Buying a kit

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Poppie
Poppie
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1 posts
20 Nov 2014 6:10pm
Hi there,

So i thought it would be a great idea to get my boyfriend a kit surfing kit for his christmas/birthday present but have no idea where to start.

I need advise on what kind gear is great to buy for a newbie. He has never kite surfed before but is a guy that should have been born in the ocean. He picked up water sports really quickly, has been water-skiing since he was like 10, so don't want to get him something he will outgrow in a months time.

Please help me!!!!
hargs
hargs
QLD
634 posts
QLD, 634 posts
20 Nov 2014 8:25pm
I'd start off with buying him some lessons from a good kite school/instructor. That way he can see if he likes it, he can learn to kite safely and he gets to trash the kite school/instructors gear instead of his own
nigelw2
nigelw2
VIC
237 posts
VIC, 237 posts
20 Nov 2014 10:24pm
Agree with Hargs.
Get the lessons and bank the cash for when he's hooked, then go shopping
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
20 Nov 2014 11:07pm
I bought an 11 cabrinha switchblade, watched some dvds, sought advice off a few mates, bodydragged my arse around the Broadwater and now 2-4 sessions in I'm up and riding. If he loves the water then why not, although I can guarantee he will get smashed and pose a danger to himself and others if he doesn't get the right guidance
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
21 Nov 2014 9:16am
hargs said..
I'd start off with buying him some lessons from a good kite school/instructor..


Thread finished.
kitcho207
kitcho207
NSW
865 posts
NSW, 865 posts
21 Nov 2014 10:56am
What a top partner buying kite gear.

There are strong feelings on here why lessons are important with the main reasons being;
When you see an experienced rider flying a kite it doesn't look like there is much power. This is because they know exactly where the kite is and can feel it with out looking.
now if you were to hand the kite over to a fresh noob, i guarantee they will put the kite in the wrong spot and get dragged violently down the beach. Utube kite accidents to see what I'm talking about. The main impact (other than being dragged through a carpark or street) is wiping out a bunch or kids sitting on the beach.
Lessons will help him progress faster, be safer and teach what to do when things go wrong on land and out in the water to keep him, and everyone else safe.
So get lessons for him and then look at gear after.
kitch

P.S sorry Dave, thought I would add a little more to the thread.
Shark Biscuit
Shark Biscuit
NSW
341 posts
NSW, 341 posts
21 Nov 2014 4:36pm
You're probably not aware how expensive the gear is. Unless you commonly buy your boyfriend $2000 Xmas presents.
Get him a gift voucher for some lessons, best way to start (as already been said)!
Greggor
Greggor
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
21 Nov 2014 3:51pm
Wish I had a missus that would buy me some new gear! Sounds like your boyfriend is one spoilt bloke! Get lessons first then most shops allow you to trade the cost of the lessons for a discount off the gear, sensible way to do it.
KezzaK
KezzaK
28 posts
28 posts
21 Nov 2014 6:37pm
Better yet, do lessons together! What state are you in? The crew here can recommend kite schools.

@JohnnyMack - how good are you at hitting the safety, and performing self rescue? Just curious (not accusing), did your mates teach you the safety stuff required for kiting?
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
21 Nov 2014 10:10pm
KezzaK said..
Better yet, do lessons together! What state are you in? The crew here can recommend kite schools.

@JohnnyMack - how good are you at hitting the safety, and performing self rescue? Just curious (not accusing), did your mates teach you the safety stuff required for kiting?


Hit the safety for the first time last week which worked out OK except I had lines in a birdsnest, self rescued at the same time. I should have emphasised that my mates were my version of lessons and they ran me through what you would largely get in a lesson. As a surfer and who has mates that are proficient I cringe at the prices of lessons. I understand why forums stress the importance of lessons but at the same time if you watch those progressive DVDs, listen to your mates, respect others and the sport then why not just give it a crack.
Ken10
Ken10
QLD
20 posts
QLD, 20 posts
22 Nov 2014 3:37am
JohnnyMack said..


KezzaK said..
Better yet, do lessons together! What state are you in? The crew here can recommend kite schools.

@JohnnyMack - how good are you at hitting the safety, and performing self rescue? Just curious (not accusing), did your mates teach you the safety stuff required for kiting?




Hit the safety for the first time last week which worked out OK except I had lines in a birdsnest, self rescued at the same time. I should have emphasised that my mates were my version of lessons and they ran me through what you would largely get in a lesson. As a surfer and who has mates that are proficient I cringe at the prices of lessons. I understand why forums stress the importance of lessons but at the same time if you watch those progressive DVDs, listen to your mates, respect others and the sport then why not just give it a crack.



Please don't pull the safety ever again. It took me 1.5hours to untangle your lines XD

jokes jokes jokes... but really ....
CodeRed
CodeRed
NSW
58 posts
NSW, 58 posts
27 Nov 2014 8:14pm
Here here Poppie, seabreeze GF of the year is close to your's!

some good lesson + kite & board packages are on ebay.
you can go to your local shop or look up gumtree kite lessons in your area too.

keep up the good show

fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
27 Nov 2014 9:38pm
Bout to get smashed here...

Get lessons from a QUALIFIED instructor is like a broken record on this forum...

