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bluurdd
bluurdd
WA
8 posts
WA, 8 posts
1 May 2012 9:52pm
Yesterday i was at safety bay and i happened to pass a guy as i was making my way to the beach, he was pumping a 12meter 2011 north rebel with a bike pump. about 20 minutes late he brought it onto the beach, he then proceeded to tie fishing line to the back of his harness, to his safety on his bar. then to launch he walked out about knee deep in the water and threw his kite into the air after a bit of spinning and flipping he got it in the air. he spent the next hour attempting to get up on his board. he managed to get all the way toward the road side. he then crashed it onto the road about 5 meters away from the power lines. cars stopping and beeping he relaunched from the road missing the power lines again! he crashed a second time only this time on the grassed area he then walked over to it without disconnecting picked it up from a tip and walked it out into the water again, while this was happening his lines tangling. he attempted to relaunch before one of the locals had a talking to!

please please promise me no one will ever do this! do not let your yourself become this much of a kook!
Juddy
Juddy
WA
1103 posts
WA, 1103 posts
1 May 2012 9:56pm
Dude,

it's easy to fire off comments here, what did YOU do to advise/assist/counsel him about safe(r) kiting practices????

No point jumping on SB if you're not going to point out the errors there, then & loudly....

djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
2 May 2012 12:18am
And you let all of this happen without having a word?! Sins of omission are as dangerous and irresponsible as sins of commission. Next time, say something as soon as the kookishness becomes apparent.
dunk
dunk
WA
88 posts
WA, 88 posts
1 May 2012 10:27pm
Juddy and Djojo...

You're both highly respected members of the kitesurfing community. This is an undisputed fact.

I just looked at Ryan's profile. Not sure about you but when I was was 16/17, I would have been loathe to say anything to anyone older than me along the lines of what you're encouraging... As an adult; no problem...


puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
2 May 2012 1:02am
Agree whole-heartedly with Dunk.
It is incredibly tough for a teen to front an adult and therefore bluurdd's inaction should be viewed with a bit of understanding.
BUT - to all you younger dudes out there - I would like to point out that if you have the guts & maturity to actually take the initiative that; despite the fact that you are younger & should therefore shut-up; your sensible advice may just carry even more weight than if it came from an equal level 'adult'.
None of us like playing the cop. It always takes balls to front an offender and it often results in copping a back-lash, but, I definitely agree with Juddy & djdojo that we ALL MUST take the tough, sensible stand regardless of age differences, sex, experience etc..
If its as obvious as you describe it bluurdd then you every right to stick it to them - regardless of age - and you should. Be brave - just do it. You can always walk away (head held high) if they are too ignorant to listen.
Rob S
Rob S
VIC
391 posts
VIC, 391 posts
2 May 2012 10:11am
Just can't believe that ever happened. Ryan has sucked you in.
NSW, 4382 posts
2 May 2012 10:22am
Rob S said...

Just can't believe that ever happened. Ryan has sucked you in.


Yep sounds like a troll post - relaunched it off the road, yerrr right!
specimen
specimen
WA
221 posts
WA, 221 posts
2 May 2012 9:55pm
Hell yeah that sounds like someone rang you and said give me your bank details you won a million dollars. Almost to stupid to be true. I can feel a strong breeze blow through.
knotwindy
knotwindy
42 posts
42 posts
3 May 2012 7:04am
does sound bogus but these days you never know how kooky people can be.

as for being uncomfortable telling someone to wake up, i saw some one run up to a kook and say "wait until i get my camera before you try that. the police and ambulance guys are gonna want to know what happened" and it worked!
jamdfingr
jamdfingr
QLD
663 posts
QLD, 663 posts
3 May 2012 10:24am
Darwin Theory applies to kitesurfing too....

Ive seen enough crap on the beach to believe that people will make all sorts of bad decisions especially if they dont have any formal training....

And I would agree that it is very difficult as a new comer o tell another kiter (seemingly more experienced) that what they are doing is not "best practise"

I do however step in if it puts other people at risk or more often will ask them if I can help them instead of giving them an ear full.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
3 May 2012 10:55am
Rob S said...

Just can't believe that ever happened. Ryan has sucked you in.


Yep, reads much more like fiction the second time through! Ah well, a bit of egg on the face does wonders for the complexion now n then. S'pose I was a bit trigger happy after a couple of sessions where others, who could have perceived the imminent danger and were better positioned than myself, failed to intervene in situations where joe public was in the firing line.

Nice story bluurd. Perhaps you could develop a series of "tales from the pond" each more fantastic than the next.
JBFletch
JBFletch
QLD
1287 posts
QLD, 1287 posts
3 May 2012 11:21am
Seems to be a lot of this on the forums.

Not much about people trying to give anyone a hand tho.

I ventured to the flat water kite area (near where i live, waves were to big and was to windy) last weekend.

I didn't end up going out.
I watched as a few foreigners struggling with their gear and watch them have a few close calls with general public that where watching.

I could have easily sat and laughed and not helped at all but instead i gave some assistance and offered some basic pointers.

These guys had done lessons, but due to the purchase they had made, they're were struggling with the difference in kites from school > what they had bought.

I helped tune their kite and then they where fine.

Took me 20mins of talking and in my opinion was well worth it.

I went home feeling like id done something constructive, hopefully they appreciated it and now their gear will last longer as its not stalling in the sky and crashing into the beach.

Hopefully it also saved someones time, as they won't have to right another **** story about a beginner on the beach with fishing line and a stunt man launch style.

To be honest, i hate kiting in crowds, and normally hate kiting with people in general, BUT we all enjoy the same sport so sharing your experience and knowledge goes a long way.






wldistel
wldistel
QLD
91 posts
QLD, 91 posts
3 May 2012 5:41pm
I witness this Lerner launch a kite for a guy about 12 months ago. He let the kite go way to early and it did a 180 and then parted the crowd of kilter's on the beach. No one got hurt but needless to say I,,”cough cough” I mean he is way more careful now.
rickwindt
rickwindt
WA
245 posts
WA, 245 posts
3 May 2012 6:05pm
it totally depends on how you address someone with pointing out their mistakes... there is a big difference between:

WTF ARE YOU DOING, YOU %^&*
and,
he mate I just noticed this and that, thought I'd help you out.



On a different note it is not always the beginners that screw up and not everyone will actually listen to you then you 'tell them off'.

Last sunday at woodies I was detaching my lines from my kite on beach 2 near the dunes.

An experienced bloke on the water was doing his tricks right on the shore to show of to his mate who was watching him.

All of a sudden I hear his mate scream WATCH OUT!! I ducked and a spit second later the blokes' kite crashes about half a meter behind me, his lines hitting my shoulder. His lines lay over my kite so I grabbed his kite and lines brought it to the edge of the window and launched it for him while telling him to watch out please cause that could have ended up badly. He did not reply and didn't apologize.

The showpony went back in the water and a few minutes later did his trick near the beach again and of course, crashed his kite on the beach again and repeated doing this for at least another 2 times.

What I'm getting at:
Some guys know exactly what they are doing and even if you tell them to watch out after such an obvious 'close call' they still won't listen because they are 'experienced' and won't listen to less experienced riders. It doesn't hold me back from telling people to do the right thing but I can understand why other people prefer not to when they are either less experienced or younger.
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