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desmond
desmond
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
21 Mar 2007 11:29am
Hey guys I am just starting kite surfing and have done a couple lessons and i Love it!!!!javascript:insertsmilie('')
Big Smile

I was wondering what kind of Kite to buy I was thinking of the k.one tribal 2 I have heard really good things about that Kite and hear it's good for beginners and has a good wind range, starting off I just want one kite and will get another later on. Or maybe I had a look at the 07 naish torch kite and that looked good as well.

Is there anyone that has used these kites that can give me any advice.

Also I way about 90kg what size do you reckon I should get, I was thinking a 11m or would I be best suited on a 13m,

thanks guys,

high as a kite
high as a kite
SA
1312 posts
SA, 1312 posts
21 Mar 2007 2:55pm
Hey Des,
Tribal are good until you crash them. 4 kites around here needing repairs since Xmas.
desmond
desmond
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
21 Mar 2007 2:07pm
Oh true...i plan on doing that a lot hmmmm
marno
marno
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
21 Mar 2007 6:20pm
Get an Airush Flow or DNA. I have a Flow, am also a beginner and love it. Easy to relaunch, stable, good depower etc etc etc.
newk
newk
WA
14 posts
WA, 14 posts
21 Mar 2007 8:44pm
I think either the Flexifoil Atom or GK Sonic is good. I am about the same weight as you and use a 11m Sonic and that works very well for me as a beginner.
myes myes
myes myes
WA
223 posts
WA, 223 posts
21 Mar 2007 8:53pm
forget about an 11m you will need at least a 13m minimum
justin_hannan
justin_hannan
QLD
142 posts
QLD, 142 posts
21 Mar 2007 10:20pm
If you are just choosing between those two kite then I would suggest the Naish torch 3, great learner kite, especially if you want to fly C kites which I would recommend you do. Torch 3 is a soft kite ie. Has very light steering, easing into power zone, if forgiveing in loops but still has a great wind range and good power. Also has very good relaunch. Bit of a softer kite as apposed to something like the 07 Slingshot Fuel which has a bit more of a gruntier feel. But really, to tell you the truth, which ktie you buy isn't going to make that much of a difference. There as so many, which claim so many things, all which are pritty simular anyway. C kites these days have almost as much depower as bows anyway. I don't see what people go on about with bow's depower, if you let go of the bar on an 07 Fuel it will fully depower just the same as a bow. Most 07 Kites you should be sweet, some older kites I definently would not recommend.
wilski
wilski
WA
21 posts
WA, 21 posts
22 Mar 2007 1:15am
hi Des,

i've learn't to kite with a tribal 2, no problems, and no repairs needed since november 06. If you spend time looking after your kit, packing up etc, whatever brand / make then it won't need fixing... If you can fly the kite without crashing it every 10 minutes on the water and beach, and you learn when it's necessary to use your safety release, you can avoid most situations that break kites. I've been very pleased with my tribal, I don't think it's any more fragile compared to any other kite on the beach.

'Overpowered' is dead right - fly the kite lots and learn how it behaves and misbehaves in strong and light winds - you learn loads about the kite in low winds, and it's more forgiving if things go wrong!

good luck
desmond
desmond
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
22 Mar 2007 12:43pm
Thanks for the feed back guys, I will start with one kite and buy another as soon as i can afford it. I booked my next lesson for next Friday and can't wait, my instructor said he will let me fly the tribal so I will see how I like that, I will either go for a C kite or Hybrid not a bow, just still trying to find the major differences between the two. But thanks everyone and yeh hopefully no matter what kite I get it should hopefully do the job!
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
22 Mar 2007 3:09pm
Good luck and have fun.

And don't worry about which kite you get, focus on looking after it.

at 100kg the 13m would be a nicer choice.

and 5th liners are easy to relaunch so get used to using the safety in order to avoid powered up crashes.

remember beaches are usually sand mixed with shells, so if you do crash take some time to check for shell cuts.
And take note that you would be searching a long time to find a warranty covering crashes (funny Thing).

