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dalestanton
dalestanton
WA
272 posts
dalestanton dalestanton
WA, 272 posts
24 Aug 2005 10:44pm
The powerlock should be out soon, you could use a second loop if you are desperate but its winter and the wind is crap so hang in there. They'll be out before the start of the windy season we all call summer... I'll be a happy chappy when they are out.--- Other than that I love the kite and wont ride me old ones.

hmm gnaraloo soon.....ohh yeah

later
dale
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
kiterdan kiterdan
WA, 680 posts
24 Aug 2005 10:45pm
No matter how you look at it, its a step foward.
You have to admit, when 14m kites are literally falling out of the sky, and some bloke is planing (and staying upwind) on a 12m and 130 drop, it is a decent kite irrespective of small things like bar pressure.
It may not be a kite for all though
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
puppetonastring puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
25 Aug 2005 9:47am
quote:
Originally posted by kiterdan
14m kites are literally falling out of the sky, and some bloke is planing (and staying upwind) on a 12m and 130 drop,

Yep seen that too.
And the other extreme. I was out for about 30 mins in really crappy gusts on a 7M - adjusting the trim, having no fun at all bw sinking to hanging on - & there was a 9M & 2 12M XBows all cruising along & smiling, from when I arrived till after I left.
I havent rushed out to buy one yet - but Im seriously wondering Y not
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
poor relative poor relative
WA, 9106 posts
25 Aug 2005 10:03am
I think that there are some minor issues with the bow, like bar pressure, and perhaps self launching being challenging, but overall i just adore this kite.
it does for me everything i want in a kite and a little more thrown in. Again time will tell how great this kite is and as is the same with washing powder the next model will be new and improved, just like the traditional kites have been.
I love my bow, and i'm off to caress it as the wind is crap.....
shooterMcgavin
shooterMcgavin
WA
90 posts
shooterMcgavin shooterMcgavin
WA, 90 posts
25 Aug 2005 10:29am
I heard all the front panels were blowing out
where is the dictionary????
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
poor relative poor relative
WA, 9106 posts
25 Aug 2005 11:20am
shooter.......go get a spell checker theres a good chap
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
25 Aug 2005 3:29pm
The cracks are starting to show

Seems WA was the only state to get over hyped about a fairly good BEGINNER to Intermediate kite.

Geezz the WA distributor must be a bloody good salesman.

As I said before great for the VOLVO drivers, seems there are quite a few in WA.
shooterMcgavin
shooterMcgavin
WA
90 posts
shooterMcgavin shooterMcgavin
WA, 90 posts
25 Aug 2005 7:50pm
By volvo drivers you mean old people like poor relative right??
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
puppetonastring puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
25 Aug 2005 8:48pm
Shooters trolling 4 a bite.
An like all good fishermen he's always up to changing lures mid troll.
I like that last one ....very flashy.........lets just wait-n-see.

ps: I wonder 2 just what qualifications &/or test flight experience RK has which endows him with the ability to categorise new a release kite so emphatically within the boundaries of the, I would have thought still somewhat nebulous virtues, of a "BEGINNER to intermediate kite"
pleese explooyn
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
gruezi gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
25 Aug 2005 9:52pm
Hey there Wave.

I think "the meaning of kite" is just being out there in the elements and loving it.

My new toy gives me the above, better, cheaper and faster.

professor
professor
QLD
277 posts
professor professor
QLD, 277 posts
26 Aug 2005 5:34am
quote:
Originally posted by puppetonastring
pleese explooyn

written in the vernacular how kewl

$p34k 1337 sploitz \o/

0\/\/n3d
hi fliya
hi fliya
WA
128 posts
hi fliya hi fliya
WA, 128 posts
26 Aug 2005 5:50pm
"You have to admit, when 14m kites are literally falling out of the sky, and some bloke is planing (and staying upwind) on a 12m and 130 drop, it is a decent kite"

Dunno about that kiterdan, The few times I've seen the x-bow riders out, they've been doing just as much walking upwind in the light days as the rest of us on similar sized kites and boards.

Haven't seen anything amazingly different from a x-bows performance compared to the conventional kites on the same day come to think of it!?

Damn I hope we get some wind this weekend...

Cooky
Cooky
WA
148 posts
Cooky Cooky
WA, 148 posts
26 Aug 2005 7:01pm
Guys are getting out on crossbows in less wind with smaller kites, they turn faster than conventional LEI's, the depower makes them perfect for gusty bull#### easterlies and the powerlock will be out soon. If only we could all afford them no one would be debating their worth.
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
HungLong HungLong
WA, 859 posts
26 Aug 2005 7:49pm
quote:
Originally posted by Cooky

If only we could all afford them no one would be debating their worth.


The biggest draw back of all !, I'll save my money thanks...

regards browneee
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
greenleader greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
27 Aug 2005 12:12am
professor, please explain the last cryptic
Kitepower Australia
Kitepower Australia
NSW
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NSW, 4382 posts
27 Aug 2005 8:26am
quote:
Originally posted by gruezi

Hey there Wave.

I think "the meaning of kite" is just being out there in the elements and loving it.

