

All the SIGMA kites deliver far superior performance to any other traditional (not SIGMA) kite on the market (IMO), whether the HELIX, CULT, CODE or ALLIANCE is your kite is dependent on the riders specific style and needs. I would imagine that some hard core freestyle Torch riders would probably prefer the ALLIANCE, as it feels the closest in bar feel on the TORCH III & IV. however, the SLE feeling on the HELIX, CULT & CODE, is much more direct than ever, bridal kites have never felt this good. I definately prefer the HELIX over the TORCH as it has greater power, more de-power, turns faster, flies faster, relaunches easier, jumps higher, hangs longer and is more stable and it also makes every kite look old and saggy!

I suggest riding one, and you'll know!

Regards,

JB

REV it up boys REV it up. Had a run on the new Lunacy it is sick, hit my first raley to blind of the seaon very first ride and nearly landed my very first attempt at tantrum to blind.. The board pops really nice and hammers up wind is loose and forgiving when not on the rail( edge) when you commit to a turn it bites and drives really nice. Feels strong, and the new pads and straps are sick, nice and soft from those hard kite loop landings and lock in super sweet.
Lenton has definetly put alot of work into thia board and it shows.
Finish is really polished and looks hot tooo!!

hey dave. have u guys seen or heard anything about the 08 slingshot wakeboards n boot??

oh an what about that sigma kite if you get your lines wraped around the front of the kite (which i often do) instead of just sliding off its just gonna catch in that groove. sounds pretty silly to me.

Sir Rowdy,

This is a weird accusation to make, the lines actually don't get caught at all, even though the kite has straight segments in the L/E it is still in an arc shape, and the lines just slide straight across the canopy like on any other kite (possibly even easier, as the canopy is taught between the struts, instead of being loose and saggy over a curved unsupported area). I would be interested to know where you got this information SR? After extensive testing, I was unable to get the kite tangled, even after allowing the kite to roll over it's self 5 times (normally any kite could be killed after this many rolls) the SIGMA kites all relaunched with ease and fly as you would expect any kite with 5 twists in the lines (still allowing de-power and steeradge, but a little sticky. but more than enough to return to the beach to untangle).

The SIGMA outline, is not some funky "M" or "W" shape in the ARC, it's soley in the outline. The S1 is still the highest point in the kites arc, It is just moved slightly back to achieve a more efficient and stable alignment of the center of effort during de-power. It is clear that people are having trouble understanding the benfeits of the SIGMA outline and the GEO-TECH, and are doing the age old FORUM PDF tests (trying to magine how something works by looking at a picture), SIGMA and GEO-TECH are not just HYPE, they really work, and work well. They do sound like a fantasy kite, one that even makes your bed in the morning (note, SIGMA kites do not make your bed in the morning), and it is hard to swollow at first, but after your first fly of the kites you will be amazed at how the kites performance matches the hype perfectly.

Charl dv,

As I have posted before, it was an extremely hard desicion to make (dropping the torch 2008). I am (was) personally a torch rider, but this year is very different. As an importer it is very hard to try and get the mix of kites right in your stock, normally 2 or 3 kites stand out (like BOXER SLE and TORCH in 2007) which can make the job easier. But when you get 4 kites such as the SIGMA series that seriously outperform 1 kite conciderably, it really is a no-brainer. I suggest you try the Alliance or Helix before settling for your frikn disapointment, I think you'll be suprised.

Regards,

JB

The new slngy wake boards are still using the frt ( flex response technology ) this is what really sets them apart, maybe sir rowdy your confusion comes from the fact campbell is now using the recoil instead of the response. Recoil is three stage rocker and slighty stiff then the response..

hahhaa yeh prob dave, i really dont take much notice, i just hear things then type it on here if im wrong someone will correct me.