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junglejim1971
junglejim1971
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29 Nov 2015 9:39am
Hi all my 12 year old daughter wants to have a go kiteboarding she weighs in at a massive 36kg can anyone recommend a kite size for her.

my smallest kite is 7m and I'm thinking she may need a 5 or a 6

Any info would be helpful
cauncy
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29 Nov 2015 7:27am
Uno or 4 mtr reo
Gilly3
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29 Nov 2015 9:38am
My son at the age of 14 decided he wanted to learn, and at the time he was 45kg. I was adamant that I was going to get him a 6m kite to learn on because it just made sense that a smaller kite would generate less power.

After speaking to the guys at my local shop they convinced me otherwise.......small kites are aimed at adults for use in high wind/storm conditions, they are made to fly in 25-30knts plus. Their advice made more sense then my idea so I opted to go a couple of sizes bigger than what I originally wanted and bought an 8m Switchblade for him to learn on. I might add that he was very adept at flying a trainer kite and had even been using a skim board in the shorey's with the trainer.....

The biggest thing that made sense to me was that I could teach him in lighter winds due to the kite size!

I found that the shops advice worked for me in my situation......

Good Luck!
junglejim1971
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29 Nov 2015 11:33am
cool great advice I might just keep her on the trainer for a while till she gets the hang of things a lil more
KiteBud
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29 Nov 2015 10:45am
Gilly3 is right, most small LEI kites usually need a minimum of about 18 knots to fly well.

The problem is the transition from a foil trainer kite to an 8m LEI kite with long lines for a 34kg learner is dangerous to say the least...

As Cauncy suggested, getting an Ozone Uno 4m is a much better alternative. Due to it's light weight, this kite will fly well in low winds starting from about 12 knots with long lines and a bit more wind if using short lines. Short lines is what will make this safer for your daughter, the shorter the safer.

I've seen young kids ride with the 4m Uno so it's not only a kite you can use for training but for riding when the wind blows 20 knots or more at this sort of weight.

Teaching lightweight young kiters SAFELY is one of the most challenging things I had to do as an instructor.

Christian
flyingcab
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29 Nov 2015 2:46pm
Uno with short lines, 1 strut gets a massive wind range and short lines means shorter power strokes
junglejim1971
junglejim1971
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29 Nov 2015 3:04pm
thanks to all who have replied so far its very helpful info for me no I will do some research on the 4m
axion
axion
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29 Nov 2015 6:22pm
Maybe a bigger kite with shorter lines and depowered would be the go, small kites can be really fast and I reckon a slowed down bigger kite would be the way to go as it would be more manageable.
junglejim1971
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1 Dec 2015 9:29pm
yep I'm thinking that too lol I have several thoughts on the go atm haha
Kozzie
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1 Dec 2015 11:22pm
junglejim1971 said..
Hi all my 12 year old daughter wants to have a go kiteboarding she weighs in at a massive 36kg can anyone recommend a kite size for her.

my smallest kite is 7m and I'm thinking she may need a 5 or a 6

Any info would be helpful


ive had to teach kids smaller and younger then this sadly. i dont really agree with it because there has been no real studies on any possible damages to a growing body. a 10m kite can pull a 50 foot boat rule comes to mind.

anyways the trick is to get a relatively small kite so a 7 would be good. something you could still use for when there little necks have snapped. and heres the important part........... use short lines. im talking 15m lines.

now as stated a tiny kite like a 5 is just to quick to learn on so what i would personally do if it was my kids is teach them on a 2 line stunt kite, there super fast and quick and will give them a vague idea on it all. now after that you chuck them on the 7m kite with 15m lines itll seem comparitively to the stunt kite ULLLLTRA SLOOOWWWWWW

next little trick is to try get there harness hook as low as possible. they have little arms and cant comfortably reach the bar properly. if you can find one small enough get a tiny seat harness with a low harness hook.

now next step to help the little **** machines out is to trim "depower" the kite a bit bringing the "sweet spot" all way down within there little arms reach.

but most of all the golden rule never teach friends and family and unless your qualified with some recent experience your basically just running an unnecessary risk. then again you may have some **** instructors available with unsuitable equipment so who knows.


jaysmith
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2 Dec 2015 8:46am
small kite designed for kids, that flies well in moderate winds (at least that's what they say).

bladekites.com/kite/tiny-beast/
Kozzie
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3 Dec 2015 11:13am
jaysmith said..
small kite designed for kids, that flies well in moderate winds (at least that's what they say).

bladekites.com/kite/tiny-beast/


that tag line of "take a look at them now because they might be a future star" **** pisses me off. its pretty common to see local kids pulled out of school as young as 8 years old for kitesurfing. basicly in the developing country popular kite spots the locals for decades have figured the best way there kid can make a living is to accomodate the blow in tourists. where a local kite instructor at 20 can make more then his mechanic father you can see where the motive comes from.

what you end up getting is some good to average local kite bums who have no literacy skills due to being pulled out of school and told to kite with there tout uncle/beer pouring auntie

they often develop back problems and blow out knees etc

i dont blame them or there decision to do so in any way we do simular with our atheletes but there unable to provide a basic schooling on the side makeing the situation all that more desperate and when the medical conditions arise there soolajwf

the bar and lines and harness is really the main issue here anyways you need there arms and body to be properly supported.

think ive ranted enough now good luck with it all.
kemp90
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3 Dec 2015 5:50pm
There is a young girl that gets out in the bay with us. She is 30kg on the dot. She has a north buzz. Or if it's light she gets on a 7m pivot.
As soon as my girl hits 30kg I'll get hey on a kite. Can't wait. These kids are the future of the sport!
junglejim1971
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3 Dec 2015 11:07pm
yep got cha I will be keeping her on my trainer for a bit any ways but to all that have commented so far thank you I will keep considering what is the best way to go if there is one lol
Plummet
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4 Dec 2015 4:16am
Gilly3 said..
My son at the age of 14 decided he wanted to learn, and at the time he was 45kg. I was adamant that I was going to get him a 6m kite to learn on because it just made sense that a smaller kite would generate less power.

After speaking to the guys at my local shop they convinced me otherwise.......small kites are aimed at adults for use in high wind/storm conditions, they are made to fly in 25-30knts plus. Their advice made more sense then my idea so I opted to go a couple of sizes bigger than what I originally wanted and bought an 8m Switchblade for him to learn on.

Good Luck!


I've got say that my 3 strut 8m catalyst and 6m reo fly excellently in light winds. I use them in the kitebuggy at a lot light winds than kitesurfing and they are sweet.


glendog
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13 Dec 2015 7:45am
I taught my baby bro (13 years younger than me) mainly on a 9 rpm and even a 12 when it was super light. He picked it up super quick concidering he lives in darwin and only kites when he visits me on the holidays. He was about 30kg when i first started. Pretty stoked we can both kite togeather now.
Phoney
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13 Dec 2015 5:41pm
Kozzie said..

ive had to teach kids smaller and younger then this sadly. i dont really agree with it because there has been no real studies on any possible damages to a growing body. a 10m kite can pull a 50 foot boat rule comes to mind.





Not sure how this could be a problem? Kids bodies are pretty flexible and can recover much quicker from taking a beating than adult bodies. I grew up water skiing, was going barefoot by age 12/13, which is much, much more taxing on the body than kiting.

I'll be getting my nephews lessons as soon as they're that age.
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