Accellerating after/during water start

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KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
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VIC, 192 posts
25 Jan 2015 6:49pm
When I water start I forget to actualy stand up and I have to force myself to move some weight from my back foot to the front one. Consequently I need loads of power to get up and stay up. If I move some weight to my front foot then I accellerate away with much less power required from the kite and can go upwind.

How should I be thinking about this? Once I am up should I:

1. Straightening my back leg a bit (dosn't seem to move my weight)
2. Move half of my weight onto my front foot
3. Swing my hips forward

I know they all amount to the same thing but I suspect that thinking about it in the right way will help, much like turning your head to look in the direction that you want to go.

stok
stok
36 posts
36 posts
25 Jan 2015 6:29pm
I'm still very much new to kiting myself, but what helps me get up and going, especially in light winds, is to aim the board down wind for the first couple of kite dives.
LittleFella
LittleFella
WA
132 posts
WA, 132 posts
25 Jan 2015 8:50pm
More wind. Bigger dive.
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
192 posts
VIC, 192 posts
26 Jan 2015 9:20am
What I am trying to say is that if I quickly move to a balanced stance with some weight on my front foot then I can get up to speed and then onto an edge in a single dive of the kite.

Conversely if keep ALL of my weight on my back leg forever then it might take 5 dives of the kite to get enough speed up to start edging.

Academically I know this but in practice I find it really hard to move my weight.

I was the same when I learn't to water ski on a single ski. The boat needed full throttle because of my bad stance where everyone else pulled out easily.

I had loads of kite a big board and loads of wind.
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
2060 posts
QLD, 2060 posts
26 Jan 2015 2:48pm
Don't forget?
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
192 posts
VIC, 192 posts
26 Jan 2015 4:28pm
Hi Loftywinds, I think you could be onto something there!

I guess mussel memory will take over eventually.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
27 Jan 2015 3:11am
Aim down wind more when you start. Say 45 Degree. Then when up and going carve upwind.

newbies most common error is trying to kite in not enough wind and then not being aggressive enough with the kite. Wang the sh it out of that kite. Move it up and down like a maniac to start with. If that's not enough you need a) more wind B) bigger kite.
bigtone667
bigtone667
NSW
1559 posts
NSW, 1559 posts
27 Jan 2015 8:09am
KiwiDave said..

Conversely if keep ALL of my weight on my back leg forever then it might take 5 dives of the kite to get enough speed up to start edging.



With all your weight on your back leg, your board will act like an anchor.

In lighter winds, I try to visualise keeping the board flat on the water and lifting myself on top of it. All this really means is I bend my rear leg, keep my front leg somewhat straight, and try to flatten out the board on the water using my ankles. Once I get a bit of speed up, I can start to edge. And occasionally, in truly light conditions, I will need to dive the kite down to 45 degrees, back to 12 and then down again to lift me up on top of the board.

If there is lots of wind, I can do whatever the hell I feel like.
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
2060 posts
QLD, 2060 posts
27 Jan 2015 3:48pm
KiwiDave said..
Hi Loftywinds, I think you could be onto something there!

I guess mussel memory will take over eventually.


Muscle. Yes, that one.
VRBones
VRBones
130 posts
130 posts
28 Jan 2015 8:44pm
bigtone667 said..
In lighter winds, I try to visualise keeping the board flat on the water and lifting myself on top of it.


I more or less do this too. The object is not to get the kite to grunt pull you up from the water while keeping your eventual stance, but lift you up enough to get you on the board (to cut the water resistance), then get moving fast enough to start planing. After you're planing you can start edging and worrying about normal kiting stance etc.

Another way to think about it is "jumping" onto the flat water. Imagine if you're trying to jump onto a knee high bench as smoothly as you can. You'll need a bit of force to start the jump off with, but your body mass shouldn't rise that much and you land on the bench with a crouch before straightening up. You want to get onto the board with as little force used from the kite as possible so that the rest of the kite power can start pulling you up to speed. Dive the kite and try to pop up onto your board in a crouch and balance as if the board is not moving (like the bench), then gradually extend your legs when you feel the board speed increasing.

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