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stan1169
stan1169
32 posts
32 posts
7 Aug 2015 1:21pm
I'm raring to go and just waiting for some decent weather and the end of the winter conditions, wind gusts etc.

My question is when do people normally get out again? Somebody mentioned October?
Also, I'm 84kg, 11m kite and very very new..... so what is the best optimum wind speed for me to safely venture out again??

(Probably Melville water - Perth if that also makes a difference?)
Thanks!
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
7 Aug 2015 4:18pm
When and how often you go out will be related to your skill level and kites/board wind range.

I never stop. Just keep kiting all year round. Selecting smaller/bigger kites and boards as the conditions allow.

for an 11m you want to look for 16-23 knots. Don't go out in wind gusting over 25 knots at this stage.

psychojoe
psychojoe
WA
2241 posts
WA, 2241 posts
7 Aug 2015 6:06pm
stan1169 said..
I'm raring to go and just waiting for some decent weather and the end of the winter conditions, wind gusts etc.

My question is when do people normally get out again? Somebody mentioned October?
Also, I'm 84kg, 11m kite and very very new..... so what is the best optimum wind speed for me to safely venture out again??

(Probably Melville water - Perth if that also makes a difference?)
Thanks!


You really need an answer from someone who actually lives in Perth.
definitely wait till October, possibly November
watch the green arrows on sea breeze
with a steady 18knot wind, not gusting over 21knots, that's some nice learning wind
You're better off on the coast on a southerly, the river is almost always gusty crap

25knots will be dangerous for you, be patient and wait for safe conditions
the first rule of kiting, if in doubt don't go out.

also, if there's nobody else at your kite spot, there's a reason, don't go out.

and when you get to a safe spot, talk to the other kiters there, tell them your situation and ask their advice, you'll want their help to launch your kite anyway
AussieDave
AussieDave
WA
68 posts
WA, 68 posts
8 Aug 2015 12:07am
I completely agree with psychojoe ... as a Perth local who kites all year round I would say to beginners don't kite in winter or unless you have nice consistant summer breezes as it will either hurt you or frustrate you.

Melville waters is cr@p and gusty and I've almost been killed a couple times by beginners people having no idea what they are doing .. you will never see me there again.
The coast is great but dont go out alone and you wont know how to self launch or land and there will be noone there if you get into trouble.

18-21kts is perfect to learn on but I do stress the importance of getting lessons, it's all the little things you pick up that make a difference to both your safety and your progression as a kiter..

dont be affraid to tell other kiters at a location your new and they will help you launch / land and give advice.

and most of all just dont be in a rush to get out, set your gear up properly, double check it and steady as she goes..

my 2c.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
8 Aug 2015 3:34am
Some great advice already. Just to add something else, from an instructors perspective... we get a lot of newbies going out in the open ocean and deep waters for the first time and in strong winds, meaning they learned and practiced only in shallow waters and light to moderate winds. Before you venture out in the ocean make sure you are competent at 1) self rescue 2) upwind body drag/board recovery and 3) water relaunch... meaning you are comfortable doing those without standing up and in choppy waters.

A 2h refresher lesson in the ocean would be a great idea to boost your confidence and make sure you are truly independent and don't loose your gear. Send me a PM if you're interested.

Also you might want to consider looking for a second (smaller) kite for those 20 knots + days which are very common in summer.

Christian
stan1169
stan1169
32 posts
32 posts
9 Aug 2015 10:35am
Some great advice, thanks. I should have mentioned that I'd had lessons and been out a couple of times alone before
I packed my kit away for the winter.
I was really looking for an indication when to get out again and in what wind.
i think that after this long break it'll be like starting afresh again so I'll definitely concentrate on body drags and other basics initially.
Buying a smaller kite isn't an option at the moment. So, the ideal wind range for my kite seems to be 16 - 21knots,
thanks
marno
marno
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
9 Aug 2015 2:54pm
Mate November is when we really start to get seabreezes again. Winds in nov can be pretty strong, just pick your time of day. When I was learning I found it was better to get down early when the wind had just come in, so it's not quite as gnarly plus there wasn't as many crew out yet so you have more room.
pattiecannon
pattiecannon
QLD
593 posts
QLD, 593 posts
11 Aug 2015 3:23pm
Stan, if it's onshore, and under 25kts you'll be alright on your 11 and you won't be the only one out. go where there are other guys, stay out of their way(ie get a launch then go down wind or go upwind a couple hundred meters and get someone to come up and launch you)

know your depower settings for your kite, shorten rear lines for lower wind when you want more power (if it's backstalling you've shortened them too much or you need a 14m) & lengthen them for the 20kt+ wind. some guys never touch their settings but it makes a big difference. get out there
Spitfire
Spitfire
WA
398 posts
WA, 398 posts
30 Aug 2015 9:24am
pattiecannon said..
Stan, if it's onshore, and under 25kts you'll be alright on your 11 and you won't be the only one out. go where there are other guys, stay out of their way(ie get a launch then go down wind or go upwind a couple hundred meters and get someone to come up and launch you)

know your depower settings for your kite, shorten rear lines for lower wind when you want more power (if it's backstalling you've shortened them too much or you need a 14m) & lengthen them for the 20kt+ wind. some guys never touch their settings but it makes a big difference. get out there


After making a heap of space from other people. Rather than wave someone down from 100 meters away. Learn how to slide launch yourself. Something every decent kiter should learn and be able todo. Fair enough if there are people around to help but people shouldn't rely on others to launch and land kites.
stan1169
stan1169
32 posts
32 posts
31 Aug 2015 11:35am
Thanks for the advice. I presume a slide launch is the same as self launch?

I tend to get help launching and then get into the water and move away from the crowded area's.


CharliesDad
CharliesDad
WA
24 posts
WA, 24 posts
2 Sep 2015 8:14pm
Saturday is looking good at this stage for Perth. Winds are WSW / SW up to 23 knots. Would stay clear of the river (Melville) at this stage as generally gusty and easy to be caught up in trees etc when you launch and are new to kiting. I would recommend you try Safety Bay. The water is pretty flat and the wind clean. Great place to learn. Was planning to head down myself on Saturday around 11am. I am sure there will be others.

When you're new getting help to launch / land from another kilter is the best course of action IMHO. Haven't come across anyone so far that won't help you out.
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