spreader bar corrosion - check your bar !

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Surfer62
Surfer62
1357 posts
1357 posts
10 Mar 2009 11:20am
Broken spreader bar !

Rigging kite and spreader bar drops down ? Oops forgot to tighten I think, but look down and see the bar has broken at one end ( see pic ). Appears to have corroded and decided to break, at least I was only setting up !

The welds may have been faulty from new and allowed corrosion to start off, it appears to have crystalised metal at breaking points, both sides gave way, the harness straps cover the weld points.

Less than one year old (dakine)

Check your bar, a bar self examination ?





airush geoff
airush geoff
974 posts
974 posts
10 Mar 2009 11:26am
Have seen the hook snap off a few times but never at the end like that. Pretty nasty when it happens.....
NSW, 4382 posts
10 Mar 2009 2:00pm
Take it back to where you bought it, I'm sure they will replace it, if they don't send me a PM I have a few spare ones. That break is unusual, but I have seen a few break at the hook.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
rescueme
rescueme
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
10 Mar 2009 1:29pm
Classic case of chloride stress corrosion cracking. The cracking would have started at the points of maximum tensile stress on the outer part of the shackle near the toe of the fillet weld. Residual stresses from welding may have contributed but I reckon its poor material specification - I bet you'll find the alloy used was 304 stainless steel (18% Chromium 8% Nickel) rather than 316 SS which has additionally 2% Molybdenum for chloride stress corrosion cracking resistance but is more expensive. 304 is banned from offshore oil & gas applications for just that reason.
Surfer62
Surfer62
1357 posts
1357 posts
10 Mar 2009 4:47pm
Steve, thanks for the offer

Rescueme, thanks for the tech advice, I suspect you are spot on, is it worth welding up ?
the gaz
the gaz
WA
173 posts
WA, 173 posts
10 Mar 2009 5:31pm
Good tech advice rescueme, explains why it happens.

I had my hook snap off on the 2nd last day of a holiday, luckily it wasn't during a jump. Fixed under warranty without a problem.
junglist
junglist
VIC
701 posts
VIC, 701 posts
10 Mar 2009 8:22pm
And now for the less than technical response........

Dodgy shorts mate

TA-DA
Shane71
Shane71
QLD
50 posts
QLD, 50 posts
10 Mar 2009 7:51pm
Surfer62 said...

Steve, thanks for the offer

Rescueme, thanks for the tech advice, I suspect you are spot on, is it worth welding up ?


There is no point in having it welded as you will only have the same problem. The material that is more readily availble that should have been used is 316L, it is the marine grade stainless that is designed for welding, the issue occurs during the welding process, cant remember the dets as it was too long ago when I did my metallurgical stuff at uni. Probably made in China using Indian Stainless - always going to be an issue. :)
ewan kite
ewan kite
VIC
928 posts
VIC, 928 posts
10 Mar 2009 10:46pm
yeh ive had that exact thing happen to my old 09!! cabrinha harness except the actual spreder bar snapped in half (the shaft). i snapped mid kiteloop and wasnt a nice landing.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
10 Mar 2009 10:12pm
maybe the fashion department of dakine have taken over and forgot about the technical specs. dakine used to be very good??
rescueme
rescueme
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
11 Mar 2009 11:08am
Surfer62 said...

Steve, thanks for the offer

Rescueme, thanks for the tech advice, I suspect you are spot on, is it worth welding up ?


Prob not as Shane71 said as you will have the same problem. Theoretically you could repair with an alloy with higher pitting resistance e.g. SMO254 or a duplex, and also apply some PWHT (post weld heat treatment) to reduce any residual stresses, then you'd probably be OK for a bit, but it might just then fail in a different area. Coating the area would also solve the problem, prevent the seawater getting in contact with the metal surface, but coatings are **** and would probably just get scratched off.

The other failure mechanism I though to could be fatigue from cyclic stress, as the tension in the lines is always changing and this would change the transmitted stress in the spreader bar. Corrosion environments from seawater simply increases susceptibility to fatigue.

Also cracking normally initiates at a small defect (e.g. a scratch or nick), a highly polished surface could slow crack initiation too.
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