I like under the bar for freestyle, saves my tomohawking kites. Lit and I like above the bar.

So I guess I'm one slingshot owner who likes them. Do prefer the LF under the bar though but hate the flagout line twist.

You just have to take a little power out of the kite... the above trick or just bear off and rise downwind a bit. Or thrust your hips forward and pull the depower then.

rub some wax into your chicken loop rope

Yeah I too have this problem with my 1979 prototype kites.

johnojjohnso said..
hi i ride rpms there a great kite and a great bar apart from the under bar depower that always sticks normally so much that i have to stop to depower .
is there away of converting it to above bar or some little trick i can use to make this easier ?
iv not spoken to a slingshot owner who likes this under bar system i cant work out why they havent changed it to above bar like all the other brands

Wash ur bar after every use in fresh water, and also you can buy a silicon wax spray from a sail shop for the lines it works.... and all the above also work..
one thing is to trim ur kite and leave it and just kite ...... balls to the wall .......

Some good answers there, I like the under bar system, never a problem, don't fly way over powered, bear of wind a bit and or push the bar out. But above all wash the bar and lines in fresh water using a hose when you can. Stops them sticking.

What depower? Go and pump up a different kite or edge harder

Buy a fuel, you soon learn that adjusting that trim does sweet **** all!

All jokes aside I would like some clarification on trim? Played around with it and never feel any difference, plus with my ozone bar I can never get it to lock on anyway.

The basic answer is that it adjusts where the "bite/clutch" point is on your centreline.
When flying the right kite in its designed wind range the bite point on your centerline should be when the bar is in the middle of the length of the centreline between the QR and the trim or splitter depending on the bars brand.
By "Bite" i'm referring to the point of travel of the bar on the centerline when the backlines/steering lines become tight but do not move the trailing wingtip toward the rider.
The reason you want this bite point to occur halfway tru the travel of the bar on the centreline is of course that it allows you the maximum and equal amounts of ability to change the angle of attack of the kite to provide more or less angle of attack in the kite as required ( In simple terms more or less power).
When increasing the trim the kite will fly with the trailing edge flatter in relation to the leading edge and thus move the bite point closer to the rider and of course vise the versa.
There are other reasons to trim your kite , like trimming to allow the kite to fly more forward in the window and gain a better angle upwind .. or trimming it so that it loops deeper and gives you more wang for a megaloop.
But thats something that comes with time and knowing your gear.
Ok i know all this sounds abit tech , to make it simples .. On a cleat system (North ect) if you pull the trim line toward you the bar will become closer when at the bite point , on a strap system(Pre 2015 Best ect ) (usually "red" and "black" straps) the red will bring the bar toward you at the bite point.
Whenever the bar comes toward you in simple terms people say you have "Depowered" the kite.
Much easier to show than explain in text.

Gazuki said..
All jokes aside I would like some clarification on trim? Played around with it and never feel any difference, plus with my ozone bar I can never get it to lock on anyway.

pulling on the trim adjusts the length of your back lines (makes shorter)
when unhooking have to get the trim right first
I basically leave mine trimmed all the time since I k now that is right but let it out occassionally in light winds

cheers for the help will give the bars a good wash see if that helps if not will try the wax the riding down wind or tugging on the swivel dosnt seem like a fix but if thats the only way .
i dont actually use the depower often its normaly just when its getting to the point when i have to call it a day soon and its not worth pumping up a smaller kite or when im out like the other day gusting 20-32 knots .
so after using other kites ware depower is effortless and when your paying big $$$ i sort of feel that things should just work as well as they could do. any way not trying to bag ss i still rate the rpm .
on the other hand i might just not be used to it so i will also try just cruising and just playing around with it .

yeah there is no doubt the bar is solid

Underoath said..

Kamikuza said..

juggler said..
What depower? Go and pump up a different kite or edge harder

^ does not understand what trim is for...

Whats trim for then?

Trimming.