8m Nitro switch for 80kg newbie??

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beanbags
beanbags
WA
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WA, 3 posts
15 Jan 2014 10:55pm
Hey team

Had lessons, can get up both ways for about 20m-50m in around 20-22 knots down wind (have tried edging up wind slightly but not really) but then finding it hard to keep speed and need to work kite hard ( and failing) subsequently sinking???
Curious about thoughts if my Nitro switch 8m kite is suited for an 80kg male with previous board and water sport experience??
beanbags
beanbags
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
16 Jan 2014 12:15am
beanbags said..

Hey team

Had lessons, can get up both ways for about 20m-50m in around 20-22 knots down wind (have tried edging up wind slightly but not really) but then finding it hard to keep speed and need to work kite hard ( and failing) subsequently sinking???
Curious about thoughts if my Nitro switch 8m kite is suited for an 80kg male with previous board and water sport experience??


Just found a 11m switch element second hand, would this be a good per chase?
blueprint
blueprint
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
16 Jan 2014 7:37am
What size board are you riding and which version of the nitro do you have? Depending on the board you are riding you may find that you are just slightly underpowered in those winds and suspect a 10m would be better up to those wind speeds

The newer versions should be fine to learn on, though you do need to be careful with sheeting in order to get the most out of them (that's pretty much all kites and it's also pretty common to be oversheeting when you first start out)

The original Element didn't have great bottom end and I think you'll find a pretty good overlap with you Nitro, new version (Element V2) has much improved this along with a few other things.

How much time have you spent on the water outside of your lessons?
snalberski
snalberski
WA
858 posts
WA, 858 posts
16 Jan 2014 10:57am
I think you should be fine with that kite. It is on the smaller end and will require a bit more work to generate the same power as a 10m in any given wind strength. Once the wind goes up to slightly higher wind strengths
(23-27knts) you will probably find that you have to work much less and the 8m will be perfect. Although manufacturers will claim kites with wind ranges of upto 15knts variation for me it seems that in reality the sweet spot of a given kite is much narrower (2-3 knts either way). Also bear in mind that as you get better at flying you will be able to juice more power from any given kite.
beanbags
beanbags
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
16 Jan 2014 11:56am
good point, i guess its better to get frustrated losing speed than terrified from to much! thanks!
blueprint
blueprint
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
16 Jan 2014 12:15pm
snalberski said..

I think you should be fine with that kite. It is on the smaller end and will require a bit more work to generate the same power as a 10m in any given wind strength. Once the wind goes up to slightly higher wind strengths
(23-27knts) you will probably find that you have to work much less and the 8m will be perfect. Although manufacturers will claim kites with wind ranges of upto 15knts variation for me it seems that in reality the sweet spot of a given kite is much narrower (2-3 knts either way). Also bear in mind that as you get better at flying you will be able to juice more power from any given kite.


I guess that's what I was getting at, as a beginner you'll struggle a bit more in the lower and upper ends of the wind range, for the Nitro 8 in the conditions you are talking about you are right on the bottom end of it's recommended wind range. So there are two solutions either tough it out with what you have which will be slow and frustrating or get another kite (which you've identified) which you'll want later anyway. You are best imo to stay with the same model you have as there are variations in the way kites handle even between models and when you are learning swapping between kites that handle differently doesn't really help......I'd try and find a Nitro 10 in the same model as you have (either V1, V2 or V3)

Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
17 Jan 2014 12:50am
Doing what you're doing will do wonders for your kite technique but sometimes if you don't have enough rag up you're not going anywhere. The depower on the switches is pretty decent I wouldn't be worried about getting the right size kite for your size. Either that or get a bigger board.

Make sure you understand how the switch flagging system works as well, it isn't anything like what the major brands are doing and dangerous if you don't setup properly or have short arms!
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