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phx
phx
SA
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phx phx
SA, 20 posts
18 Dec 2009 11:15pm
So went out for my third session, first time out without instruction - as I left it was just about getting up on the board, needed more practice at this. I was 65kg, 15kts, 10m switchy.

Thought I might document my stuffups - get some feedback from people with more experience, and maybe be useful for other noobs ;)

So after a few lame powerstrokes to get up, I went for a deeper one and slammed the kite into the water and popped one of the single point inflation hoses - leading edge starts going flat.

How do I deal with this? Steer better? Glue the damn things on?

End up with a half powered up kite, that wont fly directly downwind. Pull QR1 (on cabs this detaches the kite, except the landing line). Landing line is still connected to chicken loop.

Hear velcro noise. QR2 pulls itself open. Glad its light winds. Swim after expensive bar and kite, catch it. Yay.

Lesson learned here - check the bloody QR2 on cabs from the factory. Its a pin-folding-over-ring arrangement, with the pin velcroed down. When I put it back together the ring was visible at the top of the pin. From factory seems like the ring is left halfway down the pin, giving it leverage to rip the QR open :S

So short session. :(
phx
phx
SA
20 posts
phx phx
SA, 20 posts
18 Dec 2009 11:17pm
Oh also, was quite happy I managed to selfrescue (ignoring QR2 drama) fairly cleanly. Spend a bloody hour at home sorting out and cleaning lines :(
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
18 Dec 2009 8:53pm
Its a sign - NOOB

Does the valve have velcro or elastic to hold the cap down ?

If not - ditch all your gear & give up, kiteings not for you Err I mean take it to a shop to get checked out. It should explode before it does that...

phx
phx
SA
20 posts
phx phx
SA, 20 posts
18 Dec 2009 11:43pm
Nah, the cabs have the hose-with-clamp thingo between the leading edge and struts. The hose popped off the leading edge - so the clamp didnt do anything useful.
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
19 Dec 2009 12:19am
Hang in there! Every balls up you make is part of the learning experience. After five years the initially frequent crap experiences have all but disappeared and the only thing that screws a good session up now is lack of good wind.
pynnee
pynnee
WA
164 posts
WA, 164 posts
18 Dec 2009 9:21pm
sprint system or 'SPRI' Single Point Rapid Inflation
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Dec 2009 12:22am
I heard they can pop off if crashed hard.

Have smashed mine hard many(too many) times in the last year and has never happend.

I was told you can put a cable tie around the hose where it pushes on to help clamp it on.


Either that or give up kiteing before you get adicted and work,family,relationships and life in general get pushed aside if there is even a slight chance it might blow.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
19 Dec 2009 12:18pm
phx said...

So went out for my third session, first time out without instruction - as I left it was just about getting up on the board, needed more practice at this. I was 65kg, 15kts, 10m switchy.

Thought I might document my stuffups - get some feedback from people with more experience, and maybe be useful for other noobs ;)

So after a few lame powerstrokes to get up, I went for a deeper one and slammed the kite into the water and popped one of the single point inflation hoses - leading edge starts going flat.

How do I deal with this? Steer better? Glue the damn things on?



Serious suggestion. Kites don't stear well with the bar pulled right in since both lines are tight. Let the bar out a bit for a quick controlled down-up stroke. If you're still slamming it into the water it's because your'e going straight down wind and the lines have gone slack (opposite to previous but same result-can't stear the kite).

It's just practice. If you've gone straight down wind you're board is probably too flat on the water. It's time to work on your edging.

Did I mention practice and more practice and ask a more advanced friend to watch you and give some pointers. Hope this helps.
toddws
toddws
WA
469 posts
WA, 469 posts
19 Dec 2009 9:21am
this has happened to me in 35knt onshore winds released the kite to landing line after a pulley failure.
Best bet is to connect your leash directly to the ring on your ids landing line rather than connect to the metal part of the chicken loop. To comply with euro regulations the velcro is suposed to fail under high tension (eg total facking t!ts up disaster) but shouldn't fail in light winds.
Agree with Foosh check your gear and take your time everytime!!
Loads of ops to get it right, only one to get it wrong!!
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
19 Dec 2009 12:30pm
Welcome to the forums, they're a helpful bunch aren't they. Stick with your switchy, it's an excellent kite, just get your retailer to show you how to sort the tube and reset the safety.
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
19 Dec 2009 12:43pm
hardly a fail phx. shame it was a short session though. you're likely to have worse episodes than this esspecially considering you are new and this one wasn't entirely your fault. You'll make more mistakes yet. Just keep thinking and trying and ideally go with someone else. learn quicker and safer that way.

PS a very SPECIAL merry Christmas to surfingboye. You've been missed by all.
phx
phx
SA
20 posts
phx phx
SA, 20 posts
19 Dec 2009 12:25pm
Thanks for the tips guys.
reebar
reebar
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
20 Dec 2009 7:42pm
Hi mate. I also started with the 10m SB. 15 knots is not enough to learn on that so I would get a 12m for those winds. Youäll find as a beginner you have more power to learn to go upwind, recover from stumbles etc. Thereäs no downside as long as the winds dont gust up to 25 suddenly. The newer SB's have heaps of depower.

Guys here will tell you that they are sick of seeing beginners with too mch kite up but when learning it makes things much easier and more enjoyable. As you progress you can go to the 10 and then maybe a 7 but don't try to start on a small kite ´harder for you.

just my 2 cents.

loverboy
loverboy
WA
614 posts
WA, 614 posts
21 Dec 2009 10:20am
reebar said...

Hi mate. I also started with the 10m SB. 15 knots is not enough to learn on that so I would get a 12m for those winds. Youäll find as a beginner you have more power to learn to go upwind, recover from stumbles etc. Thereäs no downside as long as the winds dont gust up to 25 suddenly. The newer SB's have heaps of depower.

Guys here will tell you that they are sick of seeing beginners with too mch kite up but when learning it makes things much easier and more enjoyable. As you progress you can go to the 10 and then maybe a 7 but don't try to start on a small kite ´harder for you.

just my 2 cents.




I live and kite the same beaches you do/will....this years switchblade 10m has enough grunt for our seabreezes and learning- it will be perfect for you. Good advice above a few posts up on "choking" the kite- if you see the wingtips start to flare out then you need to let the bar out.

Take the time to introduce yourself to a few people on the beach as well- if you say hi and have a chat they are more likely to help you out with some pointers or if you are in trouble.

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