2nd kite a different brand?

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Phil27
Phil27
WA
194 posts
WA, 194 posts
7 Jan 2015 12:03pm
I have a 2013 11m switchblade which has been easy to learn on and ideally I would like an 8m switchblade to compliment it. I have been keeping an eye out for one in my price range (2nd hand) in WA but to no avail just yet, I have heard its best to stick with the same brand for interchangeability but is it such a bad idea to go with another brand for the 2nd kite? Considering an 8m Naish Park which I think would be a good 2nd choice, any thoughts from those in the know?

BTW I'm 87kgs, I think 11m and 8m would be a good combo...
Greggor
Greggor
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
7 Jan 2015 6:36pm
Both are adequate kites to learn on, switchblade being slightly more beginner friendly and easier to fly but only marginal in my opinion

Both have a push away safety release and both have a single front line flag system (should be able to interchange the bar)

The Naish has under the bar depower vs the switchblade above bar (personal preference but you will develop your own opinion)

As long as you get the person who sold it to you to show you how to use the safety and practice a bit using it i dont see too much of a problem with 2 different kites, i had it when i was learning and i think if anything it made me a better kiter able to adapt to new gear quicker.

An 8m is a small kite for your weight and it will take awhile to get the most out of it no matter what brand you choose, make sure your reasonably powered on your first run, small kites in low wind are not fun at all and that will hinder your progression more than anything i would say anything over 24 knots on a 136 twin tip
nigelw2
nigelw2
VIC
237 posts
VIC, 237 posts
7 Jan 2015 8:30pm
Sound advice by Greggor, just be aware Cabrinha only went to single front line flagging in 2014.
Alysum
Alysum
NSW
1030 posts
NSW, 1030 posts
7 Jan 2015 11:32pm
I guess sticking to a brand is good advice... but what if you change to a brand that's even easier to fly ?

Like you I also started with an 11m Switchblade 2011. I later purchased a 13m Switch Element 3 and I find it a lot easier to fly than the Switchblade (which I find is quite an aggressive kite not as smooth). So I've just ordered another Element 3, a 9m I will keep flying all 3 though depending on wind conditions.

Just a personal preference... if you buy different brands you will know what you prefer.
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy
635 posts
635 posts
7 Jan 2015 9:28pm
General consensus round here is that Naish are perhaps better suited to lighter riders (and I know 87kgs isn't that heavy) and that the German brands (North,Core etc) and Cabrinha tend to give you a bit more grunt to them so the heavier guys tend to like them better

Depends on how powerful you want your kites to feel

YMMV

windreams
windreams
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
8 Jan 2015 12:28am
You know what bugs me about having 2 different brand cars the flicker is on different sides of the steering wheel.

Anyhow a bit off track but the point is if it’s a different brand or even if it’s a different model (year) there will be slight differences, especially in the bar. If I won the lotto I’d change all my kites out at the same time every season and pay RR but I’m not that lucky so I purchase my kites as needed and other than sticking to the same style of kite it’s whatever is good value for money at the time.

Three different brands make up my 4 kite quiver and yep they are slightly different to ride but just like the flicker you get use to them. First world problem.
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
7 Jan 2015 11:27pm
Park will suit you fine size wise.

Imo difference in bars is a very minor things.. Yeh they are different but after a few sessions you will get used to it...


The thing you will have to get used to is that the park will turn a lot quicker because it smaller and has more of a C design ... and it may hinder your progression.

I started off on an 11m vector and got an 8m park and it was a night mare going from one to the other because I was too agrees on the park. Ended up selling the vector. Got a 10m park.

As you only have one kite there no danger in getting the park as you need another kite and plus you need to try new things my bet is that you'll might find you like it enough to change the swticn blade.

If you like massive floaty jumps try the 9m rebel
Phil27
Phil27
WA
194 posts
WA, 194 posts
8 Jan 2015 12:01pm
Cool, some good answers...

how come the red thumbs for Alysum? Seems like a decent comment..I have only used the switchblade so have no comparison, feels easy to use though.

Greggor - you say 8m might be a bit small, would getting a 9m instead have too much overlap with an 11m, regardless of brand? The soft feel of the Park might help that a little..I used the 11m in low to mid 20 knots, fully depowered and bricking it, definitely at its/my fun limit slightly above 20. My board is a Gaastra Xenon 145 which might help more with the 8m?

Glasstraxx - I am very new to the sport, progressing well but new so no floaty jumps yet, few floaty face plants maybe..

My thoughts for overall quiver were the 11m which I have, next an 8m then perhaps a 15/16m for the 12knot days...good plan? Also intend to get into waves (the reason for learning to kite) so the surfboard will also give a bit more float! Is a surfboard better in lighter winds due to the foam/extra volume? Usually the case windsurfing.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
8 Jan 2015 12:34pm
a beginner early intermediate having mixed brand quivers IMHO stunts progression, I've witnessed this often , I've yet to see some one progress quicker than someone on a same kite quiver, I've been kiting a long while and pulled my 7 edge out after using my hadlow 8 for months, very frustrating beginning to a session until I adjusted, doing this regular as a lesser skilled kiter is why IMO it doesn't work, however some kites are better matched, switchblade to edge or rebel, have similar handling
Greggor
Greggor
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
8 Jan 2015 5:10pm
Phil27 said..
Greggor - you say 8m might be a bit small, would getting a 9m instead have too much overlap with an 11m, regardless of brand? The soft feel of the Park might help that a little..I used the 11m in low to mid 20 knots, fully depowered and bricking it, definitely at its/my fun limit slightly above 20. My board is a Gaastra Xenon 145 which might help more with the 8m?
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An 8m kite should not be small for WA. I think the 11/8 combo is quite a nice combo, Ive been riding a 12/8 combo for the last 2 years and it works well for me, never have a bad session on my 8m kite and im about the same weight as you, you will find that as you progress your wind range will expand for each kite. The size of your board on the other hand while good for progression and light wind may not suit you when your getting up into the higher area of your kites wind range a 135 - 138 would better suit your weight for general freeride (dont get rid of the Xenon though as its great to have a nice big board sometimes.)

I reckon with the bigger kites just hold off for a bit and see if you need it, WA gets rocking wind and i dont think you will use it enough to justify it, also if your going to jump on a surfboard soon, the big beast will just sit there gathering dust.
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