Any Tips for Riding Waves?

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howea
howea
NSW
40 posts
NSW, 40 posts
27 Dec 2009 7:30am
Hi all, I'm just starting to get into riding waves and as there is no one else around who Kitesurfs where I live, I'm unable to ask any advise.

Can someone please give me some advise?

When I get onto a wave I tend to be going too fast and either ride across the face to quickly, or I drop down the wave into the flats in front of the wave and have to power up to get out in front of the whitewash ahead of me and then I'm going too fast again???

Also, I can't really work out where my Kites supposed to be? I keep it out in front of me down-wind but as soon as I pick up the speed of the wave the kite seems to want to depower and fall out of the sky??? Especially when I'm doing a cutback.

So far I've been riding waves onshore, I'm assuming Cross/On is the best wind, so what is the best wind to kitesurf?

I've been surfing for 30 Yrs, kiting for 3. Any advise will be Muchos Grac'ias
chadster
chadster
QLD
136 posts
QLD, 136 posts
27 Dec 2009 6:36am
There is a lot going on when kiting waves

My advice get yourself a copy of ben wilsons smack dvd -

he breaks it all down - plus great footage -

I also watch his other dvds to look at kite placement

- or get some coaching -

you'll save yourself about about 2 years of trying to work it out yourself

chad
howea
howea
NSW
40 posts
NSW, 40 posts
27 Dec 2009 8:40am
Thanks Chadster,

Unfortunatly I can't get any coaching where I live and its 600Km from the nearest coaching place (buy plane,the only way) and its expensive to get there, looks like DVD's and DIY, thats how I learn't in the first place.
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
QLD
476 posts
QLD, 476 posts
27 Dec 2009 8:59am
One bit of advice that has proved useful to me was from Mark Shinn's teaching DVD he did with Naish back in 2004.

Ride a long way upwind (like a km or 2), and then come back downwind on a broad reach (45 degrees off the wind) alternately carving onto one tack then the other, trying to keep good speed and good power in the kite, following the kite turns with the board and keeping lines tight. If you are on a twin tip, then pop every now and then to mix up your stance.

Once you have the "off the wind turns" really sorted, then you can move into the waves and try and synch the turns with the wave peaks.

Different techniques are needed depending on how the waves and wind are lining up. If you are blessed with wind perfectly side-shore to the angle that the wave is breaking on, then you may be able to depower the kite and float it down the line as you ride the wave. A fast turning kite is not essential here, but a stable one like a switchblade, that stays upright even when lines go really slack, is good.

If you have crappy onshore or cross onshore waves like most of the rest of us, then you'll find that you generally have to work the kite to get in the right position to hit the wave with the board, and ride with a bit of speed. In that case a kite that turns quickly and easily is helpful. I've been enjoying the new Nomads for this type of riding, but many modern kites will fit the bill.

Practice, practice, practice.....no different from surfing in that sense!

Style On!

Andy.
milko
milko
NSW
604 posts
NSW, 604 posts
27 Dec 2009 10:44am
Here's what i would do if i was you First charge out through the surf till you get out past the breakers.. then turn onto the biggest set you can see. drop down the face of the wave and spot the lip in front of you.. charge at that lip as hard as you can just as its starting to break. then SMACK the absolute crap out of it busting your fins clear out of the back of the wave and sending buckets of spray for all your mates to see.. Then drop back down the face standing hard on your back foot to wash of speed as you stall into a sweet shack.. pull your bar in a little to gain speed and HOOT loud as you come riding out of the pit.. Then spot the fuller part of the lip and charge at it with as much speed as you can. jump as hard as you can on your back foot and heels sending yourself into a board stopping arm burying snap cutback. quickly bring your board back round so you ride back through your own spray then grab some more speed and aim for the closeout section of the wave.. here the options are endless but i think you will enjoy a good old fashion floater.. anyway good luck with that
howea
howea
NSW
40 posts
NSW, 40 posts
27 Dec 2009 11:09am
Yeah, already tried that Milko but when my fins bust the lip on the first turn I go into a full rotation and land backwards on the face of the wave, that usually helps me to stall for the pit, so when the foamball gets under my board I switch back. Oh, hang on a minute, thats when I'm dreaming, I'm actually after some advise about kiting?

Thanks heaps for the info Andy, I think I understand what your talking about; moving the kite from one tack to the next quickly and following its flight with your board, keeping the lines tight and keeping speed. makes sense to me. I actually just came in from a sesh and caught a couple, but I'm not smashing lips quite yet, I bought a RRD Toxic Wave so it might make it a bit eaiser in the surf. Thanks again mate.
Jfree10
Jfree10
NSW
30 posts
NSW, 30 posts
10 Feb 2010 1:39pm
Same as you I`m a surfer moved to kiting, trust me man it gets better! Firstly with good side or side/on wind practice turning against the kite ie keep the kite where it is and just carve the other way, then carve back again. The kite will kind of follow you as you do this but you may need to give it a little tweak up just before you start so that when you turn back it is just floating down into power. This can be done a fair way down the line before you turn the kite to head back out for another one. If you time the drop of the kite just nice it can give you a nice shot of power just as you get vertical. When it comes to turning the kite on waves it all seems to be timing for me. By this i mean that I drop down the face, turn the kite for my bottom turn, then start the turn. At the same time I have already started to turn the kite for the top turn. This does get tiring as you are doing one thing but at the same time have started to do someting that is already setting up the next thing you are going to do. Hope this helps as this seems to work for me!
AlexBertram
AlexBertram
WA
20 posts
WA, 20 posts
10 Feb 2010 4:23pm
Hey - all good advice from the other guys so-far.

Three key's I've found to stop the kite from stalling;
- turn the kite just before you turn the board
- keep the kite as low as you're able, and try and keep it moving a little when you're on the wave
- use your board to keep tension in the lines - when coming onto the face lean hard against it, and when turning the kite to do a cutback etc work the board against the kite after you've turned

My 2 cents - also ride with and watch good wave kiters.
AquaPlow
AquaPlow
QLD
1066 posts
QLD, 1066 posts
11 Feb 2010 6:24pm
Howea
Not sure if this is relevant still but there are 3+ articles on wave riding tips by Ben Wilson - on this forum - check it out...


laurie
laurie
NSW
3902 posts
NSW, 3902 posts
12 Feb 2010 2:51pm


I looooooove kiting in waves. Envious of you guys who surfed first, then kited - other way around for me.

Those days when the kite pull is balanced are awesome. The days when you have the right gear and you truly "surf" the wave, and the kite just floats without needing any adjustment are brilliant.

On the other days though, yeah - I do stuff like fiddle with the trim strap when I enter the break to depower it, or if not powered up enough, do down loops, or some days, you just do have to keep working the kite to keep it in the air.

Those kitesurfing wave articles by Ben Wilson are here:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Summary.aspx
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