My new toy gives me the above, better, cheaper and faster.




Nicely put Gruezi!
Being out in the elements and enjoying it is what should come first, if someone is finding its more important to have the latest kite, they are not part of the Alkiter network.
Membership of Alkiter is unasked for, it is not an organization, there is no leader, or at least none that could be named.
The disparraging work of the Poleclan minnions, teamprawns and the general lemmings, is ineffective to Alkiters.

A message from the Alkiter Network.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
fences
fences
VIC
89 posts
fences fences
VIC, 89 posts
27 Aug 2005 12:41pm
brownee...
not willilng to pay that much??
Its cheaper than a hellfish! AND THIS ONE DOESN'T EXPLODE!
regards
Phil

Oh yah Ive seen 12m Xbows going and other kites luffing too! They have to work the kite like a bitch though
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
bondo bondo
QLD, 699 posts
27 Aug 2005 1:31pm
quote:
Originally posted by fences

brownee...
not willilng to pay that much??
Its cheaper than a hellfish! AND THIS ONE DOESN'T EXPLODE!
regards
Phil

Oh yah Ive seen 12m Xbows going and other kites luffing too! They have to work the kite like a bitch though


but with the hellfish you get more "bang" for your buck

<ducks>
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
kiterdan kiterdan
WA, 680 posts
27 Aug 2005 1:40pm
Kiters didnt have to wait till 2006 to get a kite that depowered by pushing the bar out. RRD did it with the wave type in 2005.
Apparently one of the 2006 RRD kites will have an option of having two different bars: one for waves (push out to depower), one for freestyle. All will have the same bridle as RRD wave type I.
This will be the second season for the kite so the flaws with the bar and bridle system will have been addressed.
Not sure if the windrange compares to crossbow though. Anyone ridden both?
And it is a bit cheaper too!!!
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
carbine carbine
WA, 1450 posts
27 Aug 2005 2:04pm
its low aspect and doesn't jump.
glaucus atlanticus
glaucus atlanticus
122 posts
glaucus atlanticus glaucus atlanticus
122 posts
27 Aug 2005 4:06pm
The Nova has got to be a better kite than the x-bow simply because of the design teams expirence, is anyone riding a Nova yet?
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
kiterdan kiterdan
WA, 680 posts
27 Aug 2005 7:36pm
doesn't jump?
doesn't jump as high??
Maybe, but after all, it is a wave kite.
We'll have to wait for this summer. The RRD R&D team are here this summer.
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
carbine carbine
WA, 1450 posts
27 Aug 2005 8:22pm
wave kite?

Would be usefull if there was some waves.



R&D team.

Lol!.

There isn't much science that goes into making these kites. The people who design them are backyarders just chucking there hand at it.

Don't kid your self that there are "R&D teams".

Look at best.

Uncle bill and his three mates hiring a factory in china.
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
HungLong HungLong
WA, 859 posts
27 Aug 2005 9:51pm
quote:
Originally posted by carbine

There isn't much science that goes into making these kites. The people who design them are backyarders just chucking there hand at it.

Don't kid your self that there are "R&D teams".

Look at best.

Uncle bill and his three mates hiring a factory in china.


Stop talking sheit Carbine... Go and learn the basic's between a pulley bar and a sheetable bar before you start to comment on the reality of R & D teams... I've seen such teams at work, even in our small corner of the world, I've even ridden some of them my self...

regards browneee
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
QLD
927 posts
PsYLoR PsYLoR
QLD, 927 posts
27 Aug 2005 11:57pm
this topic is quite funny
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
HungLong HungLong
WA, 859 posts
27 Aug 2005 10:07pm
Yeah it's better than watching any of the soapies on TV...
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
carbine carbine
WA, 1450 posts
27 Aug 2005 10:16pm
wtf has pulley bars got to do with me commenting on brands r&d? (btw I know the difference, do you?)



downloading surfplan off the interweb doesn't constitute r&d.

Who are the big brands with R&d teams? Naish, North...?

ken winner, don montague (not mit graduates by a long shot)

I found this pic of best and saubers computer design setups.


dachopper
dachopper
WA
1806 posts
dachopper dachopper
WA, 1806 posts
28 Aug 2005 7:25am
hehe , thats quite funny
azza
azza
1338 posts
azza azza
1338 posts
28 Aug 2005 8:28am
quote:
Originally posted by HungLong
... I've seen such teams at work, even in our small corner of the world, I've even ridden some of them my self...

regards browneee @ best...


I've never ridden a R & D team... How do they handle? Can you ride them all at once, or is it just one member at a time? Are they fussy about who goes on top? Did you get to ride in the middle?

I find this intriguing, I've wondered about the "group thing", now that kite manufacturers are offering it to us I might just try it. Which brands are offering this service on our beaches? (I guess we can put Best down as a definite, thanks Browneee.) Is there much difference in the ride between one brand and the next, or is it all just marketing hype? Is bigger better?

And what about bar pressure... is a firmer bar better for riding a team?

[}:)]
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
waveslave waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
28 Aug 2005 8:40am
Hey Chine,
Are you talking about that R&D team called the BEST GIRLS?
Please Register, or first...
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