The kite you buy should be the one you are comfortable with and have fun with. Note that type is not on that list.
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
22 Mar 2007 4:55pm
Talk to your local kiteshops and try as many as you can. Shops are going to be biased to the brands they sell, me included of course, but that's understandable as the brands we sell are the brands we have faith and believe they are the ones we would recommend to our customers. Likewise, a lot of people giving you comments here are either sponsored or linked with a shop/brand in some ways or another, so a lot of biased views there too. At the end of the day, it all depends on how much you wanna spend, a bow/hybrid has heaps more depowering than C-kites, making it a lot safer let alone easier to learn on. But as they have only been around for a couple of years, you may still have to pay a bit for them. Talk to your local shops and get them to take you out and let you demo as many different brands as possible, and not just one shop, go round all the shops in your area so you get to try all different ones. Happy hunting!
burley
burley
VIC
132 posts
VIC, 132 posts
22 Mar 2007 6:39pm
go for a 13-14 at least, if you don't you'll be kicking yourself.
desmond
desmond
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
22 Mar 2007 7:18pm
Hey thanks guys, for all the help giving me heaps to think about.

Will the shop let me try their gear if im like still learning obviously i might crash it a fair bit???

cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
22 Mar 2007 9:39pm
Hi dude, no offence to the eastern state forum posters but take the advice of the local crew in your area more when it comes to kite size... they now what winds you have to what kite might be best suited, by local I don’t mean a general w.a area but local as in the dudes on the beach. They know the type of winds and the strengths, plus can see your physical size and tell you about their own preferences for comparison...then again your best to choose the type of kite you want first then ask about sizes.

Two kites will always be better than one but money doesn’t grow on tree’s................

I find it hard to get a demo of kite gear as it is... but you can in most instances if pressing the point... be honest and tell em you suck (you can board start and tack up and down yeah?) and they will prob supervise you with their gear... who knows.. I don’t run a shop... Good luck anyhow.
bellz
bellz
WA
572 posts
WA, 572 posts
22 Mar 2007 9:47pm
get a dna or a flow they make everything easy to pick up!!!
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
23 Mar 2007 1:27am
Have to say that I agree with Bellz, I weigh about 90kgs and learnt on a 10mtr Flow SLE. I thought about a 12 but decided to go with the 10 as it is a bit easier/safer to learn on and the long term plan was to buy a bigger kite as well. I was keen to get out as often as possible though and found that I was often struggling to get going in lighter winds but loved it when it got up around 20 knots. Six months on and I have just bought a 14 Flow to complement the 10 and am loving it.
Having said that I have not tried any other kite and I'm sure there is plenty of other good ones, I have heard good things about the latest tribals but was so happy with my 10 though that I just went with the Flow
Dragon22
Dragon22
QLD
25 posts
QLD, 25 posts
23 Mar 2007 7:50am
Hey dude. Alot of people have said get a flow or DNA. Good advise hey. I thought i would get a big grunty kite that i wouldnt out do. BAD mistake. Had it for 2 months and couldnt hardly get up. And all my mates who started the same time as me were doing fine on their flows. I got one and was up straight away. Consider it dude. And try to see through all the B.S. Some instructors have deals with certain companys so they push their product, even if its not good for you. Shop around. You can do that in W.A Cant do it where i am. Thats why i bought a dud.
Hope it helps
J
Awaken
Awaken
QLD
128 posts
QLD, 128 posts
23 Mar 2007 8:34am
Try Try before you Buy.If there is a brand out there that you are considering ring them up and see if you can get a demo in your local area or who to contact to get a demo.Even if it costs you another lesson $100 instead of a 15-1800 kite that youre not happy with I know what i would choose.
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
23 Mar 2007 11:14am
We require riders to have at least an IKO level 3 card before we let people demo or rent our gear. If you have not reached such level as yet, perhaps an informal session with a qualified instructor (should cost less than a formal lesson) will also give you the oppo to test their range as well as improving your riding skills at the same time?


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Originally posted by desmond

Hey thanks guys, for all the help giving me heaps to think about.

Will the shop let me try their gear if im like still learning obviously i might crash it a fair bit???



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