Yet most people, if not all learnt how to drive a car ( yes a car ) from unqualified people eg mum and dad.

Bet if you asked majority on here face to face they would say they were self taught.

Kite lessons are expensive and may not be a 1 on 1 lesson. $100/lesson on average.

No one can kite in 5 hrs or possibly be confident with all aspects of self rescue,self launch / land etc.

at what stage do you stop lessons and have a go with a mate?

Just sayin...


EDIT..to borrow a useful answer from CBULOTA on a different thread
IKO affiliated schools should always have cards and are only allowed to hire IKO instructors. IKO schools should automatically give you that card at the end of the course. Even if the school isn't affiliated with IKO, the instructor might still be IKO certified and have his own cards, so you can request it directly from your instructor. The IKO is using the card system as a way to encourage instructors to ''log'' their students, for which they have to pay! It's essentially another way for the IKO to make money, and the cards aren't cheap either... I've had many students over the last few years handing me an IKO card stating that they were ''ready for the board'' and they couldn't do half of the basic skills that were ticked off by the instructor himself! That card is a joke.







pattiecannon
pattiecannon
QLD
593 posts
QLD, 593 posts
28 Nov 2014 12:08am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^$100 lesson's, m8 you've been hanging out with noodle eating backpacker's too long. How much of a **** will they give when they are gone next week? They'll give you a giant lesson of "Whatev's" an' "Cya buddy"
It's $250 for 3hrs + a bit. An' yep, it's worth it. 2-3 lesson's, you're done. You get a discount off new gear or you get help finding 2nd hand.
You get to hang with the instructor at the spot he's been at for year's and become part of his crew or one close by to it, meaning you're in good company for the long run.

I've seen "m8's lesson's" and they are alway's hilarious. No-one I know learned driving without a school.
In the great word's of the one and only Mr T, "If you don't stay at school, you be the fool!"
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
28 Nov 2014 12:38pm
Hahahahah 3 hrs and your done. That's the mentality I am talking about. What are you possibly going to learn in 3 hrs ?????
pattiecannon
pattiecannon
QLD
593 posts
QLD, 593 posts
29 Nov 2014 12:49pm
fingerbone said..
Hahahahah 3 hrs and your done. That's the mentality I am talking about. What are you possibly going to learn in 3 hrs ?????





a lot more than in 20 - 30hrs on your own or with a m8.
You learn to practice what works, not what doesn't
Do your mates teach self launching & landing, self rescue, water relaunch, kite setting's & de power, body dragging, up & downwind, water starts & kite flying with the board on.
Try packing that into 3 - 4 hrs buddy
skywalker3d
skywalker3d
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
29 Nov 2014 2:52pm
Do your mates teach self launching & landing, self rescue, water relaunch, kite setting's & de power, body dragging, up & downwind, water starts & kite flying with the board on.

I do.
Jim621
Jim621
WA
47 posts
WA, 47 posts
29 Nov 2014 12:18pm
Suggest buying him a lesson, and possibly the beginner copy of 'Progressions kitesurfing DVD'.

buying him a group lesson (2 to 3 participants and 1 instructor) can be a good introduction for him to learn, and watch others learn to see their mistakes.
Maybe suggest to buy 2 tickets - one for him and one for yourself?
surpher
surpher
VIC
81 posts
VIC, 81 posts
29 Nov 2014 10:25pm
Jim621 said..
buying him a group lesson (2 to 3 participants and 1 instructor) can be a good introduction for him to learn, and watch others learn to see their mistakes.


That would be really good. Watching others and learn from their mistakes would make a lot more sense if lessons would be video recorded and then analysed. I haven't done lessons, my girlfriend did. In a group. She walked away from a 5 day course (if I recall it was a 15h IKO ran course) extremely disappointed!!! She couldn't ride. Noone in that group was able to get up and ride. Anyway, I don't think they did the "what you/they did wrong" in that course at all.

If at all possible get 1 on 1 lessons and don't stand there watching your instructor take the kite off ya and go for a little joy ride pretending it's easier to kite upwind compared to walking upwind on the beach. As a beginner, you can learn a few things too from that walk. I've seen quite a few people stand there on the beach looking around not knowing what to do when their instructor rode off making it look effortless. Not really a motivating situation, is it?
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
30 Nov 2014 6:28pm
skywalker3d said..
Do your mates teach self launching & landing, self rescue, water relaunch, kite setting's & de power, body dragging, up & downwind, water starts & kite flying with the board on.

I do.


Yea mine did too.....

3hr lesson ends in body dragging...if your lucky...
kitcho207
kitcho207
NSW
865 posts
NSW, 865 posts
1 Dec 2014 11:16pm
What happened to poppie the original poster?
We don't even know if she is reading all this info.
Are you still there.... Lol
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
1 Dec 2014 9:31pm
Haha she probably just thought it sounds all too complicated and bought her boyfriend a watch instead
skywalker3d
skywalker3d
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
2 Dec 2014 9:13am
JohnnyMack said..
Haha she probably just thought it sounds all too complicated and bought her boyfriend a watch instead


Maybe a Garmin watch so he can see how fast he goes like all the pole dancers LOL
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